Is this so bad to use on battle.net? If somebody is fucking 4pooling u on bloodbath, (fucking sad anyways) and u stack scvs cuase theres no other way to defend it is like charliemurhpy says 'fucking the same as multicommand' same as maphack? Please enlighten me. I know this bug is banned, however battle.net =/= iccup/progaming, u play for fun.
After the game, he starts crying and whispering while he is (DND) and tells me im a loser and stuff.
4 pool is cheese that is part of the game. To be honest, 4 pool is not that deadly if you're a Terran and Zerg rarely has decent cheese that works against Terrans anyway compared to vice versa. Just because he 4 pool's does not make him lame, maybe he wants to practice his ling micro vs workers
How would you like it if everytime you opened up with wraiths, he has hacks that nuke your base?
I think you're the person who is wrong here. I hope rest of TL sees the same
On July 02 2009 11:07 AzureEye wrote: 4 pool is cheese that is part of the game. To be honest, 4 pool is not that deadly if you're a Terran and Zerg rarely has decent cheese that works against Terrans anyway compared to vice versa. Just because he 4 pool's does not make him lame, maybe he wants to practice his ling micro vs workers
How would you like it if everytime you opened up with wraiths, he has hacks that nuke your base?
I think you're the person who is wrong here. I hope rest of TL sees the same
4pool on a python would be easy to defend
4 pool on bloodbath which has a distance of like 3 seconds for lings is fucking lame.
Why is it sad that someone 4 pools you on bloodbath...? And well, kind of the other guys fault for not anticipating a fag that will stack scvs against him on bnet.
On July 02 2009 11:09 Cloud wrote: Why is it sad that someone 4 pools you on bloodbath...? And well, kind of the other guys fault for not anticipating a fag that will stack scvs against him on bnet.
how am i a fag for stacking scvs. 4 pool on bloodbath is insta win, no effrt needed, my baby brother could do it. The only way to counter was fucking stacking so i did it.
On July 02 2009 11:07 AzureEye wrote: 4 pool is cheese that is part of the game. To be honest, 4 pool is not that deadly if you're a Terran and Zerg rarely has decent cheese that works against Terrans anyway compared to vice versa. Just because he 4 pool's does not make him lame, maybe he wants to practice his ling micro vs workers
How would you like it if everytime you opened up with wraiths, he has hacks that nuke your base?
I think you're the person who is wrong here. I hope rest of TL sees the same
4pool on a python would be easy to defend
4 pool on bloodbath which has a distance of like 3 seconds for lings is fucking lame.
if you don't want to deal with 4/5pool with short rush distance then maybe... don't play blood bath?
If you're know that 4 pool on bloodbath is deadlier than on regular maps, why play on bloodbath in the first place and then try to justify your wrongdoings by blaming it on the map?
Its like the same thing if I play on Lost Temple verses Terran and if Terran sieges tanks on cliffs, I get pissed and disconnect hack him or something because those Tanks on cliffs did huge econ damage to me. I should have known not to play Lost Temple from the beginning by anticipating things like this might happen. Cheese happens often, you can't blame it on the maps
On July 02 2009 11:09 Cloud wrote: Why is it sad that someone 4 pools you on bloodbath...? And well, kind of the other guys fault for not anticipating a fag that will stack scvs against him on bnet.
how am i a fag for stacking scvs. 4 pool on bloodbath is insta win, no effrt needed, my baby brother could do it. The only way to counter was fucking stacking so i did it.
What makes this funny is that you played against the guy who made a load of VODs describing exactly how to deal with 4 pool on bloodbath. You could watch those to stop being a freewin to 4 poolers maybe?
ROFL you were playing against CharlieMurphy, veteran of TL.net and one of the best bloodbath players. Search for his youtube videos on how to defend 4 pools.
On July 02 2009 11:19 Manifesto7 wrote: ROFL you were playing against CharlieMurphy, veteran of TL.net and one of the best bloodbath players. Search for his youtube videos on how to defend 4 pools.
Nice build by the way. On blood bath you went to 10/10, then started a depot, then cancelled, then started a rax, then made a depot, and you were dead.
Then you cheated.
Try learning how to build the first two terran buildings correctly before you cry about someone else.
