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How many friggin games to I have to play?

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DrLefTy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States36 Posts
July 29 2009 05:50 GMT
#1
Just curious... how many games do I have to lose before I get any good?

Almost all of the games I've won are 4pools, and trying to play standard always ends horribly. I don't feel like I'm making any progress at getting anywhere in SC.

http://www.iccup.com/starcraft/gamingprofile/dr_left.html

For reference, I was in the top 500 in Kane's Wrath and played TF2 competitively, so its not like I've never seen a computer before. Granted, I've played SC for probably two months now, but I feel like I'm not making any progress.

Any advice?

Binky1842
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States2599 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-29 05:53:34
July 29 2009 05:53 GMT
#2
"The zoo could not confirm that Binky was the attacker, but only Binky had blood on his face following the incident"
Railxp
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Hong Kong1313 Posts
July 29 2009 05:58 GMT
#3
i'm practicing with friends/practice partners and its a lot less demoralizing than always loosing on iccup. Plus you get to try stuff like "oh go 2gate vs me so i can practice my early pressure" or other specifics like that to train your weaknesses.
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Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
July 29 2009 05:58 GMT
#4
*Insert obligatory over 9000 joke*

Your stats are not that bad for 2 months actually. Gotta keep playing more I guess lol. Also, I would recommend playing Protoss(just because) or Terran(using Stylish's VODs to learn) to start out. Starting out as Zerg is probably the hardest IMHO.
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
BanZu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3329 Posts
July 29 2009 05:58 GMT
#5
1. Stop doing cheesy/all-in strats
2. Exactly 1 billion games.
Sun Tzu once said, "Defiler becomes useless at the presences of a vessel."
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
July 29 2009 06:00 GMT
#6
I've gone 3-20 on iccup in the past few days on one account. Only playing on korean hours at C+/B- though and always ask for a re after I get raped. Yeesh.

randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
July 29 2009 06:01 GMT
#7
Your stats are pretty similar to mine when I first started, so don't be too discouraged. Basically, you are going to lose a lot. Its one of the things about starcraft, the skill ceiling is so high, and the climb towards is pretty slow.
Artosis *
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States2140 Posts
July 29 2009 06:02 GMT
#8
takes about 2 years to get good at sc.
Commentatorhttp://twitter.com/Artosis
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
July 29 2009 06:09 GMT
#9
Progress in starcraft will be short periods of time of huge improvement followed by long plateaus where you don't go anywhere or even backslide.

Shit takes time, find people you enjoy playing with and have a good one.
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
ForTheSwarm
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States556 Posts
July 29 2009 06:12 GMT
#10
First, quit 4 pooling. It feels good when you win, I know, but you're doing yourself any favors by not getting comfortable with standard builds and macro.

Obviously massing games will make you better, but I would also suggest watching many many more replays. I have a feeling many people don't improve as quickly as they could (myself included) because they don't watch enough replays.

Also, by watch I mean SERIOUSLY CONCENTRATE on what exactly is going on, and what exactly the decisions and motivations for each player are at each moment.

Translation: Pause often.

GL HF!
Whenever I see a dropship, my asshole tingles, because it knows whats coming... - TheAntZ
Highways
Profile Joined July 2005
Australia6111 Posts
July 29 2009 06:13 GMT
#11
Props for not going noob Protoss.

It does take quite a long time to get decent, particularly with Zerg or Terran.

#1 Terran hater
o3.power91
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Bahrain5288 Posts
July 29 2009 06:13 GMT
#12
On July 29 2009 15:02 Artosis wrote:
takes about 2 years to get good at sc.

Not arguing or anything, but around what ICC level will 2 years of casual gaming get you to?
I've been playing casually for around a year and a half now (including a long period of "UMSing") and I just got to D+ last season
cujo2k
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada1044 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-29 06:15:48
July 29 2009 06:14 GMT
#13
Depends how good your mechanics are. If you have good mechanics, multitask, and micro, then it's just about studying starcraft outside of the game, and you can get good that way if you studied how to play well enough(This would take a lot of dedication towards studying though). If you have bad mechanics, then that's the first thing you need to fix imo. Although a lot of that takes practice, fixing your hotkeys, and macroing the right way and trying to get as high of an apm/multitask as you possibly can, without necessarily caring if you win or not :o

THE ANSWER IS 288
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24772 Posts
July 29 2009 06:14 GMT
#14
On July 29 2009 15:02 Artosis wrote:
takes about 2 years to get good at sc.

This is actually a pretty good estimate. If you keep up with it for 2 years doing melee and having a decent attitude you will definitely be getting good by then.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
DrLefTy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States36 Posts
July 29 2009 06:28 GMT
#15
Wow, thanks for the positive comments, everyone. I was expecting to be bashed for this.

especially
On July 29 2009 15:13 Highways wrote:
Props for not going noob Protoss.
It does take quite a long time to get decent, particularly with Zerg or Terran.


I appreciate that... I often wonder if I should try toss since people say its easier, but I just like the style of the swarm, so I want to get good with that.
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
July 29 2009 06:29 GMT
#16
Are you using the right BOs?
Jaedong
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8170 Posts
July 29 2009 06:30 GMT
#17
On July 29 2009 15:14 micronesia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2009 15:02 Artosis wrote:
takes about 2 years to get good at sc.

This is actually a pretty good estimate. If you keep up with it for 2 years doing melee and having a decent attitude you will definitely be getting good by then.


depends on definition of good. I would say only about 6 months to stand on your own in D levels, where you are actually doing real builds/strats and such and not just "making stuff."
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DrLefTy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States36 Posts
July 29 2009 06:33 GMT
#18
On July 29 2009 15:29 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Are you using the right BOs?


I try to execute the BOs on liquipedia, but I always botch them. Sometimes I focus on the timings so much I forget something embarassingly stupid, like to put down a pool after a 12hatch or to get the spire when the lair finishes. More often, I forget overlords, or forget to make scourge against a toss getting sairs.
Ronald_McD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada807 Posts
July 29 2009 06:56 GMT
#19
On July 29 2009 15:33 DrLefTy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2009 15:29 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Are you using the right BOs?


I try to execute the BOs on liquipedia, but I always botch them. Sometimes I focus on the timings so much I forget something embarassingly stupid, like to put down a pool after a 12hatch or to get the spire when the lair finishes. More often, I forget overlords, or forget to make scourge against a toss getting sairs.


When I was trying to get good, I found that as soon as I practiced hard to nail my build orders into my head, that I went from D- to D+ pretty fast.
Just keep practicing and it will become automatic. Getting your build order to come naturally every time is something that will get you better rather instantly
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lokiM
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3407 Posts
July 29 2009 07:07 GMT
#20
On July 29 2009 14:53 Binky1842 wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqDH5RDSvm0&fmt=

omg this was gold LOL i havent seen this shit in forever
You can't fight the feeling.
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