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MuffiN
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Korea (North)201 Posts
July 02 2009 01:56 GMT
#1
Is this so bad to use on battle.net? If somebody is fucking 4pooling u on bloodbath, (fucking sad anyways) and u stack scvs cuase theres no other way to defend it is like charliemurhpy says 'fucking the same as multicommand' same as maphack? Please enlighten me. I know this bug is banned, however battle.net =/= iccup/progaming, u play for fun.

After the game, he starts crying and whispering while he is (DND) and tells me im a loser and stuff.

He has anger issues

REP: http://repdepot.net/replay.php?id=15973&key=0cd7aa


Am i wrong or is he just a overreacting little kid

P.S. Happy canada DAY!

*
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LosingID8
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
CA10828 Posts
July 02 2009 02:01 GMT
#2
yes, permastacking your workers is an extremely lame move on bnet as well.

i flame people like crazy whenever they do that.
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RoieTRS
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States2569 Posts
July 02 2009 02:01 GMT
#3
was 5pool.

Watching atm
konadora, in Racenilatr's blog: "you need to stop thinking about starcraft or anything computer-related for that matter. It's becoming a bad addiction imo"
MuffiN
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Korea (North)201 Posts
July 02 2009 02:01 GMT
#4
but no need to bitch and continue whispering me on battle net rofl and being dnd-'d ...
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AzureEye
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1360 Posts
July 02 2009 02:07 GMT
#5
4 pool is cheese that is part of the game. To be honest, 4 pool is not that deadly if you're a Terran and Zerg rarely has decent cheese that works against Terrans anyway compared to vice versa. Just because he 4 pool's does not make him lame, maybe he wants to practice his ling micro vs workers

How would you like it if everytime you opened up with wraiths, he has hacks that nuke your base?

I think you're the person who is wrong here. I hope rest of TL sees the same
Terrans who whine: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=107788
MuffiN
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Korea (North)201 Posts
July 02 2009 02:08 GMT
#6
On July 02 2009 11:07 AzureEye wrote:
4 pool is cheese that is part of the game. To be honest, 4 pool is not that deadly if you're a Terran and Zerg rarely has decent cheese that works against Terrans anyway compared to vice versa. Just because he 4 pool's does not make him lame, maybe he wants to practice his ling micro vs workers

How would you like it if everytime you opened up with wraiths, he has hacks that nuke your base?

I think you're the person who is wrong here. I hope rest of TL sees the same



4pool on a python would be easy to defend


4 pool on bloodbath which has a distance of like 3 seconds for lings is fucking lame.
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Cloud
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sexico5880 Posts
July 02 2009 02:09 GMT
#7
Why is it sad that someone 4 pools you on bloodbath...? And well, kind of the other guys fault for not anticipating a fag that will stack scvs against him on bnet.
BlueLaguna on West, msg for game.
MuffiN
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Korea (North)201 Posts
July 02 2009 02:11 GMT
#8
On July 02 2009 11:09 Cloud wrote:
Why is it sad that someone 4 pools you on bloodbath...? And well, kind of the other guys fault for not anticipating a fag that will stack scvs against him on bnet.



how am i a fag for stacking scvs. 4 pool on bloodbath is insta win, no effrt needed, my baby brother could do it. The only way to counter was fucking stacking so i did it.
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MuffiN
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Korea (North)201 Posts
July 02 2009 02:12 GMT
#9
Whatever, admin please close this.
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LosingID8
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
CA10828 Posts
July 02 2009 02:12 GMT
#10
On July 02 2009 11:08 MuffiN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2009 11:07 AzureEye wrote:
4 pool is cheese that is part of the game. To be honest, 4 pool is not that deadly if you're a Terran and Zerg rarely has decent cheese that works against Terrans anyway compared to vice versa. Just because he 4 pool's does not make him lame, maybe he wants to practice his ling micro vs workers

How would you like it if everytime you opened up with wraiths, he has hacks that nuke your base?

I think you're the person who is wrong here. I hope rest of TL sees the same



4pool on a python would be easy to defend


4 pool on bloodbath which has a distance of like 3 seconds for lings is fucking lame.

if you don't want to deal with 4/5pool with short rush distance then maybe... don't play blood bath?
ModeratorResident K-POP Elitist
ghostWriter
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3302 Posts
July 02 2009 02:13 GMT
#11
If it's a bug, then it's okay.
If it's a hack, then not okay, simple as that.
Sullifam
AzureEye
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1360 Posts
July 02 2009 02:14 GMT
#12
If you're know that 4 pool on bloodbath is deadlier than on regular maps, why play on bloodbath in the first place and then try to justify your wrongdoings by blaming it on the map?

Its like the same thing if I play on Lost Temple verses Terran and if Terran sieges tanks on cliffs, I get pissed and disconnect hack him or something because those Tanks on cliffs did huge econ damage to me. I should have known not to play Lost Temple from the beginning by anticipating things like this might happen. Cheese happens often, you can't blame it on the maps
Terrans who whine: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=107788
Dreadwave
Profile Joined January 2008
Netherlands254 Posts
July 02 2009 02:16 GMT
#13
On July 02 2009 11:11 MuffiN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2009 11:09 Cloud wrote:
Why is it sad that someone 4 pools you on bloodbath...? And well, kind of the other guys fault for not anticipating a fag that will stack scvs against him on bnet.



how am i a fag for stacking scvs. 4 pool on bloodbath is insta win, no effrt needed, my baby brother could do it. The only way to counter was fucking stacking so i did it.

What makes this funny is that you played against the guy who made a load of VODs describing exactly how to deal with 4 pool on bloodbath. You could watch those to stop being a freewin to 4 poolers maybe?
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27149 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-02 02:27:26
July 02 2009 02:16 GMT
#14
You're a dope. 4 pool isn't cheating, stack worker is.
ModeratorGodfather
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27149 Posts
July 02 2009 02:19 GMT
#15
ROFL you were playing against CharlieMurphy, veteran of TL.net and one of the best bloodbath players. Search for his youtube videos on how to defend 4 pools.