On July 02 2009 11:26 Manifesto7 wrote: Nice build by the way. On blood bath you went to 10/10, then started a depot, then cancelled, then started a rax, then made a depot, and you were dead.
Then you cheated. Try learning how to build the first two terran buildings correctly before you cry about someone else.
On July 02 2009 11:19 Manifesto7 wrote: ROFL you were playing against CharlieMurphy, veteran of TL.net and one of the best bloodbath players. Search for his youtube videos on how to defend 4 pools.
Epic, epic fail.
why are u picking sides, i didnt come here to start a flame war, this guy started bm'ing stacking workers then compares it to hacking. He then starts whispering me while dnd'd and starts swearing and shit. I dont care if hes a veteran or not if he has manners like that than idc. Also, you say this guy is bloodbath legend? Rofl first game i completely fucked him over with terran and im a toss player. im sorry for saying this, i dont come on forums to flame or be flamed but the reaction i got from manifesto7 was uncalled for.
You got the reaction because you came on TL complaining about someone being BM. That person is also a TL member. Then, you post a replay where YOU are the one cheating, making the BM totally justified. If CM wasn't a TL member, I wouldn't care, but YOU are the one calling him out.
Don't cheat like a jerk and you won't get flamed. Worker stack bug and hacking are both types of cheating.
On July 02 2009 10:56 MuffiN wrote: Is this so bad to use on battle.net? If somebody is fucking 4pooling u on bloodbath, (fucking sad anyways) and u stack scvs cuase theres no other way to defend it is like charliemurhpy says 'fucking the same as multicommand' same as maphack? Please enlighten me. I know this bug is banned, however battle.net =/= iccup/progaming, u play for fun.
After the game, he starts crying and whispering while he is (DND) and tells me im a loser and stuff.
Am i wrong or is he just a overreacting little kid
P.S. Happy canada DAY!
On July 02 2009 11:26 Manifesto7 wrote: Nice build by the way. On blood bath you went to 10/10, then started a depot, then cancelled, then started a rax, then made a depot, and you were dead.
Then you cheated.
Try learning how to build the first two terran buildings correctly before you cry about someone else.
thank you
PS- I kept flaming OP in hopes that he would create a topic on the subject since he acted so impartial to the idea of worker stacking.
Also, The first game we played I noticed that his build was slow, so the next game i took advantage of his sorry build.
btw, it wasn't a 4pool - you even scouted me man, how did you think it was 4? It was clearly a 5pool. and you worker stacked not only once but twice, especially after i made it clear after the first time that it was cheating. And like I told you on bnet; 'you wanna fucking stack workers? OK then let's all stack workers and just play a fucking boring broken game of 10 scv fights, yay!'
On July 02 2009 11:09 Cloud wrote: Why is it sad that someone 4 pools you on bloodbath...? And well, kind of the other guys fault for not anticipating a fag that will stack scvs against him on bnet.
how am i a fag for stacking scvs. 4 pool on bloodbath is insta win, no effrt needed, my baby brother could do it. The only way to counter was fucking stacking so i did it.
What makes this funny is that you played against the guy who made a load of VODs describing exactly how to deal with 4 pool on bloodbath. You could watch those to stop being a freewin to 4 poolers maybe?
and even MORE ironic is that in the first game he was like "watch much youtube?" and i was like "what?" . He replied, "There are videos with the same strat on there." To which i replied, "Yea, those are me.."
and yet he still moved out where my burrowed lings were but some hotkey mishap made me fail. I said gg there btw, I don't play perfect all the time.
On July 02 2009 11:26 Manifesto7 wrote: Nice build by the way. On blood bath you went to 10/10, then started a depot, then cancelled, then started a rax, then made a depot, and you were dead.
Then you cheated.
Try learning how to build the first two terran buildings correctly before you cry about someone else.
thank you
PS- I kept flaming OP in hopes that he would create a topic on the subject since he acted so impartial to the idea of worker stacking.
Also, The first game we played I noticed that his build was slow, so the next game i took advantage of his sorry build.
btw, it wasn't a 4pool - you even scouted me man, how did you think it was 4? It was clearly a 5pool. and you worker stacked not only once but twice, especially after i made it clear after the first time that it was cheating.
he doesn't know the difference.
worker stacking is cheating, don't try to play it off, and definitely don't try to reverse the blame.
