• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 10:13
CEST 16:13
KST 23:13
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End6Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7
Community News
GSTL Returns in 2026!43Weekly Cups (Aug 3-9): Protoss get shut out7RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-2212Weekly Cups (July 27-Aug 2): SHIN's big week0SC4ALL II: Brood War - $2500 - Dec 5-611
StarCraft 2
General
GSTL Returns in 2026! Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) SC4ALL: II Talent Announcement! Protoss AoE skill expression Weekly Cups (Aug 3-9): Protoss get shut out
Tourneys
PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August) WardiTV Mondays 2026 KungFu Cup Announcement Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament 2026 GSTL Announcement
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 539 Thunder Dome Mutation # 538 Media Blackout Mutation # 537 Hostile Territory
Brood War
General
Rush's Odyssey Controversy [ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End BW General Discussion StarCraft 64 is coming to Philly at SC4ALL II Best Games Kespa era
Tourneys
Small VOD Thread 2.0 [ASL22] Ro24 Group A CSLAN 4 is Coming! ASL Season 22 LIVESTREAM with English Commentary
Strategy
Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Fighting Spirit mining rates Any training maps people recommend? Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Anyone here play Quakeworld back in the day? Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread EVE Corporation
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
Artificial Intelligence Thread US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread The Letting Off Steam Thread
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread Series you have seen recently...
Sports
MLB/Baseball 2023 Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
LOCKPICKING NOOB
LUCKY_NOOB
Chinese Gen Z: Between Dream…
TrAiDoS
Cathedral Of CS And NY pizza a…
FuDDx
Please support my new stand…
Peanutsc
Hello guys!
LIN1s
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 8735 users

Race Pickers and Their Mentors

Blogs > merach
Post a Reply
1 2 Next All
merach
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States182 Posts
June 23 2009 19:39 GMT
#1
Short and simple for a first blog, I'll probably extrapolate on this idea later, but here is the gist.

Terran = Stylish. FPVOD's, Build orders, and an FAQ

Protoss = Well, toss doesn't need as much help, but oystein started around the same time as stylish, and thats good enough.

Now, answer me this, what thread or resource would you recommend to your aspiring zerg player, prior to liquipedia? Thats right, Day[9]'s podcasts. Now, this is strictly opinion, but I personally have never managed to make it too far into one of his podcasts without getting really, really bored. Am I the only one? I don't play zerg mind you, but you be the judge.

[image loading]


*
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13921 Posts
June 23 2009 19:44 GMT
#2
woot look at all those zvx matchups
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
ilovejonn
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada2548 Posts
June 23 2009 19:46 GMT
#3
I don't get bored during his podcasts.. ;o

but i do agree someone needs to make a more detailed guide for zergs just like stylish's with fpvods and replays instead of just walls of text.
Snowflakes in January, Heart warm like February, I wouldn't ordinarily..
demonic_phate
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States442 Posts
June 23 2009 19:47 GMT
#4
I play protoss and I make it through his non-race specific podcasts just fine
BusyP
Atrioc
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States1866 Posts
June 23 2009 19:50 GMT
#5
Ahzz has some pretty good Zerg FPVODs

Writerman what
Ranix
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States666 Posts
June 23 2009 19:52 GMT
#6
Hmm, if I remember Day[9] only has 2 zerg-specific podcasts. He does a really good job giving examples for how to apply his lessons for each race.
Legends never gg
EchOne
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2906 Posts
June 23 2009 19:56 GMT
#7
Yeah go check out Ahzz's vids... though he his study materials are older than Stylish's. My friend also is a fanatic for Ret's FPVOD stream, so check it out too. I think it's on right now.
面白くない世の中, 面白くすればいいさ
Durak
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada3685 Posts
June 23 2009 19:56 GMT
#8
Day[9] is pimp and I don't get bored of his podcasts. If anything, I find them really entertaining. I still lose at ZvT (mech) so they might not have helped me too much.
Sonu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada577 Posts
June 23 2009 19:56 GMT
#9
Well these days, Liquipedia should be just fine. However, DAy[9]'s podcasts are helpful to all 3 races, and its better if they have a good understanding of the game, beacuse that way they will know what do in any match up!
"I really like this wall-in, because its not a fucking wall" - DAy[9]
Dreadwave
Profile Joined January 2008
Netherlands254 Posts
June 23 2009 19:57 GMT
#10
Oystein also makes Zerg fpVODs.

Smi.lols(w3jjjj) has made a number of high quality guides for Zerg, Ahzz has a lot of fpVODs on his youtube. In the strategy forum you have Attackzerg, smi.lols, Cloud and others responding to help threads.

And you get bored during Day[9]'s audios?
merach
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States182 Posts
June 23 2009 20:02 GMT
#11
Like I said, I wouldn't know. I've seen a lot of people say that Day[9] was the stylish and oystein of zerg. And it still doesn't really explain how there are so many ZvX concepts that even I've heard covered at one point in time or another.
Neon_Monkey
Profile Joined February 2008
United States270 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-23 20:04:16
June 23 2009 20:03 GMT
#12
If anything I thought that zerg had the best coverage. Ahzz's ultimate zerg guide does a pretty good job of covering most topics other than the recent innovations of 3 hatch spire builds in zvp and 2 hatch builds in zvt, which each have their own recent in depth guides. Other than that you have a lot of random guides like Stryker's guide on improving ZvT, Superiorwolf's guide on adapting ZvP, and probably a few others I missed in addition to day9's podcasts. Plus Ahzz's and Chill's fpvods.
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
June 23 2009 20:12 GMT
#13
Well this is assuming that there are equal numbers of Terran, Protoss, and Zerg users, or relatively similar.

for example, in this very thread there are even more zerg users than terran/protoss combined.