Epic, epic fail.
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IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32274 Posts
July 02 2009 02:20 GMT
#16
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
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AzureEye
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1360 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-02 02:21:58
July 02 2009 02:21 GMT
#17
On July 02 2009 11:19 Manifesto7 wrote:
ROFL you were playing against CharlieMurphy, veteran of TL.net and one of the best bloodbath players. Search for his youtube videos on how to defend 4 pools.

Epic, epic fail.


lol? Rofl.....what IRONY

edit: This thread deserves to be stickied
Terrans who whine: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=107788
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27149 Posts
July 02 2009 02:26 GMT
#18
Nice build by the way. On blood bath you went to 10/10, then started a depot, then cancelled, then started a rax, then made a depot, and you were dead.

Then you cheated.

Try learning how to build the first two terran buildings correctly before you cry about someone else.
ModeratorGodfather
MuffiN
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Korea (North)201 Posts
July 02 2009 02:30 GMT
#19
mainfesto7, he randomed. I didnt know that he was a zerg and would 4pool.
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Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27149 Posts
July 02 2009 02:31 GMT
#20
So... what were you doing going to 10/10 without building anything?
ModeratorGodfather
MuffiN
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Korea (North)201 Posts
July 02 2009 02:32 GMT
#21
i was 9/10 supply then i canceled that supply and made barrack. while i canceled it became 10/10...
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Clasic
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Bosnia-Herzegovina1437 Posts
July 02 2009 02:33 GMT
#22
On July 02 2009 11:26 Manifesto7 wrote:
Nice build by the way. On blood bath you went to 10/10, then started a depot, then cancelled, then started a rax, then made a depot, and you were dead.

Then you cheated.

Try learning how to build the first two terran buildings correctly before you cry about someone else.


This lol..
No no no no its not mine!
Kurosaki
Profile Joined August 2008
United States158 Posts
July 02 2009 02:34 GMT
#23
This thread just got better.
MuffiN
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Korea (North)201 Posts
July 02 2009 02:35 GMT
#24
On July 02 2009 11:19 Manifesto7 wrote:
ROFL you were playing against CharlieMurphy, veteran of TL.net and one of the best bloodbath players. Search for his youtube videos on how to defend 4 pools.

Epic, epic fail.



why are u picking sides, i didnt come here to start a flame war, this guy started bm'ing stacking workers then compares it to hacking. He then starts whispering me while dnd'd and starts swearing and shit. I dont care if hes a veteran or not if he has manners like that than idc. Also, you say this guy is bloodbath legend? Rofl first game i completely fucked him over with terran and im a toss player. im sorry for saying this, i dont come on forums to flame or be flamed but the reaction i got from manifesto7 was uncalled for.
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Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27149 Posts
July 02 2009 02:40 GMT
#25
You got the reaction because you came on TL complaining about someone being BM. That person is also a TL member. Then, you post a replay where YOU are the one cheating, making the BM totally justified. If CM wasn't a TL member, I wouldn't care, but YOU are the one calling him out.

Don't cheat like a jerk and you won't get flamed. Worker stack bug and hacking are both types of cheating.
ModeratorGodfather
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-02 03:04:31
July 02 2009 02:41 GMT
#26
On July 02 2009 10:56 MuffiN wrote:
Is this so bad to use on battle.net? If somebody is fucking 4pooling u on bloodbath, (fucking sad anyways) and u stack scvs cuase theres no other way to defend it is like charliemurhpy says 'fucking the same as multicommand' same as maphack? Please enlighten me. I know this bug is banned, however battle.net =/= iccup/progaming, u play for fun.

After the game, he starts crying and whispering while he is (DND) and tells me im a loser and stuff.

He has anger issues

REP: http://repdepot.net/replay.php?id=15973&key=0cd7aa


Am i wrong or is he just a overreacting little kid

P.S. Happy canada DAY!



On July 02 2009 11:26 Manifesto7 wrote:
Nice build by the way. On blood bath you went to 10/10, then started a depot, then cancelled, then started a rax, then made a depot, and you were dead.

Then you cheated.

Try learning how to build the first two terran buildings correctly before you cry about someone else.

thank you

PS- I kept flaming OP in hopes that he would create a topic on the subject since he acted so impartial to the idea of worker stacking.

Also, The first game we played I noticed that his build was slow, so the next game i took advantage of his sorry build.

btw, it wasn't a 4pool - you even scouted me man, how did you think it was 4? It was clearly a 5pool.
and you worker stacked not only once but twice, especially after i made it clear after the first time that it was cheating. And like I told you on bnet; 'you wanna fucking stack workers? OK then let's all stack workers and just play a fucking boring broken game of 10 scv fights, yay!'

On July 02 2009 11:16 Dreadwave wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2009 11:11 MuffiN wrote:
On July 02 2009 11:09 Cloud wrote:
Why is it sad that someone 4 pools you on bloodbath...? And well, kind of the other guys fault for not anticipating a fag that will stack scvs against him on bnet.



how am i a fag for stacking scvs. 4 pool on bloodbath is insta win, no effrt needed, my baby brother could do it. The only way to counter was fucking stacking so i did it.

What makes this funny is that you played against the guy who made a load of VODs describing exactly how to deal with 4 pool on bloodbath. You could watch those to stop being a freewin to 4 poolers maybe?



and even MORE ironic is that in the first game he was like "watch much youtube?" and i was like "what?" . He replied, "There are videos with the same strat on there." To which i replied, "Yea, those are me.."

and yet he still moved out where my burrowed lings were but some hotkey mishap made me fail. I said gg there btw, I don't play perfect all the time.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
Etherone
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1898 Posts
July 02 2009 02:46 GMT
#27
On July 02 2009 11:41 CharlieMurphy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2009 11:26 Manifesto7 wrote:
Nice build by the way. On blood bath you went to 10/10, then started a depot, then cancelled, then started a rax, then made a depot, and you were dead.