On July 02 2009 11:40 Manifesto7 wrote: You got the reaction because you came on TL complaining about someone being BM. That person is also a TL member. Then, you post a replay where YOU are the one cheating, making the BM totally justified. If CM wasn't a TL member, I wouldn't care, but YOU are the one calling him out.
Don't cheat like a jerk and you won't get flamed. Worker stack bug and hacking are both types of cheating.
Manifesto7 are u kidding me, i knew spor was charliemurphy, thats why i came here and wrote a topic so he would explain his bm to me and why he kept fucking bitching like a little girl. Worker stacking on battle.net and hacking are two different fucking things that are not even close to being the same. You just said, if CM wasnt a tl member u wouldnt care, so ur answers are so fucking baised. I came here for honest opinion, if i am wrong okay so be it, but u call me a dope a moron, criticize my play. Grow up please.
On July 02 2009 11:51 MuffiN wrote: im pretty sure that going on dnd, and crying while i cant respond back is fucking bitching.
and it wasn't DND it was /away . And all the away message said was 'no', lmao. because everything you were saying had a need of such a simple response. Again, can't you see that it said SpoR is away (no) , not SpoR has Do Not Disurb Mode Engaged (no) .
btw congrats on beating me on a bad day. we can re some other time if you dont cheat anymore
On July 02 2009 11:40 Manifesto7 wrote: You got the reaction because you came on TL complaining about someone being BM. That person is also a TL member. Then, you post a replay where YOU are the one cheating, making the BM totally justified. If CM wasn't a TL member, I wouldn't care, but YOU are the one calling him out.
Don't cheat like a jerk and you won't get flamed. Worker stack bug and hacking are both types of cheating.
Manifesto7 are u kidding me, i knew spor was charliemurphy, thats why i came here and wrote a topic so he would explain his bm to me and why he kept fucking bitching like a little girl. Worker stacking on battle.net and hacking are two different fucking things that are not even close to being the same. You just said, if CM wasnt a tl member u wouldnt care, so ur answers are so fucking baised. I came here for honest opinion, if i am wrong okay so be it, but u call me a dope a moron, criticize my play. Grow up please.
If you knew it was CM, then you know you are shitting on someone in public. You should expect backlash. How am I biased? Because I care if it is someone I know compared to someone I don't? That is stupid.
Cheating is cheating. Obviously there is nothing official about bnet, but it does say a lot about what kind of person you are.
You are a dope, you are a moron, and you play like shit. You
On July 02 2009 11:40 Manifesto7 wrote: You got the reaction because you came on TL complaining about someone being BM. That person is also a TL member. Then, you post a replay where YOU are the one cheating, making the BM totally justified. If CM wasn't a TL member, I wouldn't care, but YOU are the one calling him out.
Don't cheat like a jerk and you won't get flamed. Worker stack bug and hacking are both types of cheating.
Manifesto7 are u kidding me, i knew spor was charliemurphy, thats why i came here and wrote a topic so he would explain his bm to me and why he kept fucking bitching like a little girl. Worker stacking on battle.net and hacking are two different fucking things that are not even close to being the same. You just said, if CM wasnt a tl member u wouldnt care, so ur answers are so fucking baised. I came here for honest opinion, if i am wrong okay so be it, but u call me a dope a moron, criticize my play. Grow up please.
If you knew it was CM, then you know you are shitting on someone in public. You should expect backlash. How am I biased? Because I care if it is someone I know compared to someone I don't? That is stupid.
Cheating is cheating. Obviously there is nothing official about bnet, but it does say a lot about what kind of person you are.
You are a dope, you are a moron, and you play like shit. You
Im not shitting on him, i fucking said before. i came to tl-net to see what charliemurphy had to say and what others thought. If im wrong, im wrong. People make fucking mistakes but ur a little fucking bitch that expands on this shit for no reason. Im wrong, i admit it ill stop. fuck, i thought taht this glitch was something that was fun and harmless. I donte ver use it on iccup because im a toss player. Besides that, you are fucking biased u just said so 'Because I care if it is someone I know compared to someone I don't?' HOW IS THAT NOT BEING BIASED ROFL. Sad. Im a dope? you dont even fucking know me. Im a moron? for what because i 'misused a glitch'? and i play like shit, play me any time and i can honestly say i will rape u anyday 100-0.
