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tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19057 Posts
July 14 2011 19:17 GMT
#121
On July 15 2011 03:56 Malyce wrote:
When you're a dude you're judged on your skill

1. Battle.net
2. XBox Live

QED you're wrong
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tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19057 Posts
July 14 2011 19:19 GMT
#122
On July 15 2011 04:14 TheGiz wrote:I have a lot of respect for Riku for not taking advantage of her gender and also for sharing her experiences.

What?

This entire blog is taking advantage of her gender.
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Dance.
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States389 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-14 19:21:24
July 14 2011 19:19 GMT
#123
On July 15 2011 04:16 tofucake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2011 04:14 Dance. wrote:
On July 15 2011 04:10 Malyce wrote:
On July 15 2011 04:07 Dance. wrote:
On July 15 2011 04:02 Malyce wrote:
On July 15 2011 03:59 Dance. wrote:
Her "name" is Rikukitty (RikkuKitty?) and she does alot of attention-whoring on forums and other sites.


LOL this was in one of the links you posted. So true.


So a dude looking for attention is a troll, and a girl is a whore?

Smooth.


Who the hell is looking for attention? I'm certainly not interested in yours. If I want attention, maybe I should blog about it.


Tons of people are looking for attention. Look at all the trolls, the bloggers, the casters, the streamers, etc.

In any case this isn't remotely related to the point I was making


Wow...you have no point. casters and streamers contribute SC related things because....this is a SC site. Very few people come here talking about only WoW and LoL with litte-none SC related content and streams LoL posting WoW cosplay. Do you really not understand the difference, or do I have to break it down some more?

EDIT: Edited the adjective stupid when describing WoW cosplay

Really? Explain the LoL forum. Sure, there's not much talk about cosplay here, but there are plenty of other groups of people who come just for certain boards, even for only certain threads. TL is a community of people. People have different interests. We aren't going to say "you don't talk about SC fuck you", and frankly I find your attitude annoying.

That's a good point. Didn't think about that. I see TL as an SC site, I find it annoying when someone constantly talks about WoW and LoL in a thread not relating. That's my attitude, I'm sure I'm not the only one.

Correction, I find it annoying when someone constantly talks about WoW and LoL showing VERY little interest in SC. Just saying you like it doesn't count.
It is what it is...
Lennon
Profile Joined February 2010
United Kingdom2275 Posts
July 14 2011 19:20 GMT
#124
This OP screams "girl on the internet syndrome". You're a woman who is talking about herself. Of course everyone will spam "attention whore". What else were you expecting?
StorkHwaiting
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3465 Posts
July 14 2011 19:20 GMT
#125
On July 15 2011 04:19 Dance. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2011 04:16 tofucake wrote:
On July 15 2011 04:14 Dance. wrote:
On July 15 2011 04:10 Malyce wrote:
On July 15 2011 04:07 Dance. wrote:
On July 15 2011 04:02 Malyce wrote:
On July 15 2011 03:59 Dance. wrote:
Her "name" is Rikukitty (RikkuKitty?) and she does alot of attention-whoring on forums and other sites.


LOL this was in one of the links you posted. So true.


So a dude looking for attention is a troll, and a girl is a whore?

Smooth.


Who the hell is looking for attention? I'm certainly not interested in yours. If I want attention, maybe I should blog about it.


Tons of people are looking for attention. Look at all the trolls, the bloggers, the casters, the streamers, etc.

In any case this isn't remotely related to the point I was making


Wow...you have no point. casters and streamers contribute SC related things because....this is a SC site. Very few people come here talking about only WoW and LoL with litte-none SC related content and streams LoL posting WoW cosplay. Do you really not understand the difference, or do I have to break it down some more?

EDIT: Edited the adjective stupid when describing WoW cosplay

Really? Explain the LoL forum. Sure, there's not much talk about cosplay here, but there are plenty of other groups of people who come just for certain boards, even for only certain threads. TL is a community of people. People have different interests. We aren't going to say "you don't talk about SC fuck you", and frankly I find your attitude annoying.

That's a good point. Didn't think about that. I see TL as an SC site, I find it annoying when someone constantly talks about WoW and LoL in a thread not relating. That's my attitude, I'm sure I'm not the only one.


