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So with an impressive record of 46 - 105 I have finally reached D+. The only reason I was able to get to D+ is because I decided to start practicing PvT since I was getting bored of playing PvP all the time. The only build that I have been playing is the 10/15 rush and I really like this build because of how aggressive it is. I like to constantly keep the Terran at bay so that they can never get too big as I expand. Usually, if I let the Terran macro up I will usually lose. I'm not very good as sizing up the Terran push compared to my units. Many times I have have my units in thinking I can take the push and then just end up getting totally destroyed. I guess this just comes with game sense.
I set up an alt account since I wanted to see how long it would take me to get to D+ again by playing PvP and PvT, not focusing on just one matchup. Currently I am 28.6% (2-5) in PvP and 52.9% (9-8) in PvT. I think its safe to assume that my PvP is around D while my PvT is just barely D+. Overall in my alt account I am 1672 with 11 wins and 14 losses. This isn't alot better then when I first started playing iCCup before the season changed but I know for a fact that I am better. If not for game knowledge then its just because my APM has doubled from when I first started playing. Also, I am finding that most of the games I lose are against C- or C players who have reset their stats or are still climbing the ranks. To be honest I have not been watching my replays, I have just been mass gaming on iCCup and I can usually pick out my flaws after I lose. Example: For some reason I have been teching up to DTs before I get my robotics in PvP. This is more risky, and I am finding that in order to do this more safely I must invest in a forge so I can get cannons to spot my opponents DTs. Like I said, I lost to DTs three or four times for me to realize this but I find this forceful way of learning to be more enjoyable.
On a side note I have played some games with people who have said that they have read this blog, which is pretty cool. Oh, and if for some reason somebody wants to know my alt account it is flow.of.sou1.
Edit: I just hit D+ again on my alt account with a record of 14 wins and 16 losses which is a winning rate of 47%. Now I must start learning PvZ... Damn I really don't want to memorize fast expand simcity layouts. I would go learn some older builds but from what I understand all older builds before Bisu suck.
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I've played you before, but yeah. Grats on making it to D+.
I love your persistence :D
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damn that's a lot of games :o
congrats, good job
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I wish I had the drive to play 150 games in a season. I don't even think I've played 150 games on iccup total
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Congrats, can I add you on my /f list? I like playing TvP and need a good opponent.
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On June 26 2009 02:59 il0seonpurpose wrote: Congrats, can I add you on my /f list? I like playing TvP and need a good opponent.
Sure, go for it.
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On June 26 2009 02:39 floor exercise wrote: I wish I had the drive to play 150 games in a season. I don't even think I've played 150 games on iccup total
same :/
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Congrats on making it to D+ man!
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On June 26 2009 02:39 floor exercise wrote: I wish I had the drive to play 150 games in a season. I don't even think I've played 150 games on iccup total
I don't wanna brag but first season I played iCCup I think I got 300 o_O tho nowadays it's way less like 40-50 lol
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Congrats on D+! Looks like your hard work really paying off. Keep at it!
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Gongratz man! Keep at it! I too tried very hard to reach D+ awhile ago, and these days I barely loose a game till I reach D+. Mass gaming is the way to go!
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Another protoss. Good job
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If you want above 90% win ratio PvT, dt rush.
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On June 26 2009 04:08 YPang wrote: If you want above 90% win ratio PvT, dt rush.
lol this man speaks the truth
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On June 26 2009 03:08 StorZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2009 02:39 floor exercise wrote: I wish I had the drive to play 150 games in a season. I don't even think I've played 150 games on iccup total same :/
Same here.
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On June 26 2009 04:08 YPang wrote: If you want above 90% win ratio PvT, dt rush.
rofl. THANK YOU
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i didnt know it was even possible to rank up with a 30% win ratio
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On June 26 2009 04:33 Wurzelbrumpft wrote: i didnt know it was even possible to rank up with a 30% win ratio
It is if you're protoss and accidentally beat better players (terrans) with your remarkable 1a2a3a mechanics or dt rushes of any kind. This of course involves loosing alot of random games to anyone because you basically suck.
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On June 26 2009 04:40 Foucault wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2009 04:33 Wurzelbrumpft wrote: i didnt know it was even possible to rank up with a 30% win ratio It is if you're protoss and accidentally beat better players (terrans) with your remarkable 1a2a3a mechanics or dt rushes of any kind. This of course involves loosing alot of random games to anyone because you basically suck.
I love the amount of Protoss hate from people who actually think they're over powered.
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On June 26 2009 04:40 Foucault wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2009 04:33 Wurzelbrumpft wrote: i didnt know it was even possible to rank up with a 30% win ratio It is if you're protoss and accidentally beat better players (terrans) with your remarkable 1a2a3a mechanics or dt rushes of any kind. This of course involves loosing alot of random games to anyone because you basically suck.