How badly do you want to be banned? Regardless of who I am or who Mani is, you're being a fucktard still.
PPS- You're lucky that you still got some of your space men stacked before my prepared drone got to make the extractor to block such a noob/hacker move. Sorry that my workers don't insta-build stuff and have to wiggle their little tail and waste 2 seconds to build something.
A little off topic, but is it still against the rules if you stack your workers on the mineral line? Like if my main is being attacked and I have no units there except for drones, I select all workers, right click on one mineral patch, and then attack when the enemy gets close? I couldn't get this to work on a geyser, so I don't even know how he was doing that. I thought I've seen pros do the mineral thing though, so I'm just wondering. BTW, when I stack on minerals, the workers don't all continue to move around stacked, they just kind of scatter after you tell them to attack, as if you were trying to jump through a min line or a wall.
Want to talk to CharlieMurphy, use the PM function. Want to call someone out, make a blog.
About the glitch, don't fucking lie, you knew it was a shitty thing to do. Anyone who is on TL and plays iccup knows that.
And why the fuck would I want to read some shitty blog about some no name being BM to your cheating ass. Nobody would care. Obviously the only reason anyone cares is because we know the people involved. However, if the roles were reversed and CM was the one stacking workers, I would call him a faggot too. Faggot.
You are right, I don't know you. The only think I know about you is you cheat. Write some fucking poetry and reveal your sensitive side for us.
Finally, 100-0? Lets play a bo 199 on blood bath. I think I have a good idea how to win a game or two.
On July 02 2009 12:04 Radical wrote: A little off topic, but is it still against the rules if you stack your workers on the mineral line? Like if my main is being attacked and I have no units there except for drones, I select all workers, right click on one mineral patch, and then attack when the enemy gets close? I couldn't get this to work on a geyser, so I don't even know how he was doing that. I thought I've seen pros do the mineral thing though, so I'm just wondering. BTW, when I stack on minerals, the workers don't all continue to move around stacked, they just kind of scatter after you tell them to attack, as if you were trying to jump through a min line or a wall.
No, that is fine. This is a geyser bug where all the units stay stacked and move around. You can see the effects in the replay in the OP.
On July 02 2009 12:04 Radical wrote: A little off topic, but is it still against the rules if you stack your workers on the mineral line? Like if my main is being attacked and I have no units there except for drones, I select all workers, right click on one mineral patch, and then attack when the enemy gets close? I couldn't get this to work on a geyser, so I don't even know how he was doing that. I thought I've seen pros do the mineral thing though, so I'm just wondering. BTW, when I stack on minerals, the workers don't all continue to move around stacked, they just kind of scatter after you tell them to attack, as if you were trying to jump through a min line or a wall.
yea, scatter stack is still legal, so is stacked lurkers or stacked mutas/air units.
Just not these: geyser perma stacked workers, Burrow glitch stacked units that attack and move as one, or even the other geyser exploit to 'gas walk' through to places that are blocked off.
sorry for my newbishness, but people stack workers when they maynard, when zvp z goes lings up the ramp and probe harasses don't many pro p players use probe stack then stop over the lings so they fuck up the lings and trap/kill some? is it only stacking like 10 and attacking the lings with them to kill thats cheating?
shoot sorry didnt see that other post, i was typing this
On July 02 2009 12:07 Newguy wrote: sorry for my newbishness, but people stack workers when they maynard, when zvp z goes lings up the ramp and probe harasses don't many pro p players use probe stack then stop over the lings so they fuck up the lings and trap/kill some? is it only stacking like 10 and attacking the lings with them to kill thats cheating?
yea, we just explained that. It's different because the AI doesn't instant auto attack and they scatter around. The aformentioned scenario is more to delay and injure the units a little instead of the 'one-shot' rape that 7 stacked SCV can dish out on a ling.
On July 02 2009 12:05 Manifesto7 wrote: Want to talk to CharlieMurphy, use the PM function. Want to call someone out, make a blog.
About the glitch, don't fucking lie, you knew it was a shitty thing to do. Anyone who is on TL and plays iccup knows that.
And why the fuck would I want to read some shitty blog about some no name being BM to your cheating ass. Nobody would care. Obviously the only reason anyone cares is because we know the people involved. However, if the roles were reversed and CM was the one stacking workers, I would call him a faggot too. Faggot.