Then you cheated.

Try learning how to build the first two terran buildings correctly before you cry about someone else.

thank you

PS- I kept flaming OP in hopes that he would create a topic on the subject since he acted so impartial to the idea of worker stacking.

Also, The first game we played I noticed that his build was slow, so the next game i took advantage of his sorry build.

btw, it wasn't a 4pool - you even scouted me man, how did you think it was 4? It was clearly a 5pool.
and you worker stacked not only once but twice, especially after i made it clear after the first time that it was cheating.


he doesn't know the difference.


worker stacking is cheating, don't try to play it off, and definitely don't try to reverse the blame.
MuffiN
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Korea (North)201 Posts
July 02 2009 02:46 GMT
#28
On July 02 2009 11:40 Manifesto7 wrote:
You got the reaction because you came on TL complaining about someone being BM. That person is also a TL member. Then, you post a replay where YOU are the one cheating, making the BM totally justified. If CM wasn't a TL member, I wouldn't care, but YOU are the one calling him out.

Don't cheat like a jerk and you won't get flamed. Worker stack bug and hacking are both types of cheating.



Manifesto7 are u kidding me, i knew spor was charliemurphy, thats why i came here and wrote a topic so he would explain his bm to me and why he kept fucking bitching like a little girl. Worker stacking on battle.net and hacking are two different fucking things that are not even close to being the same. You just said, if CM wasnt a tl member u wouldnt care, so ur answers are so fucking baised. I came here for honest opinion, if i am wrong okay so be it, but u call me a dope a moron, criticize my play. Grow up please.
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ghostWriter
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3302 Posts
July 02 2009 02:47 GMT
#29
Yeah it was obviously a 5pool and it's a legitimate strategy. There's nothing wrong with it and you should have been prepared anyway.
Sullifam
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-02 02:48:47
July 02 2009 02:48 GMT
#30
I wasn't bitching btw, I was logically explaining the comparison of using an exploit in the game with a program that you dl'd. They are the same thing
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
ghostWriter
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3302 Posts
July 02 2009 02:50 GMT
#31
I feel like using bugs like magic windows is legal if blizzard hasn't fixed it yet. It's different from downloading a third party program.
Sullifam
MuffiN
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Korea (North)201 Posts
July 02 2009 02:51 GMT
#32
im pretty sure that going on dnd, and crying while i cant respond back is fucking bitching.
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CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-02 02:54:47
July 02 2009 02:52 GMT
#33
On July 02 2009 11:51 MuffiN wrote:
im pretty sure that going on dnd, and crying while i cant respond back is fucking bitching.

and it wasn't DND it was /away . And all the away message said was 'no', lmao. because everything you were saying had a need of such a simple response.
Again, can't you see that it said SpoR is away (no) , not SpoR has Do Not Disurb Mode Engaged (no) .

btw congrats on beating me on a bad day. we can re some other time if you dont cheat anymore
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
MuffiN
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Korea (North)201 Posts
July 02 2009 02:54 GMT
#34
same fucking shit, i cant reply.
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Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27149 Posts
July 02 2009 02:56 GMT
#35
On July 02 2009 11:46 MuffiN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2009 11:40 Manifesto7 wrote:
You got the reaction because you came on TL complaining about someone being BM. That person is also a TL member. Then, you post a replay where YOU are the one cheating, making the BM totally justified. If CM wasn't a TL member, I wouldn't care, but YOU are the one calling him out.

Don't cheat like a jerk and you won't get flamed. Worker stack bug and hacking are both types of cheating.



Manifesto7 are u kidding me, i knew spor was charliemurphy, thats why i came here and wrote a topic so he would explain his bm to me and why he kept fucking bitching like a little girl. Worker stacking on battle.net and hacking are two different fucking things that are not even close to being the same. You just said, if CM wasnt a tl member u wouldnt care, so ur answers are so fucking baised. I came here for honest opinion, if i am wrong okay so be it, but u call me a dope a moron, criticize my play. Grow up please.


If you knew it was CM, then you know you are shitting on someone in public. You should expect backlash. How am I biased? Because I care if it is someone I know compared to someone I don't? That is stupid.

Cheating is cheating. Obviously there is nothing official about bnet, but it does say a lot about what kind of person you are.

You are a dope, you are a moron, and you play like shit. You
came here for honest opinion

and I'm giving it to you.
ModeratorGodfather
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-02 02:58:39
July 02 2009 02:56 GMT
#36
ok you are clearly ignorant to many things in starcraft and battle.net . I guess you are forgiven if you learn from your mistakes, otherwise fuck you.

PS- Don't bring Canada into this, if you are Canadian you make your people look bad. You should be ashamed.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
MuffiN
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Korea (North)201 Posts
July 02 2009 02:59 GMT
#37
On July 02 2009 11:56 Manifesto7 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2009 11:46 MuffiN wrote:
On July 02 2009 11:40 Manifesto7 wrote:
You got the reaction because you came on TL complaining about someone being BM. That person is also a TL member. Then, you post a replay where YOU are the one cheating, making the BM totally justified. If CM wasn't a TL member, I wouldn't care, but YOU are the one calling him out.

Don't cheat like a jerk and you won't get flamed. Worker stack bug and hacking are both types of cheating.



Manifesto7 are u kidding me, i knew spor was charliemurphy, thats why i came here and wrote a topic so he would explain his bm to me and why he kept fucking bitching like a little girl. Worker stacking on battle.net and hacking are two different fucking things that are not even close to being the same. You just said, if CM wasnt a tl member u wouldnt care, so ur answers are so fucking baised. I came here for honest opinion, if i am wrong okay so be it, but u call me a dope a moron, criticize my play. Grow up please.


If you knew it was CM, then you know you are shitting on someone in public. You should expect backlash. How am I biased? Because I care if it is someone I know compared to someone I don't? That is stupid.

