• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 19:50
CEST 01:50
KST 08:50
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners6Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview5[ASL21] Finals Preview: Two Legacies21
Community News
Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28)6[BSL22] Non-Korean Championship from 13 to 28 June3Weekly Cups (May 25-31): Clem doubles, 2v2 circuit heads toward finale0StarCraft II 5.0.16 PTR Patch Notes may 26th153Weekly Cups (May 18-24): MaxPax wins doubles0
StarCraft 2
General
StarCraft II 5.0.16 PTR Patch Notes may 26th Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners TL Poll: How do you feel about the 5.0.16 PTR balance changes? TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection Oliveira Would Have Returned If EWC Continued
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28) Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule ! Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) GSL Code S Season 2 (2026)
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 529 Opportunities Unleashed Mutation # 528 Infection Detected Welcome to the External Content forum
Brood War
General
vespene.gg — BW replays in browser [BSL22] Non-Korean Championship from 13 to 28 June The Korean Terminology Thread Data needed Quality of life changes in BW that you will like ?
Tourneys
[ASL21] Grand Finals [BSL22] Grand Finals - Sunday 21:00 CEST [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2
Strategy
Why doesn't anyone use restoration? Any training maps people recommend? Muta micro map competition [G] Hydra ZvZ: An Introduction
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread PC Games Sales Thread ZeroSpace Megathread Summer Games Done Quick 2026!
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Trading/Investing Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion [Manga] One Piece
Sports
Cricket [SPORT] TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 2024 - 2026 Football Thread NBA General Discussion McBoner: A hockey love story
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Facing Challenges in Mobile App Development
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
How Streaming Impacts Game P…
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
Why RTS gamers make better f…
gosubay
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 10998 users

[book] Sophie's World (+ philosophical ranting) - Page 2

Blogs > Xusneb
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 All
Weaponx3
Profile Joined January 2009
Canada232 Posts
June 22 2009 03:40 GMT
#21
lies offer to treat symptons of the problem you will never truly be healed or satisfied, the truth offers to treat the true underlying causes of the problem... that is why igonarance is bliss
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
June 22 2009 04:01 GMT
#22
So what's the solution? Suicide? That's probably not right because then I'm hurting myself with my action. Hrm, "enjoy life by trying to help others"?
If you really believe the statement you made, yes.

Otherwise, time for you to make a new statement and try to put some nuance in there.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
June 22 2009 06:24 GMT
#23
weaponx3 LOL
faseman
Profile Joined April 2009
Australia215 Posts
June 22 2009 07:09 GMT
#24
I kind of skim read this thread, sorry.

Life has no purpose. You have to give it meaning! Do what you enjoy, joke with friends, meet girls, gain a rank in IcCup. Whatever the fuck gives you some enjoyment is what you should be doing!



Weaponx3 gives me a headache. Is there an ignore button?
KurtistheTurtle
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1966 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-22 08:00:43
June 22 2009 07:49 GMT
#25
I read that book two years-ish ago. I thought about some of the same questions ever since. But I came to completely different answers about life than you from the get-go

Broad shit
-When you die, you cease to exist. No happiness, no pain, just nothing. If there is an afterlife I'll be pleasantly surprised
-Dying is fine as long as I'm fulfilled.
-if people start fucking on my kitchen table (or garden or w/e they did), then I'm kicking them the hell out of my house.

Specifics
-Human thoughts are a real force to be reckoned with. You can't see them, but they have real physical results.
-Human desire is a part of nature. It's a natural force and humans are part of a special niche that must be balanced with everything else.

On happiness and life in general
-Happiness comes through the filter in which you view the world.
-Happiness can be aided or hindered by connections with other people, specifically the opposite sex.
-You must have personal boundaries (the fucking on the table in the broad thing). To not have them is to not be a person.
-You must define these boundaries yourself, guided by society (includes family, friends, role models, etc.)
-Everything will change. Welcome it. Everything is temporary.

I'm still not fulfilled, and I haven't defined all my personal boundaries. Some things in my life still control me, but I'm working on them. These are most of my major philosophical thoughts in a nutshell

[edit: each one of these statements has much more latent meaning than what somebody just reading posts on tl would initially read into, so I'll explain the "You must have personal boundaries" one]

I'm stealing the wording of this idea from dune: the power to destroy something is absolute power over it. When somebody asks you to do something (simple as a friend asks you to go out to eat), you either have choices as determined by your personal boundary (and other factors like money/transportation but this is just an example) or you don't. If you don't have a personal boundary, or clearly self-defined values of things you find permissible and things you don't, then you have no power to say no. If you have the power to say no and destroy the future experience of going out to eat, then you have control over it.

