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Short and simple for a first blog, I'll probably extrapolate on this idea later, but here is the gist.
Terran = Stylish. FPVOD's, Build orders, and an FAQ
Protoss = Well, toss doesn't need as much help, but oystein started around the same time as stylish, and thats good enough.
Now, answer me this, what thread or resource would you recommend to your aspiring zerg player, prior to liquipedia? Thats right, Day[9]'s podcasts. Now, this is strictly opinion, but I personally have never managed to make it too far into one of his podcasts without getting really, really bored. Am I the only one? I don't play zerg mind you, but you be the judge.
 
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woot look at all those zvx matchups 
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I don't get bored during his podcasts.. ;o
but i do agree someone needs to make a more detailed guide for zergs just like stylish's with fpvods and replays instead of just walls of text.
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I play protoss and I make it through his non-race specific podcasts just fine
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United States1865 Posts
Ahzz has some pretty good Zerg FPVODs
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Hmm, if I remember Day[9] only has 2 zerg-specific podcasts. He does a really good job giving examples for how to apply his lessons for each race.
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Yeah go check out Ahzz's vids... though he his study materials are older than Stylish's. My friend also is a fanatic for Ret's FPVOD stream, so check it out too. I think it's on right now.
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Day[9] is pimp and I don't get bored of his podcasts. If anything, I find them really entertaining. I still lose at ZvT (mech) so they might not have helped me too much.
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Well these days, Liquipedia should be just fine. However, DAy[9]'s podcasts are helpful to all 3 races, and its better if they have a good understanding of the game, beacuse that way they will know what do in any match up!
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Oystein also makes Zerg fpVODs.
Smi.lols(w3jjjj) has made a number of high quality guides for Zerg, Ahzz has a lot of fpVODs on his youtube. In the strategy forum you have Attackzerg, smi.lols, Cloud and others responding to help threads.
And you get bored during Day[9]'s audios? 
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Like I said, I wouldn't know. I've seen a lot of people say that Day[9] was the stylish and oystein of zerg. And it still doesn't really explain how there are so many ZvX concepts that even I've heard covered at one point in time or another.
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If anything I thought that zerg had the best coverage. Ahzz's ultimate zerg guide does a pretty good job of covering most topics other than the recent innovations of 3 hatch spire builds in zvp and 2 hatch builds in zvt, which each have their own recent in depth guides. Other than that you have a lot of random guides like Stryker's guide on improving ZvT, Superiorwolf's guide on adapting ZvP, and probably a few others I missed in addition to day9's podcasts. Plus Ahzz's and Chill's fpvods.
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Well this is assuming that there are equal numbers of Terran, Protoss, and Zerg users, or relatively similar.
for example, in this very thread there are even more zerg users than terran/protoss combined.
Thus a silly poll which doesn't really prove anything unless the numbers are absurd ~!
Poll: What race do you play?
(Vote): Zerg
(Vote): Terran
(Vote): Protoss
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I like his casts fine.
It depends on your attitude. He tries to promote a learning mentality, rather than just 'here's the answers.' If you're waiting for the answers, you'll probably get bored listening to him.
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If you get bored listening to them, I'm transcribing them all into text and should have them all up in a couple of weeks (depending on how lazy/busy I am).
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On June 24 2009 05:12 HeavOnEarth wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Well this is assuming that there are equal numbers of Terran, Protoss, and Zerg users, or relatively similar. for example, in this very thread there are even more zerg users than terran/protoss combined. Thus a silly poll which doesn't really prove anything unless the numbers are absurd ~! Poll: What race do you play?( Vote): Zerg ( Vote): Terran ( Vote): Protoss
Using TL as a sample population assuming most people use their real race for icons:
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United States17042 Posts
huh, where did you grab the race icon data?
and, incidentally, the zerg section on liquipedia needs the most work. I think that a lot of the problem with teaching zerg is that making units necessarily means cutting drone production, which makes it so that to play zerg well, you need to learn how to cut drones well first.
