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VeirenT
Profile Joined August 2008
United States181 Posts
May 29 2009 17:56 GMT
#61
i'm a fan, and i greatly appreciate all that you've already done!
broz0rs
Profile Joined July 2008
United States2294 Posts
May 29 2009 19:11 GMT
#62
I think you've done what most of us could dream about. You're a foreigner living in a totally different cultural environment. Plus, you're a direct contributor to the e-sports community.

Maybe you're at the point of your life where having the low-paying job is an inconvenience. If that is the case, this is just the part of growing up. My $0.02 would be to focus on your career, and not just the job. See which part of the world that career would take you. That should do it.
NotJumperer
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States1371 Posts
May 29 2009 19:26 GMT
#63
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rushz0rz
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Canada5300 Posts
May 29 2009 19:40 GMT
#64
On May 30 2009 02:21 Smorrie wrote:
- figure out how to make money of your photographing hobby (work for a specific site only, or sell your pictures you make, contact teams and see if you can get paid for doing a team shoot or whatever, etc).. your portfolio should be big and good enough by now


I think the problem with that is the language barrier. NeverGG needs to learn efficient Korean, and fast! I bet she could easily get a better photography job in Korean esports.
IntoTheRainBOw fan~
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
May 29 2009 20:15 GMT
#65
Don't know you personally and probably never will, but I appreciate all you've done for us. More importantly you should appreciate all you've done for yourself.
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
Too_MuchZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Finland2818 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-29 20:54:04
May 29 2009 20:53 GMT
#66
On May 29 2009 17:55 konadora wrote:


I think you shouldn't push yourself too hard, I was once translating every single interview there was, but that just messed me up real bad. Now, when I just don't feel like it or am too tired, I just don't do it. You should try to go by your own pace and target. Go OTOT (Own time, own target).


Well pretty much standard way to get e-sports famous.

1. Massively doing things (let it be uploading vods, photos, interviews, etc)

2. You reach your peak.

3. You don't see enough respect towards you (lack of comments, traffic, popularity etc)

4. now that you have basic fanbase you can slow down things and try to get more quality towards it

5. Some point you wonder is this really necessary to do, should I just quit/retire.

6. fading out of scene

I personally have experienced same situation and going phase 6.
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25991 Posts
May 29 2009 21:06 GMT
#67
I've got to imagine being a foreigner in Korea is much more of an advantage than a disadvantage.
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24753 Posts
May 29 2009 21:10 GMT
#68
On May 30 2009 06:06 Chill wrote:
I've got to imagine being a foreigner in Korea is much more of an advantage than a disadvantage.

Not sure if you are on the same boat as me, but I hear all the 'good' stories about being a foreigner (often a la Rekrul lol) in Korea and I never seem to hear any of the bad ones. Maybe we are somewhat ignorant/misguided on the subject.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
Too_MuchZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Finland2818 Posts
May 29 2009 21:13 GMT
#69
Perhaps neverGG should have got his famousness from korean fans first then foreigners.
snowbird
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Germany2044 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-29 21:29:54
May 29 2009 21:23 GMT
#70
On May 30 2009 06:06 Chill wrote:
I've got to imagine being a foreigner in Korea is much more of an advantage than a disadvantage.


I think she was specifially referring to the situation of English teachers in Korea. English teachers are dependant on a valid work contract in order to maintain their visa, employers know that and if they're bad guys they will just treat you like shit and you can't really do anything about that. Also the anti-American sentiment has gotten stronger since the free trade agreement with the US. And every foreigner is usually considered an American for that matter. English teachers in particular don't have a good reputation because of some douches who give them a bad name, also Koreans have to pay a shitload for decent English classes and feel exploited, making them angry and blame the money mongering foreigners while actually the schools make the money and the teachers don't earn that much.

edit: Generally it's of course a big advantage to be a foreigner in Korea though!
@riotsnowbird
Cloud
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sexico5880 Posts
May 29 2009 22:00 GMT
#71
If you feel its really making you miserable just go. Do not think you will be in some kind of debt to us, if some of us feels dissapointed, well tough shit, worry about yourself.
BlueLaguna on West, msg for game.
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
May 29 2009 22:17 GMT
#72
i'm very bad at giving advice but just want to say that i hope your situation gets better, again ignore stupid people on the internet and do what you like doing.
Graphicssavior[gm] : What is a “yawn” rape ;; Masumune - It was the year of the pig for those fucking defilers. Chill - A clinic you say? okum: SC without Korean yelling is like porn without sex. konamix: HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOMMY!
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
May 29 2009 23:20 GMT
#73
On May 30 2009 06:06 Chill wrote:
I've got to imagine being a foreigner in Korea is much more of an advantage than a disadvantage.


That is because men think with their penis and the easy lay is a large part of why they go there in the first place.
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
Pholon
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Netherlands6142 Posts
May 29 2009 23:32 GMT
#74
I just wanna say that whatever you do I'll support you.
Moderator@TLPholon // "I need a third hand to facepalm right now"
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66358 Posts
May 30 2009 00:18 GMT
#75
On May 30 2009 06:13 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
Perhaps neverGG should have got his famousness from korean fans first then foreigners.

You mean 'her'
POGGERS
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
May 30 2009 00:21 GMT
#76
moving on to a new stage in life often opens up a plethora of new opportunities
lilsusie
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
3861 Posts
May 30 2009 01:34 GMT
#77
Being male in Korea is definitely more of an advantage. This is a highly sexist country. That's why people like Rek can enjoy it but so can douchebag English teacher guys, cuz even tho they are on the bottom of the food chain, they are still higher up than anything a woman can do. Sad truth.
Follow me on Twitter for pictures of cute gamers and food! https://twitter.com/lilsusie
ZeeTemplar
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States557 Posts
May 30 2009 05:19 GMT
#78
Move after your contract is done. Until then enjoy the benefits of life.
Jangbi storms!!!
R3condite
Profile Joined August 2008
Korea (South)1541 Posts
May 30 2009 05:32 GMT
#79
~ Take all the personal elements out of reporting/photographing here and ignore any negative comments (probably the best idea.)

~ Go home and quit reporting altogether. (I don't want to do this, but it's so tempting at times - like today.)

i think u have answered ur own question

also i have some friends who have low confidence and i think the one good way of fixing that w/o getting defensive is to learn to brush things off...

usually ppl aren't lacking in self-esteem just cus they r but because there's some underlying problem (like you THINK you look ugly, you are embarrassed of not having any money, etc)
so u gotta find out wat is the major reason that makes u lose ur confidence and tackle it!

also i don't understand ur money predicament, Korea usually have massive amount of space of English teachers (in those after school academies?) I even got offered a spot (it was free rm and board and friggin awesome 20 - 30 bucks per hr work!) so I think you should try and look around more... or maybe this is because u want a more freelance schedule? in which case i cannot help u cus most krns really like strict on time schedule of things
ggyo...
Too_MuchZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Finland2818 Posts
May 30 2009 08:39 GMT
#80
On May 30 2009 09:18 konadora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2009 06:13 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
Perhaps neverGG should have got his famousness from korean fans first then foreigners.

You mean 'her'


damn typos... seriously english language should have one method when its female or male like finnish language has. So simple just type one word and both are covered. :D
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