Thus a silly poll which doesn't really prove anything unless the numbers are absurd ~!
[image loading]

Poll: What race do you play?
(Vote): Zerg
(Vote): Terran
(Vote): Protoss

"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
June 23 2009 20:13 GMT
#14
I like his casts fine.

It depends on your attitude. He tries to promote a learning mentality, rather than just 'here's the answers.' If you're waiting for the answers, you'll probably get bored listening to him.
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17077 Posts
June 23 2009 20:27 GMT
#15
If you get bored listening to them, I'm transcribing them all into text and should have them all up in a couple of weeks (depending on how lazy/busy I am).
Moderator
o3.power91
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Bahrain5288 Posts
June 23 2009 20:40 GMT
#16
On June 24 2009 05:12 HeavOnEarth wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Well this is assuming that there are equal numbers of Terran, Protoss, and Zerg users, or relatively similar.

for example, in this very thread there are even more zerg users than terran/protoss combined.

Thus a silly poll which doesn't really prove anything unless the numbers are absurd ~!
[image loading]

Poll: What race do you play?
(Vote): Zerg
(Vote): Terran
(Vote): Protoss


Using TL as a sample population assuming most people use their real race for icons:
[image loading]
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
June 23 2009 20:46 GMT
#17
huh, where did you grab the race icon data?

and, incidentally, the zerg section on liquipedia needs the most work. I think that a lot of the problem with teaching zerg is that making units necessarily means cutting drone production, which makes it so that to play zerg well, you need to learn how to cut drones well first.
PhotographerLiquipedia. Drop me a pm if you've got questions/need help.
BanZu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3329 Posts
June 23 2009 20:46 GMT
#18
On June 24 2009 05:40 o3.power91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2009 05:12 HeavOnEarth wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Well this is assuming that there are equal numbers of Terran, Protoss, and Zerg users, or relatively similar.

for example, in this very thread there are even more zerg users than terran/protoss combined.

Thus a silly poll which doesn't really prove anything unless the numbers are absurd ~!
[image loading]

Poll: What race do you play?
(Vote): Zerg
(Vote): Terran
(Vote): Protoss


Using TL as a sample population assuming most people use their real race for icons:
[image loading]

I feel that a lot of new users fail to change their races, leaving it at SCV. :/
Sun Tzu once said, "Defiler becomes useless at the presences of a vessel."
Patriot.dlk
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Sweden5462 Posts
June 23 2009 20:48 GMT
#19
his cast are great
o3.power91
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Bahrain5288 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-23 20:50:39
June 23 2009 20:50 GMT
#20
On June 24 2009 05:46 GHOSTCLAW wrote:
huh, where did you grab the race icon data?

This is from the groups in the miscellaneous section of Fantasy PL. Also as stated in post above the above post, most new members do leave their icons as the SCV so it can't really be that reliable...
1 2 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
WardiTV Weekly
11:00
WardiTV Mondays #100
IntoTheiNu 1171
WardiTV961
TKL 246
Rex155
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
TKL 246
Rex 155
BRAT_OK 79
SHIN 24
RushiSC 18
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 7882
Shuttle 1466
Mini 1442
BeSt 834
EffOrt 790
Soulkey 687
Stork 451
Soma 395
Larva 219
ggaemo 188
[ Show more ]
Mong 172
Snow 140
Hyun 100
Pusan 86
Mind 70
sSak 55
Sexy 43
Bale 27
sorry 22
zelot 17
Noble 10
Terrorterran 10
Icarus 8
Dota 2
Gorgc8760
Dendi2249
qojqva1719
BananaSlamJamma350
Counter-Strike
markeloff120
edward5
Other Games
singsing1981
hiko808
B2W.Neo508
Lowko418
crisheroes316
Liquid`VortiX213
Hui .174
RotterdaM97
QueenE66
Livibee50
Mew2King50
ArmadaUGS26
amsayoshi23
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
Kim Chul Min (afreeca) 9
[ Show 11 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV865
League of Legends
• Jankos914
• TFBlade659
Upcoming Events
The Patches Monday
1h 47m
Afreeca Starleague
19h 47m
Sharp vs Shinee
Action vs Shine
GSL
20h 47m
PiGosaur Cup
1d 9h
Replay Cast
1d 18h
Afreeca Starleague
1d 19h
BeSt vs Paralyze
Jaedong vs Speed
Kung Fu Cup
1d 20h
Replay Cast
2 days
The PondCast
2 days
KCM Race Survival
2 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
PiG Sty Festival
3 days
CranKy Ducklings
4 days
PiG Sty Festival
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
PiG Sty Festival
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSLAN 4
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
RSL Revival: Season 6
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
META DYMY #4
Esports World Cup 2026
Esports World Cup 2026: LCQ
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026

Upcoming

CSL Season 22: Qualifier 1
Escore Tournament S3: W8
CSL Season 22: Qualifier 2
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Acropolis #5 - TRS
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.