Cheating is cheating. Obviously there is nothing official about bnet, but it does say a lot about what kind of person you are.

You are a dope, you are a moron, and you play like shit. You
Show nested quote +
came here for honest opinion

and I'm giving it to you.


Im not shitting on him, i fucking said before. i came to tl-net to see what charliemurphy had to say and what others thought. If im wrong, im wrong. People make fucking mistakes but ur a little fucking bitch that expands on this shit for no reason. Im wrong, i admit it ill stop. fuck, i thought taht this glitch was something that was fun and harmless. I donte ver use it on iccup because im a toss player. Besides that, you are fucking biased u just said so 'Because I care if it is someone I know compared to someone I don't?' HOW IS THAT NOT BEING BIASED ROFL. Sad. Im a dope? you dont even fucking know me. Im a moron? for what because i 'misused a glitch'? and i play like shit, play me any time and i can honestly say i will rape u anyday 100-0.

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CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-02 03:05:31
July 02 2009 03:01 GMT
#38
How badly do you want to be banned? Regardless of who I am or who Mani is, you're being a fucktard still.

PPS- You're lucky that you still got some of your space men stacked before my prepared drone got to make the extractor to block such a noob/hacker move. Sorry that my workers don't insta-build stuff and have to wiggle their little tail and waste 2 seconds to build something.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
MuffiN
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Korea (North)201 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-02 03:04:25
July 02 2009 03:03 GMT
#39
if im being banned for arguing against a very biased person then whatever.

Charlie ill 1v1 u anymap right now. and i wont use this 'cheat'.
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Radical
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States481 Posts
July 02 2009 03:04 GMT
#40
A little off topic, but is it still against the rules if you stack your workers on the mineral line? Like if my main is being attacked and I have no units there except for drones, I select all workers, right click on one mineral patch, and then attack when the enemy gets close? I couldn't get this to work on a geyser, so I don't even know how he was doing that. I thought I've seen pros do the mineral thing though, so I'm just wondering. BTW, when I stack on minerals, the workers don't all continue to move around stacked, they just kind of scatter after you tell them to attack, as if you were trying to jump through a min line or a wall.
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27149 Posts
July 02 2009 03:05 GMT
#41
Want to talk to CharlieMurphy, use the PM function. Want to call someone out, make a blog.

About the glitch, don't fucking lie, you knew it was a shitty thing to do. Anyone who is on TL and plays iccup knows that.

And why the fuck would I want to read some shitty blog about some no name being BM to your cheating ass. Nobody would care. Obviously the only reason anyone cares is because we know the people involved. However, if the roles were reversed and CM was the one stacking workers, I would call him a faggot too. Faggot.

You are right, I don't know you. The only think I know about you is you cheat. Write some fucking poetry and reveal your sensitive side for us.

Finally, 100-0? Lets play a bo 199 on blood bath. I think I have a good idea how to win a game or two.
ModeratorGodfather
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27149 Posts
July 02 2009 03:07 GMT
#42
On July 02 2009 12:04 Radical wrote:
A little off topic, but is it still against the rules if you stack your workers on the mineral line? Like if my main is being attacked and I have no units there except for drones, I select all workers, right click on one mineral patch, and then attack when the enemy gets close? I couldn't get this to work on a geyser, so I don't even know how he was doing that. I thought I've seen pros do the mineral thing though, so I'm just wondering. BTW, when I stack on minerals, the workers don't all continue to move around stacked, they just kind of scatter after you tell them to attack, as if you were trying to jump through a min line or a wall.


No, that is fine. This is a geyser bug where all the units stay stacked and move around. You can see the effects in the replay in the OP.
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CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-02 03:08:13
July 02 2009 03:07 GMT
#43
On July 02 2009 12:04 Radical wrote:
A little off topic, but is it still against the rules if you stack your workers on the mineral line? Like if my main is being attacked and I have no units there except for drones, I select all workers, right click on one mineral patch, and then attack when the enemy gets close? I couldn't get this to work on a geyser, so I don't even know how he was doing that. I thought I've seen pros do the mineral thing though, so I'm just wondering. BTW, when I stack on minerals, the workers don't all continue to move around stacked, they just kind of scatter after you tell them to attack, as if you were trying to jump through a min line or a wall.


yea, scatter stack is still legal, so is stacked lurkers or stacked mutas/air units.

Just not these: geyser perma stacked workers, Burrow glitch stacked units that attack and move as one, or even the other geyser exploit to 'gas walk' through to places that are blocked off.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
goswser
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3546 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-02 03:11:09
July 02 2009 03:07 GMT
#44
sorry for my newbishness, but people stack workers when they maynard, when zvp z goes lings up the ramp and probe harasses don't many pro p players use probe stack then stop over the lings so they fuck up the lings and trap/kill some? is it only stacking like 10 and attacking the lings with them to kill thats cheating?

shoot sorry didnt see that other post, i was typing this
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Radical
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States481 Posts
July 02 2009 03:09 GMT
#45
Thanks both of you, that clears it up.
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-02 03:10:41
July 02 2009 03:09 GMT
#46
On July 02 2009 12:07 Newguy wrote:
sorry for my newbishness, but people stack workers when they maynard, when zvp z goes lings up the ramp and probe harasses don't many pro p players use probe stack then stop over the lings so they fuck up the lings and trap/kill some? is it only stacking like 10 and attacking the lings with them to kill thats cheating?

yea, we just explained that. It's different because the AI doesn't instant auto attack and they scatter around. The aformentioned scenario is more to delay and injure the units a little instead of the 'one-shot' rape that 7 stacked SCV can dish out on a ling.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
MuffiN
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Korea (North)201 Posts
July 02 2009 03:10 GMT
#47
On July 02 2009 12:05 Manifesto7 wrote:
Want to talk to CharlieMurphy, use the PM function. Want to call someone out, make a blog.

