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Hyrule19209 Posts
On July 15 2011 03:45 Malyce wrote:
I think there's something profoundly broken around the gaming society for girls to be treated the way they are. And I'm saying this as a guy.
Look at the options you have as a girl:
1) Hide the fact that you're a girl. This is just sick. Why would somebody have to hide who they friggen are to not get harassed? Because internet people are crazy? Seriously, people on the internet are the same as those on the street, just hiding under anonimity, thinking it's alright to troll on a girl they'd never approach in real life. It creats a bias in the gaming community. I never want to hide that I'm a dude, never want to hide that I'm Swiss, nor that I like pizza. So why would a girl have to hide her sex? That's just ridiculous.
2) Not hide the fact you're a girl, which leads to:
a - people thinking you're just plain stupid, good image for esports there
b - people thinking you're weak, good thing we still live on the 1800s! oh wait...I can only imagine how much of a pain it is when you just want to be yourself and every other day you get chevalresque treatement because your fragile little self must be preserved and protected.
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c - people getting a crush on you, seriously, when did gaming become a meat market? I'm very attractive, why don't I ever get asked out? Because I'm a dude and it seems that girls and homosexuals aren't as delusionnal as your average guy. Some of these crushes may be legitimate sure, but I'm quite sure the emo factor has a huge role to play.
d - people who just don't care, or at the very least don't treat you any differently than they would a girl IRL (for those who know what that means). I don't know if this is a majority of guys or not, but it definitely isn't enough.
Wanna respect women in esports? Easy, here's some basic advice:
- Don't go on about how good looking or not they are in every other thread. If you want to do that join a modeling forum (or a pr0n one if you're that desperate).
- Don't give them special treatement, they're gamers and human beings just like us (a revolutionnary discovery, I know!)
- Don't get your hopes up, there is a right place and a right time for everything, and SC2 isn't a dating site.
- For everything else treat her the way you would treat a normal human being.
I'm saying negate completely the fact that there are women and go on making crude and derogatory humour (I don't have the energy to fight that anyhow), just be civilised.
Look at the options you have as a guy:
1) Hide the fact that you're a guy. Then you're bashed for being a fag and told you're awful and you should die etc
2) Don't hide the fact that you're a guy. Then you're bashed for being a fag and told you're awful and you should die etc
The internet is a cold, dark place, especially in regards to gaming. There are a few places where people are generally nice, or at least aren't 12 year olds hopped up on hormones (most of TL).
What the fuck do you expect?
Anyway, there's more assholes and idiots than kind and smart people, real world or otherwise. The internet just makes the assholes and idiots more bold and outspoken.
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On July 15 2011 03:54 tofucake wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2011 03:45 Malyce wrote:
I think there's something profoundly broken around the gaming society for girls to be treated the way they are. And I'm saying this as a guy.
Look at the options you have as a girl:
1) Hide the fact that you're a girl. This is just sick. Why would somebody have to hide who they friggen are to not get harassed? Because internet people are crazy? Seriously, people on the internet are the same as those on the street, just hiding under anonimity, thinking it's alright to troll on a girl they'd never approach in real life. It creats a bias in the gaming community. I never want to hide that I'm a dude, never want to hide that I'm Swiss, nor that I like pizza. So why would a girl have to hide her sex? That's just ridiculous.
2) Not hide the fact you're a girl, which leads to:
a - people thinking you're just plain stupid, good image for esports there
b - people thinking you're weak, good thing we still live on the 1800s! oh wait...I can only imagine how much of a pain it is when you just want to be yourself and every other day you get chevalresque treatement because your fragile little self must be preserved and protected.
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c - people getting a crush on you, seriously, when did gaming become a meat market? I'm very attractive, why don't I ever get asked out? Because I'm a dude and it seems that girls and homosexuals aren't as delusionnal as your average guy. Some of these crushes may be legitimate sure, but I'm quite sure the emo factor has a huge role to play.
d - people who just don't care, or at the very least don't treat you any differently than they would a girl IRL (for those who know what that means). I don't know if this is a majority of guys or not, but it definitely isn't enough.