Apparently some of the mods don't agree with you. I was just warned yesterday by a mod for simply asking Riku why she posted an entire blog solely talking about her WoW issues.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
July 14 2011 19:22 GMT
#126
See, I think the issue here is that you're trying to get the best of both worlds. You want the benefits of being a known female gamer without the drawbacks.

You like attention. We all do. That's been done to death here. Nothing wrong with liking attention. But if you take advantage of your minority status (attractive female in a sea of males is definitely taking advantage of being in the minority), there WILL be people who dislike it. It isn't equal footing any more when you do that.

Do I think it's absolutely moronic that benefits or drawbacks exist? Absolutely. There should be no benefit or drawback. The fact is, it does happen. Since it does, and since people are really slow about changing in ways that would make them more reasonable, you are in a position where you have to pick.

If you want the benefits of being a known female in a majority single male group, you have to have thick skin. If you put yourself in the spotlight, at the forefront, to get that attention you like (like everyone else does), you have to be able to take what's going to come your way.

I'm a male. No, I don't have to hide that. But I also don't have to say it. Here's a better example. I'm an ex-soldier. I was in the US Army. That makes a lot of people hate me without any actual reason. You know what though? They can say what they want, I'll say something back, I'll laugh about it, they might piss me off, but I'll get under their skin too. But I didn't have to tell them. It's not hiding it at all. It's leaving the irrelevant baggage at the door.

My time in the Army has NOTHING to do with SC2. Your gender has NOTHING to do with SC2. If you bring it into things to get attention, you should be ready for the consequences. In other words, if you go about being an active part of the community without referencing being a female, you'll be on equal footing for getting attention.

You throw the female thing out there, it isn't equal footing anymore, but some of the attention just got negative. That's life, even if it is stupid.
matjlav
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany2435 Posts
July 14 2011 19:22 GMT
#127
On July 15 2011 04:20 Lennon wrote:
This OP screams "girl on the internet syndrome". You're a woman who is talking about herself. Of course everyone will spam "attention whore". What else were you expecting?


ugh getting attention is the point of blogs in the first place, isn't it? seriously, the double standard here is ridiculous.
Dance.
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States389 Posts
July 14 2011 19:23 GMT
#128
On July 15 2011 04:20 StorkHwaiting wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2011 04:19 Dance. wrote:
On July 15 2011 04:16 tofucake wrote:
On July 15 2011 04:14 Dance. wrote:
On July 15 2011 04:10 Malyce wrote:
On July 15 2011 04:07 Dance. wrote:
On July 15 2011 04:02 Malyce wrote:
On July 15 2011 03:59 Dance. wrote:
Her "name" is Rikukitty (RikkuKitty?) and she does alot of attention-whoring on forums and other sites.


LOL this was in one of the links you posted. So true.


So a dude looking for attention is a troll, and a girl is a whore?

Smooth.


Who the hell is looking for attention? I'm certainly not interested in yours. If I want attention, maybe I should blog about it.


Tons of people are looking for attention. Look at all the trolls, the bloggers, the casters, the streamers, etc.

In any case this isn't remotely related to the point I was making


Wow...you have no point. casters and streamers contribute SC related things because....this is a SC site. Very few people come here talking about only WoW and LoL with litte-none SC related content and streams LoL posting WoW cosplay. Do you really not understand the difference, or do I have to break it down some more?

EDIT: Edited the adjective stupid when describing WoW cosplay

Really? Explain the LoL forum. Sure, there's not much talk about cosplay here, but there are plenty of other groups of people who come just for certain boards, even for only certain threads. TL is a community of people. People have different interests. We aren't going to say "you don't talk about SC fuck you", and frankly I find your attitude annoying.

That's a good point. Didn't think about that. I see TL as an SC site, I find it annoying when someone constantly talks about WoW and LoL in a thread not relating. That's my attitude, I'm sure I'm not the only one.


Apparently some of the mods don't agree with you. I was just warned yesterday by a mod for simply asking Riku why she posted an entire blog solely talking about her WoW issues.