About the glitch, don't fucking lie, you knew it was a shitty thing to do. Anyone who is on TL and plays iccup knows that.

And why the fuck would I want to read some shitty blog about some no name being BM to your cheating ass. Nobody would care. Obviously the only reason anyone cares is because we know the people involved. However, if the roles were reversed and CM was the one stacking workers, I would call him a faggot too. Faggot.

You are right, I don't know you. The only think I know about you is you cheat. Write some fucking poetry and reveal your sensitive side for us.

Finally, 100-0? Lets play a bo 199 on blood bath. I think I have a good idea how to win a game or two.


Want to talk to CharlieMurphy, use the PM function. Want to call someone out, make a blog.

Im not trying to call him out in a negative way. We all know hes a good player, one replay wont put his rep down at all. Not only did i want spor to explain himself i wanted opinion from others. So what teh fuck do i do get all the id's on teamliquid and pm then one by one?

If u dont give a shit why the fuck read and reply. Your the little sensitive faggot whos crying for no reason. A simple, you cheated ( explanation) would have fucking solved it. No, there are so many kids on battle.net that do this that i didnt htink it would be harmful to use. Ive never come across people do that on iccup and thats partly a reason that i overlooked.

Your correct, you acknowledge that u dont know me, then you write shit about me rofl. Sad, im not a sensitive person at all, the sensitive person is you , crying to protect your friend.

And i have a good idea that if i had the time to do bo199 (Not on bloodbath, cause ur gonna fucking 4 pool every game) I would rape u 100-0.

Fuck for a person i used to regard as somebody who made funny puns and great advice, your becoming a dick.
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CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
July 02 2009 03:15 GMT
#48
is away (no).
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
July 02 2009 03:15 GMT
#49
On July 02 2009 12:07 Newguy wrote:
sorry for my newbishness, but people stack workers when they maynard, when zvp z goes lings up the ramp and probe harasses don't many pro p players use probe stack then stop over the lings so they fuck up the lings and trap/kill some? is it only stacking like 10 and attacking the lings with them to kill thats cheating?

shoot sorry didnt see that other post, i was typing this

That's different, they actually spread out after the stack, the SCV's in this case don't actually spread out, instead they stack and act like one unit and attack at the same time, 10 SCV's attacking at the same time will do alot of damage, it's sort of like muta stacking. That's what it looked like in the replay anyway.
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
July 02 2009 03:15 GMT
#50
I always thought 4/5pool was a really weak build on blood bath? o_O
Everyone opens 8rax or double gate...
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27149 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-02 03:20:50
July 02 2009 03:17 GMT
#51
Lets do it. The only good way to settle anything on TL is to play BW. My iccup is TL-Mani, add me and I'll catch you online sometime.

If I win a game, you have to write a poem about the evils of worker glitches.

If I don't win a game... name it.
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CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-02 03:19:56
July 02 2009 03:18 GMT
#52
On July 02 2009 12:15 Dead9 wrote:
I always thought 4/5pool was a really weak build on blood bath? o_O
Everyone opens 8rax or double gate...

yea, it is- and they do. But if the guy is opening 10 rax or something then it rapes obviously.

btw Mufin, BB TE is a worse map. It even looks ugly http://repdepot.net/img/minimap/1024/531.jpg
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
Rostam
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2552 Posts
July 02 2009 03:19 GMT
#53
On July 02 2009 12:10 MuffiN wrote:
And i have a good idea that if i had the time to do bo199 (Not on bloodbath, cause ur gonna fucking 4 pool every game) I would rape u 100-0.


??
BW forever || Thall
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
July 02 2009 03:20 GMT
#54
On July 02 2009 12:19 Rostam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2009 12:10 MuffiN wrote:
And i have a good idea that if i had the time to do bo199 (Not on bloodbath, cause ur gonna fucking 4 pool every game) I would rape u 100-0.


??

lol, I assume that was a typo since 9 and 0 are together but seeing as how dumb this guy seems to be I wouldn't doubt the math error.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
Lucktar
Profile Joined July 2008
United States526 Posts
July 02 2009 03:20 GMT
#55
Wheee drama. And this is the most I've seen Mani post in a single thread in like, ever.
NaDa, much, ZerO fighting!
B1nary
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada1267 Posts
July 02 2009 03:23 GMT
#56
Your opponent using an "unfair" build doesn't give you the right to use a banned exploit. Unless you want to piss people off, don't do it.
MuffiN
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Korea (North)201 Posts
July 02 2009 03:24 GMT
#57
On July 02 2009 12:18 CharlieMurphy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2009 12:15 Dead9 wrote:
I always thought 4/5pool was a really weak build on blood bath? o_O
Everyone opens 8rax or double gate...

yea, it is- and they do. But if the guy is opening 10 rax or something then it rapes obviously.

btw Mufin, BB TE is a worse map. It even looks ugly http://repdepot.net/img/minimap/1024/531.jpg



Well, TE is the best imo because the mins are balanced. In normal bb i think 7 and 1 are worse than 5 and 1(especailly).

Mani, okay, fine, for the sake of time we'll play 3-4 games, if u win one ill write a poem about the evils of glitching and worker stack. if i win, you have to write a poem on how awesome my user name is. : D
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CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-02 03:27:46
July 02 2009 03:26 GMT
#58
lol again, you don't pay attention to details. If you looked at the map, I have fixed the slow gathering spots and even fixed some other minor things that you probably aren't even aware of.

And the minerals are so crappily placed in TE> even the guy who made the map (which I have known for like 8 years) agrees that the map is not that good.
http://repdepot.net/img/minimap/1024/783.jpg
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
July 02 2009 03:27 GMT
#59
I don't understand what you are trying to prove OP. You start the thread saying "Look at this dude who BM's me after I exploit to beat him." In you OP you even admit you know its an exploit that is banned.