Wanna respect women in esports? Easy, here's some basic advice:
- Don't go on about how good looking or not they are in every other thread. If you want to do that join a modeling forum (or a pr0n one if you're that desperate).
- Don't give them special treatement, they're gamers and human beings just like us (a revolutionnary discovery, I know!)
- Don't get your hopes up, there is a right place and a right time for everything, and SC2 isn't a dating site.
- For everything else treat her the way you would treat a normal human being.
I'm saying negate completely the fact that there are women and go on making crude and derogatory humour (I don't have the energy to fight that anyhow), just be civilised. Look at the options you have as a guy: 1) Hide the fact that you're a guy. Then you're bashed for being a fag and told you're awful and you should die etc 2) Don't hide the fact that you're a guy. Then you're bashed for being a fag and told you're awful and you should die etc The internet is a cold, dark place, especially in regards to gaming. There are a few places where people are generally nice, or at least aren't 12 year olds hopped up on hormones (most of TL). What the fuck do you expect?
When you're a dude you're judged on your skill, whe a girl on your looks.
It's cliché but just look at the thread on SlayerS_Eve. Then look at any thread of any korean dude joining a new progaming team.
Spot any difference?
Also I know a lot of people who are perfectly civilised IRL but become douchebags on the net. It's the wonders of anonimity. Possibly nothing can be done, however it's always the same, each person's mind you change is already a step forward for esports.
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On July 15 2011 03:45 Metal[x] wrote:
completely unrelated note: how do you see all the blogs star ratings? o_O
Go to the top menubar over forums -> blogs.
i learned this today in the ask TL staff anything! (:
+ Show Spoiler +riku is currently competing for last place with 57corvet
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Her "name" is Rikukitty (RikkuKitty?) and she does alot of attention-whoring on forums and other sites.
LOL this was in one of the links you posted. So true.
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On July 15 2011 03:33 avilo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2011 02:56 Riku wrote:On July 15 2011 02:53 Whole wrote:On July 15 2011 02:44 n.DieJokes wrote:Frankly I just don't believe that, one you've posted other cosplay pictures which are far less racy and two I think you just wanted to be the center of attention. The bottoms are indeed "skimpy", skimpy enough to elicit comments from the majority of tl who simply don't care about your costume or costume making in general. Now that wouldn't be a very fair statement if that was all the evidence I had, thankfully everything you do here screams pay attention to me. You write blogs everyday which are almost always just about you and almost never about starcraft or the community. You mention in basically every one of these blogs that you're a "gamer girl" and then indulge every single comment about it like you feed on it for nutrients. You constantly refer to yourself in the third person, your posts outside of your blog are also about you. I mean Christ, look at your quote and you expect us to believe you don't intentionally bring all this attention on yourself. With that off my chest.... Why do you expect everything you put out on the internet to be well received? You're not so great (and because everything you post is about you, your content) that everything you touch turns to gold. I've put out plenty of crap on this website and had it get rightfully shit on, the difference is I didn't look back and say gosh, people are giving me such a hard time because I'm X (in your case female). You remind me of frodac, in case your unfamiliar he's a male who also blogs (blogged?) about himself everyday and was likewise ill received. Only you're more obnoxious (sorry frodac, I actually don't mind your blogs and you seem to have some real issues with your parents that I don't want to discredit) because you seem to think your entitled to the love and respect of the community even though you give it nothing worthwhile. On July 15 2011 01:08 Riku wrote:
Of course, there are two types of "non-haters" you run into as a female; the crazy ones and the nice ones
This is totally unfair and insulting to basically the entire community. I doubt smix or NeverGG or lilsusie feel this way but then again they don't post only about themselves. What do you expect your fans to enjoy? There's only you, of course they like you there's nothing else. sigh, I don't want to be an asshole (which I sure I've already come across as), I don't even want you to stop making blogs. I just want you to understand how two faced you can be perceived. If you want to talk about you, that's fine and I'll keep ignoring it but don't whine that because your female you're being victimized I was going to post something like this, but you basically ninja'd me. I have to agree, especially with the bold part. Also, making blogs about being a girl on the internet doesn't really help solve the problem of girls being singled out of a gaming community. It really just worsens it, and if you want to stop being singled out as a girl, I would suggest being more subtle about being a girl and only bring it up if relevant. Because it kind of seems like you parade on the fact that you're a female. "Oh, that problem goes away if you avoid it and ignore it." I'm sorry, that's now how I like to approach problems.