You are right, I don't know you. The only think I know about you is you cheat. Write some fucking poetry and reveal your sensitive side for us.
Finally, 100-0? Lets play a bo 199 on blood bath. I think I have a good idea how to win a game or two.
Want to talk to CharlieMurphy, use the PM function. Want to call someone out, make a blog.
Im not trying to call him out in a negative way. We all know hes a good player, one replay wont put his rep down at all. Not only did i want spor to explain himself i wanted opinion from others. So what teh fuck do i do get all the id's on teamliquid and pm then one by one?
If u dont give a shit why the fuck read and reply. Your the little sensitive faggot whos crying for no reason. A simple, you cheated ( explanation) would have fucking solved it. No, there are so many kids on battle.net that do this that i didnt htink it would be harmful to use. Ive never come across people do that on iccup and thats partly a reason that i overlooked.
Your correct, you acknowledge that u dont know me, then you write shit about me rofl. Sad, im not a sensitive person at all, the sensitive person is you , crying to protect your friend.
And i have a good idea that if i had the time to do bo199 (Not on bloodbath, cause ur gonna fucking 4 pool every game) I would rape u 100-0.
Fuck for a person i used to regard as somebody who made funny puns and great advice, your becoming a dick.
On July 02 2009 12:07 Newguy wrote: sorry for my newbishness, but people stack workers when they maynard, when zvp z goes lings up the ramp and probe harasses don't many pro p players use probe stack then stop over the lings so they fuck up the lings and trap/kill some? is it only stacking like 10 and attacking the lings with them to kill thats cheating?
shoot sorry didnt see that other post, i was typing this
That's different, they actually spread out after the stack, the SCV's in this case don't actually spread out, instead they stack and act like one unit and attack at the same time, 10 SCV's attacking at the same time will do alot of damage, it's sort of like muta stacking. That's what it looked like in the replay anyway.
On July 02 2009 12:10 MuffiN wrote: And i have a good idea that if i had the time to do bo199 (Not on bloodbath, cause ur gonna fucking 4 pool every game) I would rape u 100-0.
On July 02 2009 12:10 MuffiN wrote: And i have a good idea that if i had the time to do bo199 (Not on bloodbath, cause ur gonna fucking 4 pool every game) I would rape u 100-0.
??
lol, I assume that was a typo since 9 and 0 are together but seeing as how dumb this guy seems to be I wouldn't doubt the math error.
Well, TE is the best imo because the mins are balanced. In normal bb i think 7 and 1 are worse than 5 and 1(especailly).
Mani, okay, fine, for the sake of time we'll play 3-4 games, if u win one ill write a poem about the evils of glitching and worker stack. if i win, you have to write a poem on how awesome my user name is. : D
lol again, you don't pay attention to details. If you looked at the map, I have fixed the slow gathering spots and even fixed some other minor things that you probably aren't even aware of.
And the minerals are so crappily placed in TE> even the guy who made the map (which I have known for like 8 years) agrees that the map is not that good. http://repdepot.net/img/minimap/1024/783.jpg
I don't understand what you are trying to prove OP. You start the thread saying "Look at this dude who BM's me after I exploit to beat him." In you OP you even admit you know its an exploit that is banned.
Then in your thread when you get called out for exploiting vs somebody well known you turn it into YOU FUCKING SENSITIVE PUSSY NOOB I COULD 100-0 YOU ALL DAY YOU FAGGOT ASS.
And also, on BB you should pretty much always play safer, especially if you SCOUT the 5 pool >.<
If you want people to side with you, you should write a little more politely, and stop exploiting.
You are bitching about how others are bitching about something you did wrong, at least they have a real reason. If you wanted to see what the opinion of the others are by blogging about it, I think you got a fairly accurate view so far. The more you bitch, the more others will, this isn't going to work in your favour under the pretense. Get over it.
Well, TE is the best imo because the mins are balanced. In normal bb i think 7 and 1 are worse than 5 and 1(especailly).
Mani, okay, fine, for the sake of time we'll play 3-4 games, if u win one ill write a poem about the evils of glitching and worker stack. if i win, you have to write a poem on how awesome my user name is. : D
Sounds good. Muffins are awesome, so that should be easy.