Dude, you have Vultures, stop crying.
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On June 26 2009 04:40 Foucault wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2009 04:33 Wurzelbrumpft wrote: i didnt know it was even possible to rank up with a 30% win ratio It is if you're protoss and accidentally beat better players (terrans) with your remarkable 1a2a3a mechanics or dt rushes of any kind. This of course involves loosing alot of random games to anyone because you basically suck.
Thanks for the compliment
I'm starting to think that alot of Terran users at the D level are just dumb and thats why they lose to Protoss. I just played a game where the Terran attacked me without sieging his siege tanks and he only had siege tanks and marines (like 10 tanks and 4 marines). Also a good amount of Terran's do not wall in, and they place their tank in range of my dragoons if they do wall in. I also played a game where a Terran let me kill his command center with my dragoons that were out of range from his tanks, he did not even lift it off.
And as somebody pointed out Terran has the vulture, and with the correct placement of spider mines can really screw over protoss. I cant tell you how many games I lost because I didnt see the vulture's place mines on their ramp. Four dragoons, instantly dead.
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On June 26 2009 04:33 Wurzelbrumpft wrote: i didnt know it was even possible to rank up with a 30% win ratio
Actually if you did something like simple math it works out just fine.
If you play only on MOTW (likely) it's 130 points for a win and 50 points for a loss. That means you have to lose 3 times for every win to lose points.
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There's such a HUGE skill gap between D level Terran players and C level Terran players, larger than for any other race. D terrans are ez, C terran are wtfhard.
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On June 26 2009 05:59 Seraphim wrote: There's such a HUGE skill gap between D level Terran players and C level Terran players, larger than for any other race. D terrans are ez, C terran are wtfhard.
What this man meant to say is Terran as a whole are easy, but the D rank Terran expect every game to be no rush 15.
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PvZ at D is probably your easiest matchup so good luck with that
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yeah terrans get owned PvT at D levels, while not so good protoss users can reach C pretty easily at least in PvT. However the terrans at C and above are much better than D level.
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Whats with all you newb terran's losing to DT rush? Like are you tards who bitch and are too stupid to make an ebay if you dont make mines? Wth. Us protoss love to fuck eachother with DTs and thus we learn the timings after losing. If your loss rate is 90% vs DTs you have some serious learning disability going on in your brain.
On June 26 2009 06:14 kNyTTyM wrote: PvZ at D is probably your easiest matchup so good luck with that
Nah shit terran easiest thing in the world. Shit zerg can actually stop 1 gate zealot and cheese you if you FE crappily. No hope for shit Terran.
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On June 26 2009 06:20 Foucault wrote: yeah terrans get owned PvT at D levels, while not so good protoss users can reach C pretty easily at least in PvT. However the terrans at C and above are much better than D level.
Yeah I played a korean terran that was C last season and I was getting simultaneously dropped and stuff. I just could not keep up at all.
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On June 26 2009 04:47 GoShox wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2009 04:40 Foucault wrote:On June 26 2009 04:33 Wurzelbrumpft wrote: i didnt know it was even possible to rank up with a 30% win ratio It is if you're protoss and accidentally beat better players (terrans) with your remarkable 1a2a3a mechanics or dt rushes of any kind. This of course involves loosing alot of random games to anyone because you basically suck. Dude, you have Vultures, stop crying.
lol k
and you have carriers that kill shit in the blink of an eye, arbiters that make your units invisible, stasis that can immobilize an opponents entire army, psionic storm, reavers, invisible ninjas.
Half of terrans units aren't even viable in TvP
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On June 26 2009 06:30 Flow.of.soul wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2009 06:20 Foucault wrote: yeah terrans get owned PvT at D levels, while not so good protoss users can reach C pretty easily at least in PvT. However the terrans at C and above are much better than D level. Yeah I played a korean terran that was C last season and I was getting simultaneously dropped and stuff. I just could not keep up at all.
Yeah it's at those skill levels and above that APM/multitasking starts to make a big difference
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On June 26 2009 06:31 Foucault wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2009 04:47 GoShox wrote:On June 26 2009 04:40 Foucault wrote:On June 26 2009 04:33 Wurzelbrumpft wrote: i didnt know it was even possible to rank up with a 30% win ratio It is if you're protoss and accidentally beat better players (terrans) with your remarkable 1a2a3a mechanics or dt rushes of any kind. This of course involves loosing alot of random games to anyone because you basically suck. Dude, you have Vultures, stop crying. lol k and you have carriers that kill shit in the blink of an eye, arbiters that make your units invisible, stasis that can immobilize an opponents entire army, psionic storm, reavers, invisible ninjas. Half of terrans units aren't even viable in TvP
I must admit, this troll is mildly effective at being annoying.
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Ya it's like you gotta make the right units to fight against the expensive units Protoss is making. BW so hard cant make tank/vulture till 200/200 blindy and expect to win.