I have written many, many, many blogs that have no mention of myself nor the fact I female nor anything about females. As for me writing gaming blogs calling attention to being a "gamer girl" (I shudder at that term), that is pretty ridiculous: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=227707http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=228066http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=229409http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=217301http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=231011Not a single one of those gaming blogs mentions my gender. Interesting that in sirjolt's blog your second post...immediately about yourself... Also, did you realize the irony of your statement, that you are calling attention to yourself, and then immediately two lines below that you link to 5 of your previous blogs... yeah...  Show nested quote +On July 14 2011 01:06 Riku wrote:![[image loading]](http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o4/GinRyuChan/blog.png) I've just come to the realization that the majority of TL people hate me. :/ For all of the callous I've built up against trolling and haters, I'm actually oddly hurt and depressed... As this man in sirjolt's thread said so succinctly: Show nested quote +On July 14 2011 01:19 kakaman wrote:On July 14 2011 01:06 Riku wrote:I've just come to the realization that the majority of TL people hate me. :/ For all of the callous I've built up against trolling and haters, I'm actually oddly hurt and depressed... Stop thread hijacking and attention whoring, it's so damn pathetic No one hates you, stop attention whoring. It's true everyone is guilty of this at some point or another, it's just that you are guilty of it at every point. This very blog and you fit all the stereotypical "i'm a girl on the internet" posts/attention whor3ing since the internets began. Hell, you even saved everyone the trouble and flat out named this blog essentially "i'm a girl." So...you are a girl...congratulations.
I'm not going to repeat myself multiple times. I explained that post in that thread, go look at my explanation. Also, I was actually emotional and hurt at the time, which is why I made a post I probably shouldn't have.
On July 15 2011 03:44 Mortality wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2011 02:27 Riku wrote:On July 15 2011 02:20 Mortality wrote:
I'm surprised that you would feel sick to your stomach about comments people made over the internet when you were willing to wear such a, ehem, provocative outfit. Especially when said comments come from places like Something Awful. This is why guys don't understand girls. They also came from places like MMO-Champion. Alexstrasza was my favorite character of WotLK, should I really not cosplay her because she's wearing bikini bottoms? Admittedly, I thought my costume would fit a little differently, but I wasn't going to throw away three months of work because of it. According to the other person I'm quoting you're an engineer. Didn't you, ya know, take measurements? Try on the bottoms before making the final cut? I'll be blunt: your slit is barely covered girl. An engineer cannot afford to go off half-cocked. That's how screw-ups happen. Show nested quote +On July 15 2011 02:27 Gummy wrote:On July 15 2011 02:20 Mortality wrote:
I'm surprised that you would feel sick to your stomach about comments people made over the internet when you were willing to wear such a, ehem, provocative outfit. Especially when said comments come from places like Something Awful. This is why guys don't understand girls. So imagine that you are an reasonably attractive engineering student who spent a lot of time crafting a cool costume (and probably spent a bit of time in the gym making sure your fat ass could do the costume justice). Imagine you got to showcase your effort in the perfect cosplay venue and that you are legitimately proud of what you have produced. Now imagine people calling you a slut or all kinds of unsavory things on the internet for putting due effort into your hobby. This is not hard to understand at all. If you expect people not to comment on skin you show -- particularly if you show so much of it -- you are delusional. If I made a Borat costume I'd expect that people would comment on it. Which is exactly why you'll never catch me wearing a Borat costume. If you can't stomach the reaction you're going to get for doing something, why do you do it? This is why so many people in this thread are accusing Riku of being an attention whore who only wants praise and looks down on others. She made an ultra skimpy costume. She wore it. And some perceive that she wanted to be lavished with praise and couldn't stand the heat when she wasn't. I personally don't know -- or care -- what she was thinking, but you don't wear that kind of outfit if you can't take the heat. Edit: just for the record, my opinion, I think she looks good, but it does look a bit slutty.
