• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 12:54
CEST 18:54
KST 01:54
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2914Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12
Community News
Weekly Cups (July 27-Aug 2): SHIN's big week0SC4ALL II: Brood War - $2500 - Dec 5-69SC4ALL II announced - $10,000 prize pool, Dec 5-64PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August)14Neeb returns to progaming; rejoins ONSYDE18
StarCraft 2
General
Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) StarCraft 2 at SC4ALL II Invite #4/8 - Percival Protoss AoE skill expression 5.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start) StarCraft 2 at SC4ALL II Invite #3/8 - Clem
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August) Tasteless Time Warp: SC Evo Showmatch (May 25) SC4ALL II announced - $10,000 prize pool, Dec 5-6
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 537 Hostile Territory Mutation # 536 Railroad Switch Mutation # 535 Assembly of Vengeance
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ The Korean Terminology Thread ASL 22 Proposed Map Pool Recent recommended BW games Making an Online Broodwar Manager Game
Tourneys
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament - Season 3 SC4ALL II: Brood War - $2500 - Dec 5-6
Strategy
Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Any training maps people recommend? Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Diablo 2 thread General RTS Discussion Thread ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live!
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
Iain M Banks Says He Has Cancer And Months To Live US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The Clem Fan Club INnoVation Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
NBA General Discussion Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
Please support my new stand…
Peanutsc
What is a Gamer?
TrAiDoS
Hello guys!
LIN1s
ASL S22 English Commentary…
namkraft
Poker (part 2)
Nebuchad
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 7714 users

Napoleon the revolutionist

Blogs > The Storyteller
Post a Reply
The Storyteller
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
Singapore2486 Posts
July 13 2009 09:48 GMT
#1
Napoleon was a "revolutionist" in every sense of the word - he supported the revolutionaries during the first French Revolution, rose to prominence defending the Republic the revolution created, brought an end to the Republic by crowning himself emperor and, what he is best known for, completely revolutionised warfare.

He macroed like iloveoov, conscripting jaw-dropping numbers of Frenchmen for his armies. He used "divide and conquer" tactics like Xellos, using a small number of troops to hold off one opponent while his main army crushed its ally. He concentrated his artillery instead of spreading it out.

Then, after beating the rest of Europe again and again and again, Napoleon made the mistake of marching on Russia in winter, overextended his supply lines and got his ass handed to him. He was forced into exile but made a comeback in 1815, reappearing in France, declaring himself emperor and gathering an army to stand against the British and the Prussians who were determined to wipe him out.

Unfortunately, like Savior in 2009, he did not live up to his promise. He lost the Battle of Waterloo and was exiled again. This time, he didn't come back.

When I look at players like Savior and Xellos who have revolutionised Starcraft in one way or another, I think of Napoleon. The man was a genius, but he still had a standard set of tactics that could be copied and countered.

Even before Napoleon's Russia campaign, the Spanish and British were countering his tactics with guerilla warfare, something that Napoleon had no answer to. The Battle of Waterloo was close, closer than previous engagements, because Wellington had taken steps to counter Napoleon's tactics. Even if Napoleon had won, it was only a matter of time before someone who could use Napoleon's tactics better than him appeared.

A lot of Starcraft "revolutionists" are like Napoleon. They appear with unbelievable strategies that make everyone scream that some units are imbalanced, but in the end, someone finds a counter, someone learns to use their strategies even more effectively, maps change, and they always end up in exile.

The difference is that Starcraft is a more forgiving sport than war. All "revolutionists" have a chance to relook their strategies and start winning again. Even if they can't win, if they have the kind of brain that can constantly formulate new strategies like iloveoov and Boxer, they still have a bright future.

Some of them can't, because they really are one trick ponies. They can't cope with the new styles of Starcraft they helped pioneer. Others don't want to. After playing for ACE they'd rather do something else.

But that's okay. After all, when you talk about Napoleon, most people think of his glorious victories and his mighty empire. Few think of him in exile on St. Helena, a broken man with only his memories to keep him company.

And that's the way it will be with revolutionists past their prime.

*****
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-13 10:01:16
July 13 2009 09:58 GMT
#2
Napoleon had some good sides but he made many bad things.