Well, TE is the best imo because the mins are balanced. In normal bb i think 7 and 1 are worse than 5 and 1(especailly).
Mani, okay, fine, for the sake of time we'll play 3-4 games, if u win one ill write a poem about the evils of glitching and worker stack. if i win, you have to write a poem on how awesome my user name is. : D
Sounds good. Muffins are awesome, so that should be easy.
this implies you have the possibility of losing MAN UP
Well, TE is the best imo because the mins are balanced. In normal bb i think 7 and 1 are worse than 5 and 1(especailly).
Mani, okay, fine, for the sake of time we'll play 3-4 games, if u win one ill write a poem about the evils of glitching and worker stack. if i win, you have to write a poem on how awesome my user name is. : D
Sounds good. Muffins are awesome, so that should be easy.
this implies you have the possibility of losing MAN UP
Oh I'll win, but I might just write the poem anyway.
Well, TE is the best imo because the mins are balanced. In normal bb i think 7 and 1 are worse than 5 and 1(especailly).
Mani, okay, fine, for the sake of time we'll play 3-4 games, if u win one ill write a poem about the evils of glitching and worker stack. if i win, you have to write a poem on how awesome my user name is. : D
Sounds good. Muffins are awesome, so that should be easy.
this implies you have the possibility of losing MAN UP
Oh I'll win, but I might just write the poem anyway.
Well, TE is the best imo because the mins are balanced. In normal bb i think 7 and 1 are worse than 5 and 1(especailly).
Mani, okay, fine, for the sake of time we'll play 3-4 games, if u win one ill write a poem about the evils of glitching and worker stack. if i win, you have to write a poem on how awesome my user name is. : D
On July 02 2009 12:07 Newguy wrote: sorry for my newbishness, but people stack workers when they maynard, when zvp z goes lings up the ramp and probe harasses don't many pro p players use probe stack then stop over the lings so they fuck up the lings and trap/kill some? is it only stacking like 10 and attacking the lings with them to kill thats cheating?
yea, we just explained that. It's different because the AI doesn't instant auto attack and they scatter around. The aformentioned scenario is more to delay and injure the units a little instead of the 'one-shot' rape that 7 stacked SCV can dish out on a ling.
On July 02 2009 11:19 Manifesto7 wrote: ROFL you were playing against CharlieMurphy, veteran of TL.net and one of the best bloodbath players. Search for his youtube videos on how to defend 4 pools.
On July 02 2009 12:07 Newguy wrote: sorry for my newbishness, but people stack workers when they maynard, when zvp z goes lings up the ramp and probe harasses don't many pro p players use probe stack then stop over the lings so they fuck up the lings and trap/kill some? is it only stacking like 10 and attacking the lings with them to kill thats cheating?
yea, we just explained that. It's different because the AI doesn't instant auto attack and they scatter around. The aformentioned scenario is more to delay and injure the units a little instead of the 'one-shot' rape that 7 stacked SCV can dish out on a ling.
How is this that much different from muta stack?
No land units normally stack. All air units normally stack.
Imagine if you could stack ultras or siege tanks...
On July 02 2009 10:56 MuffiN wrote: Is this so bad to use on battle.net? If somebody is fucking 4pooling u on bloodbath, (fucking sad anyways) and u stack scvs cuase theres no other way to defend it is like charliemurhpy says 'fucking the same as multicommand' same as maphack? Please enlighten me. I know this bug is banned, however battle.net =/= iccup/progaming, u play for fun.
After the game, he starts crying and whispering while he is (DND) and tells me im a loser and stuff.
Am i wrong or is he just a overreacting little kid
P.S. Happy canada DAY!
You are playing on Battle.net, there are no rules, it is not a league or a tournament or a private ladder, you can do whatever you want within the limits of the game there are no rules to sanction what "bugs" are cheating and which aren't. Saying muta stacking is not cheating and saying worker stacking isn't is just hypocrisy even though Z balance relies entirely on a bug, it's Blizzard's own fault for keeping both bugs in the game. Doing this on iccup knowingly would definitely be cheating though.
Obviously posting here is a bad idea, just letting you know are in the right and it doesn't matter at ALL what bugs the community deems acceptable on Battle.net.