I made sure my fucking bottoms were WIDER THAN ANY SWIMSUIT I OWN. I went and MADE SURE OF THIS. When I "tried" it out before gluing it, everything seemed to work out perfectly. However, I was unware of how the material would act when not being held down by hands. It bulged out and the bottom kept slipping down in the front and up in the back.
Actually, the bottoms were so fucking wide that my thighs got seriously chaffed from them digging into me. The whole claim that the bottoms were too small is really bullshit and I wish people would shut up about it. They are two reasons it looks skimpy. One is because the material wouldn't lay flat against my skin as fabrics do, shame on me for not considering this. And two, because it is cut so you can see that little line that stretches from the crotch to your hips. However, this is EXACTLY how Alexstrasza's costume was. I am very, very, very much for sticking to the original costume and one of my main complaints about other Alexstrasza cosplay is how they completely bullshitted the bottoms. Sure, they don't have to worry about idiots raging about them showing too much skin, but it isn't true to the character and, thus, is poor cosplay.
Also, since I put on a fucking Alexstrasza costume, I hope people would comment on ALEXSTRASZA. Like "man, she's an awesome character" or "did you hear her voice actor for Cata? She sounds like an old woman!" I didn't want to be lavished with fucking praise, I wanted to celebrate my favorite character from my favorite MMO at the convention for the company and the game itself.
I didn't wear it to a fucking talent show, I didn't wear it to a fashion show, I didn't wear it ANYWHERE ELSE EVER except at Blizzcon.
I can take the heat, but I can't stand people being absolute asshats and idiots.
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On July 15 2011 03:45 Riku wrote:
And you did read that I was also leading the raid, pretty much set on gear (more so than much of the group and they had personally asked me to come tank for them), and that I didn't ask for it nor demand it? Actually, I didn't even tell them I was female, but I don't really care to bother with a voice-changer on vent, and I was leading the raid, so I had to talk.
"The group told the person, "You should let Riku have that cloak, she really deserves it." They knew I was female, someone else had legitimately won the loot, but the group convinced that person to give it to me"
Nah, but I don't plan on nitpicking here all day long, since you perfectly described yourself in your OP post. You don't need to explain anything.
As Avilo said, just be an average gamer, or if you got something worthwhile to contribute, then contribute.
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On July 15 2011 03:59 Dance. wrote:Show nested quote +Her "name" is Rikukitty (RikkuKitty?) and she does alot of attention-whoring on forums and other sites. LOL this was in one of the links you posted. So true.
So a dude looking for attention is a troll, and a girl is a whore?
Smooth.
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Riku, this was a very good blog post. Something happened to you, you were upset about it, and it's a problem in the internet that deserves to be pointed out. It was not a bad post by any stretch of the imagination, and I totally agree that sexism on the internet is quite rampant.
Unfortunately, it comes with the territory (much like homophobia) of a community that has a high proportion of immature male nerds.
On July 15 2011 01:33 Kurr wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Well, being a girl on the internet is only harder if you make it so.
From my experience, the majority of girls that have problem with their gender in online games love to proclaim that they are girls and always crave the attention.
For example : I was in an alliance in Guild Wars with a woman that would flirt with literally every guy in the alliance, would say "Spank you" instead of "Thank you" when people donated faction and the horny 15 year olds loved it (seriously, it happened 100 times per day and it was always followed by the most awkward conversations I've ever had to see). I left pretty quickly.