I think he was Ev- for France and for Europe tbh. He made way too many people die and he re-established slavery.
His best achievment is the civil code not all those battles.


He would be a very aggro starcraft player.

1v7 @ BGH anyone ?

edit: It makes me think that i owe an answer to Moltke lol.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
DeathSpank
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States1029 Posts
July 13 2009 10:14 GMT
#3
When I think Napoleon I think waterloo. Then I think of Napoleon's face when he realized he fucked up royally.
yes.
d3_crescentia
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4054 Posts
July 13 2009 10:18 GMT
#4
When I think Napoleon I think Austerlitz. Such a beautiful battle.
once, not long ago, there was a moon here
Atrioc
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States1866 Posts
July 13 2009 10:25 GMT
#5
when i think napoleon i think of the pig from animal farm

and i think Russia burning their own cities and retreating until the winter raped Napoleon's massive army is basically the coolest strategy ever. Truly Russia was the BoxeR of the Napoleonic Wars.
Writerman what
d3_crescentia
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4054 Posts
July 13 2009 10:38 GMT
#6
On July 13 2009 19:25 Atrioc wrote:
when i think napoleon i think of the pig from animal farm

and i think Russia burning their own cities and retreating until the winter raped Napoleon's massive army is basically the coolest strategy ever. Truly Russia was the BoxeR of the Napoleonic Wars.

Nah, if anything Russia would be a Zerg player... delay the terran ball until hive and wait for swarm/plague (read: winter) to come.
once, not long ago, there was a moon here
Vex
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Ireland454 Posts
July 13 2009 10:46 GMT
#7
When i think of napoleon i think of dynamite :O
"Bonjwa" is the most retarded word ever. Wtf does it even sound like.
EvoChamber
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France2505 Posts
July 13 2009 10:51 GMT
#8
Protoss-like nations: Germany, France, England, Japan
Terran-like nations: United States, South Korea
Zerg-like nations: Russia, China
Panda-bear-guy nation: Canada
That's not awful writing, DAMMIT. It's perfectly sensical english construction.
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6183 Posts
July 13 2009 11:49 GMT
#9
I thought this was about the best foreign player, smokealot aka napoleon.
citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-13 16:07:08
July 13 2009 16:05 GMT
#10
One of the best graphics ever created: Napoleon's troops during the Russia campaign

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/29/Minard.png

So much information in a single picture, so powerful and easy to understand. Dates & places included, the width of the bars showing size of army through time (light brown for start of campaign, black for return trip). Brilliant.
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
PSISTORM Gaming Misc
15:40
FSL s11 Code A championship
Freeedom23
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ByuN 421
LamboSC2 218
ProTech80
BRAT_OK 63
SHIN 23
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 24563
firebathero 343
actioN 310
Hyun 57
Rock 26
sSak 22
zelot 21
scan(afreeca) 19
HiyA 12
Dewaltoss 11
[ Show more ]
IntoTheRainbow 11
Dota 2
qojqva2584
Dendi977
Counter-Strike
fl0m3174
byalli653
edward23
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King140
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor184
MindelVK11
Other Games
singsing1497
FrodaN1325
B2W.Neo897
Grubby859
Hui .180
XaKoH 105
ArmadaUGS89
QueenE64
UpATreeSC26
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV182
gamesdonequick27
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 11
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• mYiSmile128
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• Michael_bg 11
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV553
League of Legends
• Jankos1555
• Shiphtur524
Upcoming Events
Ladder Legends
1h 6m
Ladder Legends
3h 6m
RSL Revival
16h 6m
OSC
20h 6m
OSC
1d 7h
WardiTV Weekly
1d 18h
The Patches Monday
1d 23h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
PiG Sty Festival
2 days
PiGosaur Cup
3 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
Kung Fu Cup
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
The PondCast
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S3: W6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
Acropolis #5
RSL Revival: Season 6
Esports World Cup 2026: LCQ
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W7
CSLAN 4
ASL Season 22
Escore Tournament S3: W8
Acropolis #5 - TRS
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Acropolis #5 - GSA
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1
Thunderpick World Champ.
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
Logitech G Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.