If you're the kind of person who just goes along with shit, just because, and when somebody asks you "what do you wanna do?" and you go "I dunno" a lot, then you lack these personal boundaries. This applies to every single decision of everybody's life. Everybody's life is really just a sum of the decisions that's led them to that point.

Ok well actually going out to eat was a bad example, but if you can grasp what I'm saying then its all good.
“Reject your sense of injury and the injury itself disappears."
MoltkeWarding
Profile Joined November 2003
5195 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-22 12:49:39
June 22 2009 12:22 GMT
#26
On June 22 2009 10:48 -fj. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2009 10:40 zulu_nation8 wrote:
not omniscient, objective


Yeah, you're probably right.


We are suffering from semantic confusion, but I take objectivity to be the scientific ideal of separation of subject and object, practised in the scientific method. Objectivism historically seen, a neoplatonic, systematic, rationalist approach to reality which largely displaced the aristotilean/empirical scholasticism of the late middle ages, between the time of Copernicus and Max Planck, and reaching its apex sometime during the 19th century.

Two questions relating to the present applicability of objective thinking:
1) If objectivism, for our relationship with matter only, or also for our relationship with other men? and 2) Do you accept the Copenhagen Interpretation of quantum mechanics?

The former question relates to the differences between physical and social science.
The latter deals with the relevance of the objective method to all science.



A final question, even if you endorse "objectivity" in many fields of learning, can you endorse it in self-existential questions? Is not "objectivity" in this application a negation of reality? i.e. it's one thing to separate yourself from a cage of lab mice, but another to separate yourself from yourself.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
June 24 2009 00:54 GMT
#27
good job moltke you killed this blog
Drium
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States888 Posts
June 24 2009 04:01 GMT
#28
On June 22 2009 12:33 Weaponx3 wrote:
there are laws and regulations depending on where we are that we must follow this do not mean just because it is legal it is right. can u explain why u have this sense of right and wrong and how they so well fall in line with what God's ten commandments.

Morality is entirely relative. The reason people have a "sense of right and wrong" is because we internalize certain behavioral rules from an early age, and those behavioral rules come from a particular social location. The very fact that people disagree with each other on questions of morality demonstrates this. It's ridiculous to assert that there is some objective measure of morality. Even if the christian god exists, what makes his opinion on morality more valid than mine?
KwanROLLLLLLLED
Prev 1 2 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
PSISTORM Gaming Misc
23:00
FSL s11 TeamLeague: PTB vs POG
Freeedom25
Liquipedia
The PiG Daily
21:25
Best Games of SC
Maru vs herO
Reynor vs Classic
Maru vs Classic
Reynor vs Maru
PiGStarcraft606
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft606
ProTech101
SpeCial 8
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 1433
NaDa 33
Dota 2
monkeys_forever368
NeuroSwarm196
League of Legends
Doublelift4531
JimRising 15
Super Smash Bros
amsayoshi26
Other Games
summit1g16836
Grubby3958
shahzam662
C9.Mang0452
byalli215
KnowMe159
ViBE51
PPMD17
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick542
BasetradeTV179
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 81
• RyuSc2 38
• davetesta16
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• sooper7s
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• Michael_bg 10
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Counter-Strike
• imaqtpie1002
• Shiphtur164
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
10m
CranKy Ducklings
10h 10m
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
15h 10m
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
19h 10m
eOnzErG vs Mihu
Messiah vs XuanXuan
Jaystar vs TerrOr
Dewalt vs Bonyth
eOnzErG vs XuanXuan
Mihu vs TerrOr
Messiah vs Bonyth
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 10h
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
1d 15h
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
1d 19h
Jaystar vs Dewalt
eOnzErG vs TerrOr
XuanXuan vs Bonyth
Mihu vs Dewalt
Messiah vs Jaystar
eOnzErG vs Bonyth
TerrOr vs Dewalt
Wardi Open
2 days
OSC
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
[ Show More ]
The PondCast
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
OSC
6 days
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL Season 22
2026 GSL S2
Heroes Pulsing #1

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Acropolis #4
CSCL: Masked Kings S4
YSL S3
Acropolis #4 - GSB
SCTL 2026 Spring
Maestros of the Game 2
WardiTV Spring 2026
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Murky Cup 2026
Heroes Pulsing #2
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1

Upcoming

BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
HSC XXIX
Douyu Cup 2026
Heroes Pulsing #3
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.