Then in your thread when you get called out for exploiting vs somebody well known you turn it into YOU FUCKING SENSITIVE PUSSY NOOB I COULD 100-0 YOU ALL DAY YOU FAGGOT ASS.

And also, on BB you should pretty much always play safer, especially if you SCOUT the 5 pool >.<


If you want people to side with you, you should write a little more politely, and stop exploiting.
Ivs
Profile Joined January 2008
Australia139 Posts
July 02 2009 03:28 GMT
#60
You are bitching about how others are bitching about something you did wrong, at least they have a real reason. If you wanted to see what the opinion of the others are by blogging about it, I think you got a fairly accurate view so far. The more you bitch, the more others will, this isn't going to work in your favour under the pretense. Get over it.
Clow
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Brazil880 Posts
July 02 2009 03:30 GMT
#61
You cheated.
(–_–) CJ Entusman #33
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
July 02 2009 03:30 GMT
#62
Even though you probably don't deserve it here http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=57264
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27149 Posts
July 02 2009 03:32 GMT
#63
On July 02 2009 12:24 MuffiN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2009 12:18 CharlieMurphy wrote:
On July 02 2009 12:15 Dead9 wrote:
I always thought 4/5pool was a really weak build on blood bath? o_O
Everyone opens 8rax or double gate...

yea, it is- and they do. But if the guy is opening 10 rax or something then it rapes obviously.

btw Mufin, BB TE is a worse map. It even looks ugly http://repdepot.net/img/minimap/1024/531.jpg



Well, TE is the best imo because the mins are balanced. In normal bb i think 7 and 1 are worse than 5 and 1(especailly).

Mani, okay, fine, for the sake of time we'll play 3-4 games, if u win one ill write a poem about the evils of glitching and worker stack. if i win, you have to write a poem on how awesome my user name is. : D


Sounds good. Muffins are awesome, so that should be easy.
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MuffiN
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Korea (North)201 Posts
July 02 2009 03:34 GMT
#64
On July 02 2009 12:30 CharlieMurphy wrote:
Even though you probably don't deserve it here http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=57264


ive already read that guide quite extensively.thanks
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Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
July 02 2009 03:35 GMT
#65
On July 02 2009 12:30 CharlieMurphy wrote:
Even though you probably don't deserve it here http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=57264

Haha after all that, how nice of you.
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
July 02 2009 03:44 GMT
#66
did you use chaos at least
battle.net .. -shudder-
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
July 02 2009 03:46 GMT
#67
On July 02 2009 12:32 Manifesto7 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2009 12:24 MuffiN wrote:
On July 02 2009 12:18 CharlieMurphy wrote:
On July 02 2009 12:15 Dead9 wrote:
I always thought 4/5pool was a really weak build on blood bath? o_O
Everyone opens 8rax or double gate...

yea, it is- and they do. But if the guy is opening 10 rax or something then it rapes obviously.

btw Mufin, BB TE is a worse map. It even looks ugly http://repdepot.net/img/minimap/1024/531.jpg



Well, TE is the best imo because the mins are balanced. In normal bb i think 7 and 1 are worse than 5 and 1(especailly).

Mani, okay, fine, for the sake of time we'll play 3-4 games, if u win one ill write a poem about the evils of glitching and worker stack. if i win, you have to write a poem on how awesome my user name is. : D


Sounds good. Muffins are awesome, so that should be easy.

this implies you have the possibility of losing
MAN UP
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27149 Posts
July 02 2009 03:53 GMT
#68
On July 02 2009 12:46 HeavOnEarth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2009 12:32 Manifesto7 wrote:
On July 02 2009 12:24 MuffiN wrote:
On July 02 2009 12:18 CharlieMurphy wrote:
On July 02 2009 12:15 Dead9 wrote:
I always thought 4/5pool was a really weak build on blood bath? o_O
Everyone opens 8rax or double gate...

yea, it is- and they do. But if the guy is opening 10 rax or something then it rapes obviously.

btw Mufin, BB TE is a worse map. It even looks ugly http://repdepot.net/img/minimap/1024/531.jpg



Well, TE is the best imo because the mins are balanced. In normal bb i think 7 and 1 are worse than 5 and 1(especailly).

Mani, okay, fine, for the sake of time we'll play 3-4 games, if u win one ill write a poem about the evils of glitching and worker stack. if i win, you have to write a poem on how awesome my user name is. : D


Sounds good. Muffins are awesome, so that should be easy.

this implies you have the possibility of losing
MAN UP


Oh I'll win, but I might just write the poem anyway.
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MuffiN
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Korea (North)201 Posts
July 02 2009 03:56 GMT
#69
On July 02 2009 12:53 Manifesto7 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2009 12:46 HeavOnEarth wrote:
On July 02 2009 12:32 Manifesto7 wrote:
On July 02 2009 12:24 MuffiN wrote:
On July 02 2009 12:18 CharlieMurphy wrote:
On July 02 2009 12:15 Dead9 wrote:
I always thought 4/5pool was a really weak build on blood bath? o_O
Everyone opens 8rax or double gate...

yea, it is- and they do. But if the guy is opening 10 rax or something then it rapes obviously.

btw Mufin, BB TE is a worse map. It even looks ugly http://repdepot.net/img/minimap/1024/531.jpg



Well, TE is the best imo because the mins are balanced. In normal bb i think 7 and 1 are worse than 5 and 1(especailly).


Mani, okay, fine, for the sake of time we'll play 3-4 games, if u win one ill write a poem about the evils of glitching and worker stack. if i win, you have to write a poem on how awesome my user name is. : D


Sounds good. Muffins are awesome, so that should be easy.

this implies you have the possibility of losing
MAN UP


Oh I'll win, but I might just write the poem anyway.



i think, we should have day[9] commentate.
no name
ghostWriter
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3302 Posts
July 02 2009 04:03 GMT
#70
On July 02 2009 12:24 MuffiN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2009 12:18 CharlieMurphy wrote:
On July 02 2009 12:15 Dead9 wrote:
I always thought 4/5pool was a really weak build on blood bath? o_O
Everyone opens 8rax or double gate...

yea, it is- and they do. But if the guy is opening 10 rax or something then it rapes obviously.

btw Mufin, BB TE is a worse map. It even looks ugly http://repdepot.net/img/minimap/1024/531.jpg



Well, TE is the best imo because the mins are balanced. In normal bb i think 7 and 1 are worse than 5 and 1(especailly).