Well I guess you could if P just made Goon/zeal till 200/200 as well, but not teching is newb for any race? Carriers are great when Terran misses their timing and falls for your delay ploys, other than that it's not a kill shit in blink of an eye when it takes ages for them to come. Plenty of time to build an anti-carrier force and continue to fight.
Also vessels for pretty much everything else you said. Except reavers, in which case read about delay ploy for carriers.
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On June 26 2009 06:33 HuskyTheHusky wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2009 06:31 Foucault wrote:On June 26 2009 04:47 GoShox wrote:On June 26 2009 04:40 Foucault wrote:On June 26 2009 04:33 Wurzelbrumpft wrote: i didnt know it was even possible to rank up with a 30% win ratio It is if you're protoss and accidentally beat better players (terrans) with your remarkable 1a2a3a mechanics or dt rushes of any kind. This of course involves loosing alot of random games to anyone because you basically suck. Dude, you have Vultures, stop crying. lol k and you have carriers that kill shit in the blink of an eye, arbiters that make your units invisible, stasis that can immobilize an opponents entire army, psionic storm, reavers, invisible ninjas. Half of terrans units aren't even viable in TvP I must admit, this troll is mildly effective at being annoying. +1...
Anyway, congrats on D+! I'm D+ currently, C- high, so going to C this season. Come game with me sometime! My iCC ID is Grobyc as well.
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On June 26 2009 04:40 Foucault wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2009 04:33 Wurzelbrumpft wrote: i didnt know it was even possible to rank up with a 30% win ratio It is if you're protoss and accidentally beat better players (terrans) with your remarkable 1a2a3a mechanics or dt rushes of any kind. This of course involves loosing alot of random games to anyone because you basically suck.
You realize this has NOTHING to do with what you quoted
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congratulations mate! that sure is a lot of games! for me my record is almost 90 games within one season^^(b-)
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On June 26 2009 06:33 HuskyTheHusky wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2009 06:31 Foucault wrote:On June 26 2009 04:47 GoShox wrote:On June 26 2009 04:40 Foucault wrote:On June 26 2009 04:33 Wurzelbrumpft wrote: i didnt know it was even possible to rank up with a 30% win ratio It is if you're protoss and accidentally beat better players (terrans) with your remarkable 1a2a3a mechanics or dt rushes of any kind. This of course involves loosing alot of random games to anyone because you basically suck. Dude, you have Vultures, stop crying. lol k and you have carriers that kill shit in the blink of an eye, arbiters that make your units invisible, stasis that can immobilize an opponents entire army, psionic storm, reavers, invisible ninjas. Half of terrans units aren't even viable in TvP I must admit, this troll is mildly effective at being annoying. yeah he is ;P and I play Terran.
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On June 26 2009 06:31 Foucault wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2009 04:47 GoShox wrote:On June 26 2009 04:40 Foucault wrote:On June 26 2009 04:33 Wurzelbrumpft wrote: i didnt know it was even possible to rank up with a 30% win ratio It is if you're protoss and accidentally beat better players (terrans) with your remarkable 1a2a3a mechanics or dt rushes of any kind. This of course involves loosing alot of random games to anyone because you basically suck. Dude, you have Vultures, stop crying. lol k and you have carriers that kill shit in the blink of an eye, arbiters that make your units invisible, stasis that can immobilize an opponents entire army, psionic storm, reavers, invisible ninjas. Half of terrans units aren't even viable in TvP holy shit 3/3 200/200 terran ball fucking scary
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On June 26 2009 06:30 MiniRoman wrote:Whats with all you newb terran's losing to DT rush? Like are you tards who bitch and are too stupid to make an ebay if you dont make mines? Wth. Us protoss love to fuck eachother with DTs and thus we learn the timings after losing. If your loss rate is 90% vs DTs you have some serious learning disability going on in your brain. Show nested quote +On June 26 2009 06:14 kNyTTyM wrote: PvZ at D is probably your easiest matchup so good luck with that Nah shit terran easiest thing in the world. Shit zerg can actually stop 1 gate zealot and cheese you if you FE crappily. No hope for shit Terran.
take that artosis!
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On June 26 2009 06:33 HuskyTheHusky wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2009 06:31 Foucault wrote:Half of terrans units aren't even viable in TvP I must admit, this troll is mildly effective at being annoying.
Well, he's kinda right. 95% of pvt is 4 unit types, maybe 6 if u count the 5 marines and wraith to stop shuttle.
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lol you toss need to stop complaining.
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gl with pvz hardest matchup for protoss imo
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Great determination ;o
Keep it up! Wouldn't mind playing ZvP or TvP with you, just started playing Z. As for my TvP, it's terribad.
VERY BAD.
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I could own people hard in PvT, doesn't matter I've only played it like 5 times ever. TvP is another thing completely
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