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paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13197 Posts
July 16 2009 12:56 GMT
#21
holy shit you won without a hero? hahahah
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Skyze
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada2324 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-16 13:03:13
July 16 2009 12:59 GMT
#22
keep in mind that levels right now are pretty useless, since the war3 ladder is filled with hacks (or it was afew months ago).

Levels only mean something right after a reset, or afew years back. Now all the best players only play on ggc and such, not on bnet really, except for that one week for the SC2 beta key tournament. maybe when the ladder resets soon there will be good players but until then, 90% of ladder is just newbs who mass game

its like if koreans/top players suddenly didnt play iccup anymore, you would have such a greater range of people, where someone could probably get B- with just mass gaming. Thats how war3 is now, since all the best players moved to other servers, the average players are on top now and the bad players are in the middle ranks, and they wouldnt mean much anymore.
Canada Gaming ~~ The-Feared
Klockan3
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Sweden2866 Posts
July 16 2009 13:09 GMT
#23
On July 16 2009 20:42 ViruX wrote:
I don't plan on playing war3 again but for curiosity sake ... how the fuck to you stop a blademaster harass, where do you get detection?

You can use wisp detonate to kill his mana making him unable to windwalk again, it also stops him from getting experience when he attacks them.

But other than that detection is a lot rarer to get in warcraft 3 than in starcraft, the normal way is to get dust of appearance. (Item you get on your hero)

Read through these to understand the basic mechanics you missed:
http://classic.battle.net/war3/basics/heroes.shtml
http://classic.battle.net/war3/basics/invisibility.shtml
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
July 16 2009 13:25 GMT
#24
Haha good job! Actually levels doesn't mean shit, I'm pretty noob and I'm like level 30 for winning team games lol
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
July 16 2009 13:36 GMT
#25
I'm curious if the second game his strategy was a complete counter or something haha
Writerptrk
Aesop
Profile Joined October 2007
Hungary11305 Posts
July 16 2009 13:45 GMT
#26
Warcraft III uses a dual level system: On the one hand, the displayed one and on the other the estimated one. The matchmaking uses the estimated level, not the actual one.

If you start off 3-0 for example, your estimated rating might be something like lv 35, so the system will pair you with players who are also estimated 35, so they might be 5,10,25 or 35. Therefore, the displayed level is firstly stating how much you play, and only secondly how good you are.
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Zurles
Profile Joined February 2009
United Kingdom1659 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-16 14:26:48
July 16 2009 14:25 GMT
#27
level 12 is terrible and winning without a hero should be impossible, it's hilarious that you beat anyone.

and there is very little you can do against the Blademaster, hence one of the retarded imbalances in the game.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13922 Posts
July 16 2009 14:45 GMT
#28
im to lazy to play wc3, no need to lose my self in that game when SC is just right here
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
~_~
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada239 Posts
July 16 2009 20:42 GMT
#29
On July 16 2009 22:36 ArvickHero wrote:
I'm curious if the second game his strategy was a complete counter or something haha


op didnt even make a hero....
the guy left because it was clearly a waste of time -_-
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
July 23 2009 19:13 GMT
#30
On July 16 2009 21:56 paper wrote:
holy shit you won without a hero? hahahah

I used to do that at low levels by going double/triple crypt and massing ghouls.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
Sigh
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2433 Posts
July 23 2009 21:13 GMT
#31
Playing without Heroes is like a form of BM if you know you rape your opponent or something'?
NaDa/Flash/Thorzain Fan
naventus
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
United States1339 Posts
July 23 2009 22:07 GMT
#32
Could probably do something similar with mass foots and tower rushing.
hmm.
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