I'm only on page 2 but quit being a damn baby Muffin. You fucking cheated because you were sad you got 5 pooled. Which isn't even impossible to stop. Cry baby much? Jesus Christ. Just alt QQ
No land units normally stack. All air units normally stack.
Imagine if you could stack ultras or siege tanks...
Why don't we really see stacking of any other air units besides mutas then? Seems kinda silly to let one bug be ok but not something like SCV stack (which prob can easily be taken out by any microing ranged unit).
whoa, just noticed the OP poster was muffin, a person i have played against about 1 year ago and caught map hacking repeatedly. is it publicly known that he hacks? and i guess this means it is ok to worker stack for him since he cheats anyways...
proof is here: http://golfscript.com/temp/muffinhacks.zip in rep 0016 he clicks my spawning pool which he cant see. i didnt see the rep in which i originally caught him (this was just a quick search for files with name muffin in them). he also does blatant stuff like moves units in response to my army coming into view in one of the PvP replays, but 1 second before he can see them...
No land units normally stack. All air units normally stack.
Imagine if you could stack ultras or siege tanks...
Why don't we really see stacking of any other air units besides mutas then? Seems kinda silly to let one bug be ok but not something like SCV stack (which prob can easily be taken out by any microing ranged unit).
We do see stacking of other units like Wraiths, but there generally isn't too much of a difference between a stacked corsair or an unstacked corsair.
On July 03 2009 12:43 CharlieMurphy wrote: well sairs do splash so its not as useful, that is the main reason. But stacked sairs are still slightly better I think.
and flag, I wouldn't doubt it. But if its true then why the fuck would this idiot 10 rax vs a 5pool?
i havent watched that rep, but maybe he stopped hacking? it was a year ago... or maybe he was planning on worker stacking all along. also charlie are you up for some blood baths? i havent played seriously in a while but id like to get back into it
No land units normally stack. All air units normally stack.
Imagine if you could stack ultras or siege tanks...
Why don't we really see stacking of any other air units besides mutas then? Seems kinda silly to let one bug be ok but not something like SCV stack (which prob can easily be taken out by any microing ranged unit).
Agreed. There's such a double standard. Allied mines is pretty much the same principle as stop lurkers and worker stack is similar to muta stack. Muta stack is pretty hard to face as a terran when all your marines are being eaten up one by one. And the only other air unit that is stacked is the wraith and it's only used in tvz. It's quite probable that every terran would trade a ban on wraith stack for muta stack any day.
I don't particularly like the idea of stacked air units either, but later in the game like this the stack can be dealt with more easily (splash damage and static de). When its this early in the game you can't really do anything about it.
No land units normally stack. All air units normally stack.
Imagine if you could stack ultras or siege tanks...
Why don't we really see stacking of any other air units besides mutas then? Seems kinda silly to let one bug be ok but not something like SCV stack (which prob can easily be taken out by any microing ranged unit).
Agreed. There's such a double standard. Allied mines is pretty much the same principle as stop lurkers and worker stack is similar to muta stack. Muta stack is pretty hard to face as a terran when all your marines are being eaten up one by one. And the only other air unit that is stacked is the wraith and it's only used in tvz. It's quite probable that every terran would trade a ban on wraith stack for muta stack any day.
How is that fair at all... If there was some way to make mines not attack without using the diplo box, it'd be fine, but you can't. If all your marines are being eaten up 1 by 1, you should read a guide on how to control your marines against mutas.
There is nothing wrong with 5pool, what is this? 1999? Also, saying that you only stacked workers because he went 5 pool is like, hackers who say they hack because everyone else hacks. Although I must say CM really went a little overboard. I mean, what do you expect when you are playing on bnet? You should be glad he wasn't hacking at least (or was he?).
I must confess though, if I got 5pooled, I would be pretty pissed and if I knew how to stack workers against some random bnet pubbie... I just might (but I would know deep down that it was wrong of me to do so).
Bnet is completely different world from iccup, you just do whatever. I have allied mines on bnet, and observer over turret, and return cargo through zealot on ramp, just cause... well, you have to try it some time, you know? Cause you never get that chance on iccup. And come on, its allied mines!!
Don't pros do this stacking? Order all workers to mine the one patch that's in between 2 patches. Then order them 2 move on another patch? Doesn't the pros do this and the only way to fend off 4 pool?