Mani, okay, fine, for the sake of time we'll play 3-4 games, if u win one ill write a poem about the evils of glitching and worker stack. if i win, you have to write a poem on how awesome my user name is. : D


Are you muffin-lzuruha?
Sullifam
MuffiN
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Korea (North)201 Posts
July 02 2009 04:10 GMT
#71
yes
no name
lac29
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1485 Posts
July 02 2009 04:46 GMT
#72
On July 02 2009 12:09 CharlieMurphy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2009 12:07 Newguy wrote:
sorry for my newbishness, but people stack workers when they maynard, when zvp z goes lings up the ramp and probe harasses don't many pro p players use probe stack then stop over the lings so they fuck up the lings and trap/kill some? is it only stacking like 10 and attacking the lings with them to kill thats cheating?

yea, we just explained that. It's different because the AI doesn't instant auto attack and they scatter around. The aformentioned scenario is more to delay and injure the units a little instead of the 'one-shot' rape that 7 stacked SCV can dish out on a ling.



How is this that much different from muta stack?
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66161 Posts
July 02 2009 04:51 GMT
#73
On July 02 2009 11:19 Manifesto7 wrote:
ROFL you were playing against CharlieMurphy, veteran of TL.net and one of the best bloodbath players. Search for his youtube videos on how to defend 4 pools.

Epic, epic fail.

This thread suddenly became legendary
POGGERS
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27149 Posts
July 02 2009 05:49 GMT
#74
On July 02 2009 13:46 lac29 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2009 12:09 CharlieMurphy wrote:
On July 02 2009 12:07 Newguy wrote:
sorry for my newbishness, but people stack workers when they maynard, when zvp z goes lings up the ramp and probe harasses don't many pro p players use probe stack then stop over the lings so they fuck up the lings and trap/kill some? is it only stacking like 10 and attacking the lings with them to kill thats cheating?

yea, we just explained that. It's different because the AI doesn't instant auto attack and they scatter around. The aformentioned scenario is more to delay and injure the units a little instead of the 'one-shot' rape that 7 stacked SCV can dish out on a ling.



How is this that much different from muta stack?


No land units normally stack. All air units normally stack.

Imagine if you could stack ultras or siege tanks...
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armed_
Profile Joined November 2008
Canada443 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-02 06:10:15
July 02 2009 06:10 GMT
#75
On July 02 2009 13:46 lac29 wrote:
How is this that much different from muta stack?

Permanent worker stacking totally breaks the game's balance, and if allowed, would make the metagame completely uninteresting. Muta stack does not.

It really doesn't have anything to do with how severe a glitch it is or anything, what's important is the effect it has on the game.
Etherone
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1898 Posts
July 02 2009 06:18 GMT
#76
wtf everyone is buddy buddy now? I wanted drama and ban hammers. lol jk, but i do think you should stream the games .
PokePill
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1048 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-02 06:55:46
July 02 2009 06:55 GMT
#77
On July 02 2009 10:56 MuffiN wrote:
Is this so bad to use on battle.net? If somebody is fucking 4pooling u on bloodbath, (fucking sad anyways) and u stack scvs cuase theres no other way to defend it is like charliemurhpy says 'fucking the same as multicommand' same as maphack? Please enlighten me. I know this bug is banned, however battle.net =/= iccup/progaming, u play for fun.

After the game, he starts crying and whispering while he is (DND) and tells me im a loser and stuff.

He has anger issues

REP: http://repdepot.net/replay.php?id=15973&key=0cd7aa


Am i wrong or is he just a overreacting little kid

P.S. Happy canada DAY!


You are playing on Battle.net, there are no rules, it is not a league or a tournament or a private ladder, you can do whatever you want within the limits of the game there are no rules to sanction what "bugs" are cheating and which aren't. Saying muta stacking is not cheating and saying worker stacking isn't is just hypocrisy even though Z balance relies entirely on a bug, it's Blizzard's own fault for keeping both bugs in the game. Doing this on iccup knowingly would definitely be cheating though.

Obviously posting here is a bad idea, just letting you know are in the right and it doesn't matter at ALL what bugs the community deems acceptable on Battle.net.
BanZu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3329 Posts
July 02 2009 07:05 GMT
#78
ROFL, everyone is hating SCV stacking so much.

I.. just don't understand it. It's not a big deal. Holy shit, it's not a BIG DEAL.

Get over yourselves. The first page makes me face-palm.
Sun Tzu once said, "Defiler becomes useless at the presences of a vessel."
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
July 02 2009 07:47 GMT
#79
On July 02 2009 16:05 BanZu wrote:
ROFL, everyone is hating SCV stacking so much.

I.. just don't understand it. It's not a big deal. Holy shit, it's not a BIG DEAL.

Get over yourselves. The first page makes me face-palm.

I can't tell if you're serious or not. If so, you need to read the thread again.

Also, LOL at anyone for complaining about 5pool on Blood Bath. That's like one of the most standard builds on the map for god's sake.
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7801 Posts
July 02 2009 08:30 GMT
#80
I'm only on page 2 but quit being a damn baby Muffin. You fucking cheated because you were sad you got 5 pooled. Which isn't even impossible to stop. Cry baby much? Jesus Christ. Just alt QQ
lac29
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1485 Posts
July 03 2009 01:11 GMT
#81
On July 02 2009 14:49 Manifesto7 wrote:

No land units normally stack. All air units normally stack.

Imagine if you could stack ultras or siege tanks...