On the other hand, I had a guild leader that for like 3 months I didn't even know was a girl and she was never treated any differently. Why? Because she had normal conversations and didn't flaunt herself. Just another player.
The large majority of women I've meet in games tend to be more like the former (although maybe not as extreme). Why? Because those that aren't craving attention, I either don't notice they're women or I notice later and it's like "Ok, want to go kill shit now or what?"
Sorry but if you're dating guild leaders, you're out there for attention and as a player it's annoying as fuck. "Oh look, some random new player, happens to be a girl and now is in the top of the guild because the guild leader is a desperate horny fuck and she's flirting with him. Yay." Of course people hate that shit. And from my experience these people always need to flirt in guild chat or alliance chat instead of PMs. Most annoying part of any online game is dealing with that 1 or 2 attention seeker in every alliance. I have left dozens of guilds because of these people. They ruin my gaming experience with no exception.
Yes it's unfair that if you say you're a women some nerds will jump all over you, but at the same time, you're playing an online game; there's no need to reveal your personal information to random people. Letting everyone know you're a girl won't make killing things more fun. If no one asks, don't say you're a girl. If someone does ask, say you are. If they make a big deal out of it put them on ignore and call them out for being lame fucks.
You join the vent server and people are like "wtf you're a girl?". Go "get over it, I just want to play the game as well".
Not complicated. As I said, the only ones with problems are those that seek the attention because they want to feel special.
Lol wtf at this viewpoint. Because it's not like guys ever flaunt their "maleness" on the internet. </sarcasm> (Check out the 25 girl blogs that have probably been posted in the last 2 weeks for an example.)
Lol, seriously, telling someone you're a girl isn't like telling them that you have a drug habit, or even like telling them that you're homosexual (to which your argument has a striking parallel with the DADT debate). Being a male or a female is one of the most basic and first things that someone usually learns about you when you meet them, at least irl. So your assertion that girls should fly under the radar and keep their gender a secret is quite ridiculous.
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United States22883 Posts
On July 15 2011 03:54 tofucake wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2011 03:45 Malyce wrote:
I think there's something profoundly broken around the gaming society for girls to be treated the way they are. And I'm saying this as a guy.
Look at the options you have as a girl:
1) Hide the fact that you're a girl. This is just sick. Why would somebody have to hide who they friggen are to not get harassed? Because internet people are crazy? Seriously, people on the internet are the same as those on the street, just hiding under anonimity, thinking it's alright to troll on a girl they'd never approach in real life. It creats a bias in the gaming community. I never want to hide that I'm a dude, never want to hide that I'm Swiss, nor that I like pizza. So why would a girl have to hide her sex? That's just ridiculous.
2) Not hide the fact you're a girl, which leads to:
a - people thinking you're just plain stupid, good image for esports there
b - people thinking you're weak, good thing we still live on the 1800s! oh wait...I can only imagine how much of a pain it is when you just want to be yourself and every other day you get chevalresque treatement because your fragile little self must be preserved and protected.
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c - people getting a crush on you, seriously, when did gaming become a meat market? I'm very attractive, why don't I ever get asked out? Because I'm a dude and it seems that girls and homosexuals aren't as delusionnal as your average guy. Some of these crushes may be legitimate sure, but I'm quite sure the emo factor has a huge role to play.
d - people who just don't care, or at the very least don't treat you any differently than they would a girl IRL (for those who know what that means). I don't know if this is a majority of guys or not, but it definitely isn't enough.
Wanna respect women in esports? Easy, here's some basic advice:
- Don't go on about how good looking or not they are in every other thread. If you want to do that join a modeling forum (or a pr0n one if you're that desperate).
- Don't give them special treatement, they're gamers and human beings just like us (a revolutionnary discovery, I know!)