Yea? And some mods like to create artificial drama in Riku's blogs even against prominent translators of the community. I didn't say everyone agreed with me, but I can't be the only one.
It is what it is...
xarthaz
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1704 Posts
July 14 2011 19:25 GMT
#129
So i heard that Riku was a girl and has a pretty good body. I think I saw a picture on here but i cant find it.
I tried googling image "Riku's body" but i couldn't find it.
I want to see pictures of her nice body, anybody have it?
Aah thats the stuff..
Backpack
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1776 Posts
July 14 2011 19:25 GMT
#130
On July 15 2011 04:19 tofucake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2011 04:14 TheGiz wrote:I have a lot of respect for Riku for not taking advantage of her gender and also for sharing her experiences.

What?

This entire blog is taking advantage of her gender.


Agreed.

If you stop drawing attention to your gender, you will stop getting shit for it.

I post negatively in some of your blogs and rate them low from time to time because I don't like them for various reasons, none of which is you being female. If you want to fit in, stop stereotyping yourself and accept the fact that there may be other reasons why people don't like you.
"You people need to just generally care a lot less about everything." -Zatic
ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-14 19:28:02
July 14 2011 19:26 GMT
#131
On July 15 2011 04:25 xarthaz wrote:
So i heard that Riku was a girl and has a pretty good body. I think I saw a picture on here but i cant find it.
I tried googling image "Riku's body" but i couldn't find it.
I want to see pictures of her nice body, anybody have it?

ROFL! i see what you did there!

EDIT: remember when blogging was good and pure
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
July 14 2011 19:26 GMT
#132
On July 15 2011 04:22 matjlav wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2011 04:20 Lennon wrote:
This OP screams "girl on the internet syndrome". You're a woman who is talking about herself. Of course everyone will spam "attention whore". What else were you expecting?


ugh getting attention is the point of blogs in the first place, isn't it? seriously, the double standard here is ridiculous.

but the manner in which you get attention is important
Treemonkeys
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2082 Posts
July 14 2011 19:26 GMT
#133
Well I'm not sure if this will encourage you or discourage you, and of course this is just IMO: But the way you are treated on the internet is not some phenomenon limited to the internet, rather it is a reflection of how our society views women in general - minus the social restrictions that normally prevent people from saying whatever the fuck is on their mind at the time. Basically the glove come off, but the mindset is the same.

That love me / hate me sign is a great way to describe it - you also wear that sign when you go to a bar, when you're at work, when you stop at the gas station, etc. Men in general have a very degraded (that is what I would consider it) view of women, and they can be really good at keeping it a secret. It's often a "guys only" time thing. Then for men who aren't like that are usually too cowardly to normally say something among their peers. That is why whenever you post a picture of yourself you will always have tons of people running wild with absurd levels of rudeness and then there will almost always be a few going way out of their way to be the white knight. I would guess women have their own version, like what you said about being on top.

When you first walk into a room, basically every single guy is going to judge how attractive or unattractive you are, and in that moment it is easily the most important thing about you. Most men will just follow through with that while few will try to ignore it. Even for me (ugh). Kind of like how you said females want to be on top, but you think it can mostly be suppressed, well it's the same way for me about this. I don't like it for some reason, so I try to suppress it, but it's still always there. It's got to be some kind of instinct.
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StorkHwaiting
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3465 Posts
July 14 2011 19:27 GMT
#134
On July 15 2011 04:23 Dance. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2011 04:20 StorkHwaiting wrote:
On July 15 2011 04:19 Dance. wrote:
On July 15 2011 04:16 tofucake wrote:
On July 15 2011 04:14 Dance. wrote:
On July 15 2011 04:10 Malyce wrote:
On July 15 2011 04:07 Dance. wrote:
On July 15 2011 04:02 Malyce wrote:
On July 15 2011 03:59 Dance. wrote:
Her "name" is Rikukitty (RikkuKitty?) and she does alot of attention-whoring on forums and other sites.


LOL this was in one of the links you posted. So true.


So a dude looking for attention is a troll, and a girl is a whore?

Smooth.


Who the hell is looking for attention? I'm certainly not interested in yours. If I want attention, maybe I should blog about it.


Tons of people are looking for attention. Look at all the trolls, the bloggers, the casters, the streamers, etc.