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On June 24 2009 05:40 o3.power91 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2009 05:12 HeavOnEarth wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Well this is assuming that there are equal numbers of Terran, Protoss, and Zerg users, or relatively similar. for example, in this very thread there are even more zerg users than terran/protoss combined. Thus a silly poll which doesn't really prove anything unless the numbers are absurd ~! Poll: What race do you play?( Vote): Zerg ( Vote): Terran ( Vote): Protoss Using TL as a sample population assuming most people use their real race for icons:
I feel that a lot of new users fail to change their races, leaving it at SCV. :/
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On June 24 2009 05:46 GHOSTCLAW wrote:
huh, where did you grab the race icon data?
This is from the groups in the miscellaneous section of Fantasy PL. Also as stated in post above the above post, most new members do leave their icons as the SCV so it can't really be that reliable...
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Bosnia-Herzegovina1437 Posts
On June 24 2009 05:12 HeavOnEarth wrote:Well this is assuming that there are equal numbers of Terran, Protoss, and Zerg users, or relatively similar. for example, in this very thread there are even more zerg users than terran/protoss combined. Thus a silly poll which doesn't really prove anything unless the numbers are absurd ~! Poll: What race do you play?( Vote): Zerg ( Vote): Terran ( Vote): Protoss
What about random :X?
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It's true that I'm pretty much as good (or bad rather, since I suck) with terran as I am with zerg despite barely ever playing as terran. I think the main reason for that is the amount of info I've been able to get for terran. Zerg definitely have to learn on their own a bit more (of course there is some help, but not as much as there is for T or P).
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On June 24 2009 06:35 Hammy wrote:
It's true that I'm pretty much as good (or bad rather, since I suck) with terran as I am with zerg despite barely ever playing as terran. I think the main reason for that is the amount of info I've been able to get for terran. Zerg definitely have to learn on their own a bit more (of course there is some help, but not as much as there is for T or P).
And I would never try to argue that the dynamic of T and P isn't far, far different from Z. Someone recently wrote a 2 hatch muta guide that made the most sense to me thus far as a non Z user. The thing that doesn't seem to get covered much is how builds adapt to meet the build your facing. A simple example is the 9-minute push for terran is the same up until near the time you want your factory, 3 hatch = factory, 2 hatch = rax. it's stuff like that which i feel leaves zerg users in the dark, because if a terran adapts properly, I see most zergs immediately respond "oh fuck need hive tech" and it creates a painfully big timing window that I exploit repeatedly.
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On June 24 2009 06:17 Clasic wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2009 05:12 HeavOnEarth wrote:Well this is assuming that there are equal numbers of Terran, Protoss, and Zerg users, or relatively similar. for example, in this very thread there are even more zerg users than terran/protoss combined. Thus a silly poll which doesn't really prove anything unless the numbers are absurd ~! Poll: What race do you play?( Vote): Zerg ( Vote): Terran ( Vote): Protoss What about random :X?
Random isn't a race.
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At first I read through every Zerg thread in the recommonded list in the strategy forum. After that, I just followed through by watching progamer vods.
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I look to non korean zergs for possiblities and pro gamers for precision.
For instance I have watched hundreds of ret and mondragon replays to get a feel of what they can do with zerg( as a way of understanding the farthest limit of my potetential in my best single game) and I look to pro gamers Jaedong,Effort,Julyzerg,Yellow[arnc] for the excucution and builds of what is currently in vogue by the strongest zergs.
I think finding a favorite player/play style is the key to truly falling in love with broodwar, I feel in love with h.o.t-forever and then [nc]...yellow and then julyzerg, so for years I loved low eco play, then I saw blackman, 0gogo and oversky make 50 drones and drop hydra/lurker/ling and fell in love with that and so on and so forth. Currently my favorite ZvP style on the planet is actually eg.machine his 4 hat hydra openings are very strong and smart and set up for a very strong lategame. His playstyle is centered around 4-5 base - 4 gas into hive and from the first moments of the game he is pacing for that.
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But I thought Machine was terrible ![[image loading]](http://209.85.62.26/12390/191/emo/confused.gif)
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