- Don't get your hopes up, there is a right place and a right time for everything, and SC2 isn't a dating site.
- For everything else treat her the way you would treat a normal human being.
I'm saying negate completely the fact that there are women and go on making crude and derogatory humour (I don't have the energy to fight that anyhow), just be civilised. Look at the options you have as a guy: 1) Hide the fact that you're a guy. Then you're bashed for being a fag and told you're awful and you should die etc 2) Don't hide the fact that you're a guy. Then you're bashed for being a fag and told you're awful and you should die etc The internet is a cold, dark place, especially in regards to gaming. There are a few places where people are generally nice, or at least aren't 12 year olds hopped up on hormones (most of TL). What the fuck do you expect? Anyway, there's more assholes and idiots than kind and smart people, real world or otherwise. The internet just makes the assholes and idiots more bold and outspoken.
What? Being one of the bros is the shit. Not only can I act like a tool and get commended for it but if I want to, I can even PRETEND TO BE A GIRL and get hi5s for it.
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I think people hate on you for being a vocal girl-gamer because you're disobeying your secret orders. You see, the internet is actually 70% female to 30% male, and the agency behind the cover-up wants the public to stick with the widely-held belief of 5/95 f/m, and you're not part of the designated 5%, therefore, they send specific people after you to try and make you hide yourself, because removing you would cause too much of a stir.
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On July 15 2011 04:02 Malyce wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2011 03:59 Dance. wrote:Her "name" is Rikukitty (RikkuKitty?) and she does alot of attention-whoring on forums and other sites. LOL this was in one of the links you posted. So true. So a dude looking for attention is a troll, and a girl is a whore? Smooth.
Who the hell is looking for attention? I'm certainly not interested in yours. If I want attention, maybe I should blog about it.
Do you even know what a troll is?
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On July 15 2011 04:07 Dance. wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2011 04:02 Malyce wrote:On July 15 2011 03:59 Dance. wrote:Her "name" is Rikukitty (RikkuKitty?) and she does alot of attention-whoring on forums and other sites. LOL this was in one of the links you posted. So true. So a dude looking for attention is a troll, and a girl is a whore? Smooth. Who the hell is looking for attention? I'm certainly not interested in yours. If I want attention, maybe I should blog about it.
Tons of people are looking for attention. Look at all the trolls, the bloggers, the casters, the streamers, etc.
In any case this isn't remotely related to the point I was making
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You're actually a hero, congrats for telling it how it is. Maybe this will pave way to make a TL a little bit more female-friendly. If not oh well, you are trying. Plus this is your blog, even if it doesn't you still get benefit, and so do the true people that like it.
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Very cool blog to read. Thanks!
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Hyrule19209 Posts
On July 15 2011 04:03 Jibba wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2011 03:54 tofucake wrote:On July 15 2011 03:45 Malyce wrote:
I think there's something profoundly broken around the gaming society for girls to be treated the way they are. And I'm saying this as a guy.
Look at the options you have as a girl:
1) Hide the fact that you're a girl. This is just sick. Why would somebody have to hide who they friggen are to not get harassed? Because internet people are crazy? Seriously, people on the internet are the same as those on the street, just hiding under anonimity, thinking it's alright to troll on a girl they'd never approach in real life. It creats a bias in the gaming community. I never want to hide that I'm a dude, never want to hide that I'm Swiss, nor that I like pizza. So why would a girl have to hide her sex? That's just ridiculous.
2) Not hide the fact you're a girl, which leads to:
a - people thinking you're just plain stupid, good image for esports there
b - people thinking you're weak, good thing we still live on the 1800s! oh wait...I can only imagine how much of a pain it is when you just want to be yourself and every other day you get chevalresque treatement because your fragile little self must be preserved and protected.