In any case this isn't remotely related to the point I was making


Wow...you have no point. casters and streamers contribute SC related things because....this is a SC site. Very few people come here talking about only WoW and LoL with litte-none SC related content and streams LoL posting WoW cosplay. Do you really not understand the difference, or do I have to break it down some more?

EDIT: Edited the adjective stupid when describing WoW cosplay

Really? Explain the LoL forum. Sure, there's not much talk about cosplay here, but there are plenty of other groups of people who come just for certain boards, even for only certain threads. TL is a community of people. People have different interests. We aren't going to say "you don't talk about SC fuck you", and frankly I find your attitude annoying.

That's a good point. Didn't think about that. I see TL as an SC site, I find it annoying when someone constantly talks about WoW and LoL in a thread not relating. That's my attitude, I'm sure I'm not the only one.


Apparently some of the mods don't agree with you. I was just warned yesterday by a mod for simply asking Riku why she posted an entire blog solely talking about her WoW issues.


Yea? And some mods like to create artificial drama in Riku's blogs even against prominent translators of the community. I didn't say everyone agreed with me, but I can't be the only one.


Why are you getting so defensive? Nobody cares if a few random TL people agree with you. If the modders don't agree, then nothing's going to happen.
Lennon
Profile Joined February 2010
United Kingdom2275 Posts
July 14 2011 19:29 GMT
#135
On July 15 2011 04:22 matjlav wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2011 04:20 Lennon wrote:
This OP screams "girl on the internet syndrome". You're a woman who is talking about herself. Of course everyone will spam "attention whore". What else were you expecting?


ugh getting attention is the point of blogs in the first place, isn't it? seriously, the double standard here is ridiculous.


A blog doesn't have to be focused on yourself.
Kurr
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2338 Posts
July 14 2011 19:30 GMT
#136
On July 15 2011 04:03 matjlav wrote:
Riku, this was a very good blog post. Something happened to you, you were upset about it, and it's a problem in the internet that deserves to be pointed out. It was not a bad post by any stretch of the imagination, and I totally agree that sexism on the internet is quite rampant.

Unfortunately, it comes with the territory (much like homophobia) of a community that has a high proportion of immature male nerds.

Show nested quote +
On July 15 2011 01:33 Kurr wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

Well, being a girl on the internet is only harder if you make it so.

From my experience, the majority of girls that have problem with their gender in online games love to proclaim that they are girls and always crave the attention.

For example : I was in an alliance in Guild Wars with a woman that would flirt with literally every guy in the alliance, would say "Spank you" instead of "Thank you" when people donated faction and the horny 15 year olds loved it (seriously, it happened 100 times per day and it was always followed by the most awkward conversations I've ever had to see). I left pretty quickly.

On the other hand, I had a guild leader that for like 3 months I didn't even know was a girl and she was never treated any differently. Why? Because she had normal conversations and didn't flaunt herself. Just another player.

The large majority of women I've meet in games tend to be more like the former (although maybe not as extreme). Why? Because those that aren't craving attention, I either don't notice they're women or I notice later and it's like "Ok, want to go kill shit now or what?"

Sorry but if you're dating guild leaders, you're out there for attention and as a player it's annoying as fuck. "Oh look, some random new player, happens to be a girl and now is in the top of the guild because the guild leader is a desperate horny fuck and she's flirting with him. Yay." Of course people hate that shit. And from my experience these people always need to flirt in guild chat or alliance chat instead of PMs. Most annoying part of any online game is dealing with that 1 or 2 attention seeker in every alliance. I have left dozens of guilds because of these people. They ruin my gaming experience with no exception.



Yes it's unfair that if you say you're a women some nerds will jump all over you, but at the same time, you're playing an online game; there's no need to reveal your personal information to random people. Letting everyone know you're a girl won't make killing things more fun. If no one asks, don't say you're a girl. If someone does ask, say you are. If they make a big deal out of it put them on ignore and call them out for being lame fucks.

You join the vent server and people are like "wtf you're a girl?". Go "get over it, I just want to play the game as well".

Not complicated. As I said, the only ones with problems are those that seek the attention because they want to feel special.