Why don't we really see stacking of any other air units besides mutas then? Seems kinda silly to let one bug be ok but not something like SCV stack (which prob can easily be taken out by any microing ranged unit).
flag
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States228 Posts
July 03 2009 02:59 GMT
#82
it is lame and noob/cheating to worker stack, besides it is actually easy to defend 4 pool on blood bath (if you expect it, which you should)
flag
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States228 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-03 03:43:38
July 03 2009 03:37 GMT
#83
whoa, just noticed the OP poster was muffin, a person i have played against about 1 year ago and caught map hacking repeatedly. is it publicly known that he hacks? and i guess this means it is ok to worker stack for him since he cheats anyways...

proof is here: http://golfscript.com/temp/muffinhacks.zip
in rep 0016 he clicks my spawning pool which he cant see. i didnt see the rep in which i originally caught him (this was just a quick search for files with name muffin in them). he also does blatant stuff like moves units in response to my army coming into view in one of the PvP replays, but 1 second before he can see them...
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
July 03 2009 03:40 GMT
#84
On July 03 2009 10:11 lac29 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2009 14:49 Manifesto7 wrote:

No land units normally stack. All air units normally stack.

Imagine if you could stack ultras or siege tanks...


Why don't we really see stacking of any other air units besides mutas then? Seems kinda silly to let one bug be ok but not something like SCV stack (which prob can easily be taken out by any microing ranged unit).


We do see stacking of other units like Wraiths, but there generally isn't too much of a difference between a stacked corsair or an unstacked corsair.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
July 03 2009 03:43 GMT
#85
well sairs do splash so its not as useful, that is the main reason. But stacked sairs are still slightly better I think.

and flag, I wouldn't doubt it. But if its true then why the fuck would this idiot 10 rax vs a 5pool?
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
flag
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States228 Posts
July 03 2009 03:45 GMT
#86
On July 03 2009 12:43 CharlieMurphy wrote:
well sairs do splash so its not as useful, that is the main reason. But stacked sairs are still slightly better I think.

and flag, I wouldn't doubt it. But if its true then why the fuck would this idiot 10 rax vs a 5pool?


i havent watched that rep, but maybe he stopped hacking? it was a year ago... or maybe he was planning on worker stacking all along. also charlie are you up for some blood baths? i havent played seriously in a while but id like to get back into it
ghostWriter
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3302 Posts
July 03 2009 03:49 GMT
#87
On July 03 2009 10:11 lac29 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2009 14:49 Manifesto7 wrote:

No land units normally stack. All air units normally stack.

Imagine if you could stack ultras or siege tanks...


Why don't we really see stacking of any other air units besides mutas then? Seems kinda silly to let one bug be ok but not something like SCV stack (which prob can easily be taken out by any microing ranged unit).


Agreed. There's such a double standard. Allied mines is pretty much the same principle as stop lurkers and worker stack is similar to muta stack. Muta stack is pretty hard to face as a terran when all your marines are being eaten up one by one. And the only other air unit that is stacked is the wraith and it's only used in tvz. It's quite probable that every terran would trade a ban on wraith stack for muta stack any day.
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Vharox
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States1037 Posts
July 03 2009 06:43 GMT
#88
OMG CAN THIS PLEASE BE THE NEXT CHILL VS COMBAT-EX ???
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-03 06:49:40
July 03 2009 06:49 GMT
#89
I don't particularly like the idea of stacked air units either, but later in the game like this the stack can be dealt with more easily (splash damage and static de). When its this early in the game you can't really do anything about it.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
July 03 2009 06:52 GMT
#90
On July 03 2009 12:49 ghostWriter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2009 10:11 lac29 wrote:
On July 02 2009 14:49 Manifesto7 wrote:

No land units normally stack. All air units normally stack.

Imagine if you could stack ultras or siege tanks...


Why don't we really see stacking of any other air units besides mutas then? Seems kinda silly to let one bug be ok but not something like SCV stack (which prob can easily be taken out by any microing ranged unit).


Agreed. There's such a double standard. Allied mines is pretty much the same principle as stop lurkers and worker stack is similar to muta stack. Muta stack is pretty hard to face as a terran when all your marines are being eaten up one by one. And the only other air unit that is stacked is the wraith and it's only used in tvz. It's quite probable that every terran would trade a ban on wraith stack for muta stack any day.


How is that fair at all... If there was some way to make mines not attack without using the diplo box, it'd be fine, but you can't. If all your marines are being eaten up 1 by 1, you should read a guide on how to control your marines against mutas.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=64215

It's not hard at all.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
boesthius
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States11637 Posts
July 03 2009 06:56 GMT
#91
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s_86
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States191 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-03 07:19:45
July 03 2009 07:16 GMT
#92
There is nothing wrong with 5pool, what is this? 1999?
Also, saying that you only stacked workers because he went 5 pool is like, hackers who say they hack because everyone else hacks.
Although I must say CM really went a little overboard. I mean, what do you expect when you are playing on bnet? You should be glad he wasn't hacking at least (or was he?).

I must confess though, if I got 5pooled, I would be pretty pissed and if I knew how to stack workers against some random bnet pubbie... I just might (but I would know deep down that it was wrong of me to do so).

Bnet is completely different world from iccup, you just do whatever. I have allied mines on bnet, and observer over turret, and return cargo through zealot on ramp, just cause... well, you have to try it some time, you know? Cause you never get that chance on iccup. And come on, its allied mines!!
Batibot
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Philippines348 Posts
July 03 2009 14:18 GMT
#93
Don't pros do this stacking? Order all workers to mine the one patch that's in between 2 patches. Then order them 2 move on another patch? Doesn't the pros do this and the only way to fend off 4 pool?
Jaedong has to be a Bonjwa. Tired of of rooting for July.
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17727 Posts
July 03 2009 14:47 GMT
#94
learn to read the thread

what he did in that game was a bug which perm stacked his scv. When you stack on patch they unstack when you attack.
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