.
c - people getting a crush on you, seriously, when did gaming become a meat market? I'm very attractive, why don't I ever get asked out? Because I'm a dude and it seems that girls and homosexuals aren't as delusionnal as your average guy. Some of these crushes may be legitimate sure, but I'm quite sure the emo factor has a huge role to play.
d - people who just don't care, or at the very least don't treat you any differently than they would a girl IRL (for those who know what that means). I don't know if this is a majority of guys or not, but it definitely isn't enough.
Wanna respect women in esports? Easy, here's some basic advice:
- Don't go on about how good looking or not they are in every other thread. If you want to do that join a modeling forum (or a pr0n one if you're that desperate).
- Don't give them special treatement, they're gamers and human beings just like us (a revolutionnary discovery, I know!)
- Don't get your hopes up, there is a right place and a right time for everything, and SC2 isn't a dating site.
- For everything else treat her the way you would treat a normal human being.
I'm saying negate completely the fact that there are women and go on making crude and derogatory humour (I don't have the energy to fight that anyhow), just be civilised. Look at the options you have as a guy: 1) Hide the fact that you're a guy. Then you're bashed for being a fag and told you're awful and you should die etc 2) Don't hide the fact that you're a guy. Then you're bashed for being a fag and told you're awful and you should die etc The internet is a cold, dark place, especially in regards to gaming. There are a few places where people are generally nice, or at least aren't 12 year olds hopped up on hormones (most of TL). What the fuck do you expect? Anyway, there's more assholes and idiots than kind and smart people, real world or otherwise. The internet just makes the assholes and idiots more bold and outspoken. What? Being one of the bros is the shit. Not only can I act like a tool and get commended for it but if I want to, I can even PRETEND TO BE A GIRL and get hi5s for it. Fuck that. I hate everyone. They are all stupid.
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On July 15 2011 04:02 valaki wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2011 03:45 Riku wrote:
And you did read that I was also leading the raid, pretty much set on gear (more so than much of the group and they had personally asked me to come tank for them), and that I didn't ask for it nor demand it? Actually, I didn't even tell them I was female, but I don't really care to bother with a voice-changer on vent, and I was leading the raid, so I had to talk.
"The group told the person, "You should let Riku have that cloak, she really deserves it." They knew I was female, someone else had legitimately won the loot, but the group convinced that person to give it to me" Nah, but I don't plan on nitpicking here all day long, since you perfectly described yourself in your OP post. You don't need to explain anything. As Avilo said, just be an average gamer, or if you got something worthwhile to contribute, then contribute.
No, please, nitpick something I already discussed. This thread is making me very fond of constantly repeating myself.
On July 15 2011 03:45 Riku wrote:
Actually, I didn't even tell them I was female, but I don't really care to bother with a voice-changer on vent, and I was leading the raid, so I had to talk.
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On July 15 2011 04:10 Malyce wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2011 04:07 Dance. wrote:On July 15 2011 04:02 Malyce wrote:On July 15 2011 03:59 Dance. wrote:Her "name" is Rikukitty (RikkuKitty?) and she does alot of attention-whoring on forums and other sites. LOL this was in one of the links you posted. So true. So a dude looking for attention is a troll, and a girl is a whore? Smooth. Who the hell is looking for attention? I'm certainly not interested in yours. If I want attention, maybe I should blog about it. Tons of people are looking for attention. Look at all the trolls, the bloggers, the casters, the streamers, etc. In any case this isn't remotely related to the point I was making
Wow...you have no point. casters and streamers contribute SC related things because....this is a SC site. Very few people come here talking about only WoW and LoL with litte-none SC related content and streams LoL posting WoW cosplay. Do you really not understand the difference, or do I have to break it down some more?
EDIT: Edited the adjective stupid when describing WoW cosplay
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An interesting post to say the least. My response turned out to be more impassioned than I'd originally wanted it to be:
First of all, that Alexstrasza costume was very well done and anyone commenting on how you looked in it completely missed the point of cosplaying. I know this and I've never cosplayed, nor have I ever been to a con. If one were to judge how you looked in that costume, I personally would have no complaints. I find it offensive when people say a girl looks too thin nowadays; it is plain and simple jealousy.