Lol wtf at this viewpoint. Because it's not like guys ever flaunt their "maleness" on the internet. </sarcasm> (Check out the 25 girl blogs that have probably been posted in the last 2 weeks for an example.)

Lol, seriously, telling someone you're a girl isn't like telling them that you have a drug habit, or even like telling them that you're homosexual (to which your argument has a striking parallel with the DADT debate). Being a male or a female is one of the most basic and first things that someone usually learns about you when you meet them, at least irl. So your assertion that girls should fly under the radar and keep their gender a secret is quite ridiculous.


You don't understand my point.

First, it was about online games, not the internet in general. Second, I play online games for fun, not to watch people socialize, much less flirt. I don't care if I'm playing with a guy, a woman or a horse as long as it's fun. My point is that it's pointless to start talking about your personal info and feelings in a game, because it's not a chat room. People play it to, get this, play the game.

I make it a point to learn nothing about the people I play with besides their character name, otherwise it ruins the immersion. I don't give out my real name or info ingame. Not everyone follows that and some like to socialize as well. Fine, I don't mind it.

There are annoying people in every game : young and old, guys and girls. I don't hate a person because she's a woman and I don't expect her to go out of her way to hide that fact as well (which I said in my first post). But it just happens that, in my experience, women are much more susceptible to being that annoying person that makes me leave a guild or have them on permanent ignore.

People that feel the need to flirts with guys in the game and get benefits because of their gender ruin gaming experiences. I do not enjoy playing with such people.

I don't, however, mind playing with women that simply cut the BS and play like any other person would. It's not hiding their femininity. It's just that it doesn't matter in this scenario.

Girls should fly under the radar, not because they are female, but because they are playing a game the same way as everyone else. I don't proclaim I am a man, and to people online some might even think I'm a woman. At the end of the day, gender in not important in online games.

Like I said earlier, only those that want the attention get it. You can be a known girl in an online community with 0 problem with little nerds. Sure, a few of them will try to hit on them when they learn that they're female, but a simple word to let them know you're just another player and it's over. People that become obsessed with the idea of a woman playing get banned from guilds that I'm in.

So, in conclusion : You misunderstand my point. Women don't need to hide their gender. It simply does not matter in online games. If no one asks, no need to answer about it. If someone does ask, then simply answer the truth. If they make a big deal about it, it's their own fault.
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LeoLeo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Sweden456 Posts
July 14 2011 19:30 GMT
#137
A lesson of life:

Fuck
the
haters

Some people on the internet just dont want to do you any good, not because you are ugly or stupid, just because they can. It's the internet you can do whatever you want with no major consequences. Instead of wasting attention on the haters spread happiness to those who GLHF you and mean it.

Also, no GG = no skill!
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TheGiz
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada708 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-14 19:39:44
July 14 2011 19:32 GMT
#138
On July 15 2011 04:19 tofucake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2011 04:14 TheGiz wrote:I have a lot of respect for Riku for not taking advantage of her gender and also for sharing her experiences.

What?
This entire blog is taking advantage of her gender.

I know, I edited that comment. Goddamn it though.



On July 15 2011 04:25 xarthaz wrote:
So i heard that Riku was a girl and has a pretty good body. I think I saw a picture on here but i cant find it.
I tried googling image "Riku's body" but i couldn't find it.
I want to see pictures of her nice body, anybody have it?

Search "Alexstrasza". Hell, after realizing she's just like the rest, might as well treat her that way, eh?
To paraphrase my previous marathon post: If a girl so obviously enjoys being an object and we enjoy her being the object, I guess she's an object then. No problem.
Life is not about making due with what you have; it's about finding out just how much you can achieve. Never settle for anything less than the best. - - - Read my blog!
Severedevil
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4839 Posts
July 14 2011 19:33 GMT
#139
My genitals aren't relevant to my online interactions. Are yours?
My strategy is to fork people.
nttea
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Sweden4353 Posts
July 14 2011 19:33 GMT
#140
I've sometimes been thinking how awesome it would be to be a girl on the internet, all the positive attention you would get. Then i realise you have to be tough as a fucking tank to deal with all the other shit, not to mention if you actually would be a fat girl with an attitude; which probably would have been me holy shit . good blog.
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