Second of all the problem with girls entering into any male-dominated realm is that the males in said realm often do not know how to deal with women in the least. Your best bet in any case is not to mention your gender until after people have gotten to know you a little bit first. It'll lessen the reactionary responses that you probably get (the "I LOVE YOU" or "I HATE YOU" responses), when you finally do reveal your gender.
The reactionary responses reflect the lack of experience of the male denizens of whatever internet realm you're in. The "I LOVE YOU" types treat any female attention or kindness as some reciprocation of their immediate attraction, and when their attentions produce no results they switch over to the "I HATE YOU" side of things. Anything you do after that point will be treated with disdain, and anything you earn will be blamed on favoritism on the part of your gender. You can't really blame their caution as this does happen a lot in the real world.
The problem too is that a lot of girls do ruin it for the rest. The ones that invoke typical female stereotypes, take the free lunch offered by desperate male members of a community/guild, immediately shout "I'm a girl!", or tout feminist bull-crap all ruin it for the rest of you. The best you can do is be yourself and be casual about your gender and hope for the best. As soon as you make a stink, or worse, buy into the female bull crap that men so despise, you're only a part of the problem. Don't forget though that the males that give girls a hard time and the ones that give girls and easy time are just as guilty of ruining the relationship between the sexes online.
The real unfortunate thing though is that you're a product of your environment. You've been on the internet for years receiving special attention for either your gender or your looks, and you can't tell me that in all this time you haven't enjoyed or taken advantage of this attention once. Whether you like it or not that attention has shaped your behaviour, and everything you do from the outset is at least partially influenced by how much attention you are aware that you are going to get.
For God's sake just look at the number of views corresponding to the title of this blog post.
This happens to girls in real life all the time. It's really sad that this is what society is. But guess what? You can't change it. The best you can do is try to be yourself and be aware enough of what you're doing to avoid becoming something that you hate. But what if you like the attention? What if you have no problem forsaking a little of your reputation to get what you want?
Then women basically start trading sex or their affection for whatever they want.
Not that I or other men capitalizing from this shift in values are complaining. It's just a sad reality that my chances of ever finding someone that I consider my equal are practically nil. I cannot trust that anyone I'm with won't be completely honest with me about their intentions, so all I can do is get the most out of someone that I can.
Anyways,
Keep being yourself Riku. You look fine and your cosplay is great.
+ Show Spoiler [Postword] +That is not really where I initially intended the discussion to go, it just went in that direction. I have a lot of respect for Riku for not taking advantage of her gender and also for sharing her experiences. But as I was writing this blog it donned on me that even she might be guilty of what I'm worried about.
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On July 15 2011 04:14 Dance. wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2011 04:10 Malyce wrote:On July 15 2011 04:07 Dance. wrote:On July 15 2011 04:02 Malyce wrote:On July 15 2011 03:59 Dance. wrote:Her "name" is Rikukitty (RikkuKitty?) and she does alot of attention-whoring on forums and other sites. LOL this was in one of the links you posted. So true. So a dude looking for attention is a troll, and a girl is a whore? Smooth. Who the hell is looking for attention? I'm certainly not interested in yours. If I want attention, maybe I should blog about it. Tons of people are looking for attention. Look at all the trolls, the bloggers, the casters, the streamers, etc. In any case this isn't remotely related to the point I was making Wow...you have no point. casters and streamers contribute SC related things because....this is a SC site. Very few people come here talking about only WoW and LoL with litte-none SC related content and streams LoL posting WoW cosplay. Do you really not understand the difference, or do I have to break it down some more? EDIT: Edited the adjective stupid when describing WoW cosplay
Really? Explain the LoL forum. Sure, there's not much talk about cosplay here, but there are plenty of other groups of people who come just for certain boards, even for only certain threads. TL is a community of people. People have different interests. We aren't going to say "you don't talk about SC fuck you", and frankly I find your attitude annoying.
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