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[RANT] PvP Building Bases in your Bases Bitch

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Psyonic_Reaver
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4342 Posts
May 24 2009 04:20 GMT
#1
Why is it that all Protosses these days only know how to fucking build their base IN MY BASE? I'm talking they build their 2 gates and their cyber core and facility in the back of my base. Like. WTF?

It's fucking pathetic. Why do you think, all of you Protoss out there that do this, you will win with such a retarded strat? Jesus. The intelligence of these types of Protoss make me, a fellow Protoss, wish to switch to a different race so I can mock the stupidity of such players/race.

I just had to rant. If you want to 2 gate in my base and then keep building in your own base with your tech. That is TOTALLY fine. But building your tech in my base? Not so smart.

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So wait? I'm bad? =(
29 fps
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States5725 Posts
May 24 2009 04:23 GMT
#2
easy win for you. but of course, thats probably not challenging
4v4 is a battle of who has the better computer.
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
May 24 2009 04:24 GMT
#3
It isn't a easy win for him.

It is a REALLY viable strat that makes weaker players crumble and get confused.. sometimes they even rant on forums about it instead of practicing to stop it from happening ^_^
boesthius
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States11637 Posts
May 24 2009 04:24 GMT
#4
--- Nuked ---
imperfect
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada1652 Posts
May 24 2009 04:26 GMT
#5
Destination is really awesome for this ;D

but it's kind of awkward when you AND your opponent both send their first probe to build in each other's bases, and you meet in the middle of the map.
blind bisu free and anytime fanboy.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11557 Posts
May 24 2009 04:28 GMT
#6
meh, I don't like it, but I tend to scout it anyways so those faggy protoss don't do much!! :0
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blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
May 24 2009 04:29 GMT
#7
ya I encountered that once recently around the C level on iccup, I was able to fend it off but eventually lost in the mid-game since I had lost a bit of probes. One thing I thought of doing is next time, based on where he places his pylon, it could be a good idea to build pylons of your own to block any gateways from being put down.
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Dreadwave
Profile Joined January 2008
Netherlands254 Posts
May 24 2009 04:41 GMT
#8
Protosses don't just do this to other Protosses:
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This is from a TvP. I think it kind of defeats the purpose of DT rushing if you are going to make the archives in their nat...

I have had Protosses make their tech on my highground on Medusa when I was Zerg. I haven't seen it in PvP yet.
jonnyp
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States415 Posts
May 24 2009 05:17 GMT
#9
but it's kind of awkward when you AND your opponent both send their first probe to build in each other's bases, and you meet in the middle of the map.


lol,

i have to agree, i dont understand how building tech in the other player's base helps? any ideas? am i missing something?
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24768 Posts
May 24 2009 05:21 GMT
#10
What is it called when you make your gateways in the opponent's base? Horror gates? Demon gates? Something like that?

Didn't Europeans used to do that a lot like five years ago? If you are a better player you can win with it.

Also I recall bisu using manner pylons to power gateways rofl
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selboN
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2523 Posts
May 24 2009 05:23 GMT
#11
On May 24 2009 13:24 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
It isn't a easy win for him.

It is a REALLY viable strat that makes weaker players crumble and get confused.. sometimes they even rant on forums about it instead of practicing to stop it from happening ^_^

+1
"That's what happens when you're using a mouse made out of glass!" -Tasteless (Referring to ZergBong)
Yaqoob
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Canada3356 Posts
May 24 2009 05:33 GMT
#12
This is why on Destination that the probe that builds my first gateway checks for proxies in my main before scouting my opponent.
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SCC-Faust
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3736 Posts
May 24 2009 05:35 GMT
#13
This happened in WCG 2007 I think.

Cloud did this on Peaks of Baekdu but just monstered the Protoss before tech.
I want to fuck Soulkey with a Zelderan.
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
May 24 2009 05:39 GMT
#14
On May 24 2009 14:21 micronesia wrote:
What is it called when you make your gateways in the opponent's base? Horror gates? Demon gates? Something like that?

Didn't Europeans used to do that a lot like five years ago? If you are a better player you can win with it.

Also I recall bisu using manner pylons to power gateways rofl

It's in the PP '07 video. He builds two gates, and as the other protoss uses probes to kill the pylon he builds another one above the gateways and later on rebuilds that manner pylon a second time. The protoss he played against stopped playing SC after that.
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
May 24 2009 05:40 GMT
#15
That was copied from Bisu.
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Yaqoob
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Canada3356 Posts
May 24 2009 06:24 GMT
#16
I love Bisu.
김택용 Fighting!
Hyperionnn
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Turkey4968 Posts
May 24 2009 06:26 GMT
#17
Especially on 2 player maps, i love to hide buildings on my opponents main, it really surprises them a lot
Piy
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Scotland3152 Posts
May 24 2009 06:31 GMT
#18
...diddums
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samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
May 24 2009 06:38 GMT
#19
Dont play on Destination if you are facing a P unless you are a Z. Hell once on Desti I proxied in my opponent's main and he did to mine too, except he used the Bisu-Pokju proxy with manner pylon T.T.
"And then Earthlings discovered tools. Suddenly agreeing with friends could be a form of suicide or worse. But agreements went on, not for the sake of common sense, or decency, or self preservation, but for friendliness."
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
May 24 2009 06:52 GMT
#20
On May 24 2009 15:38 samachking wrote:
Dont play on Destination if you are facing a P unless you are a Z. Hell once on Desti I proxied in my opponent's main and he did to mine too, except he used the Bisu-Pokju proxy with manner pylon T.T.

Even as Z I got rolled today on iccup by a P on Destination. He was a rank higher but I still thought I wouldn't do too bad.

I'm guessing you lost your match then?
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
Daigomi
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
South Africa4316 Posts
May 24 2009 07:57 GMT
#21
On May 24 2009 13:24 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
It isn't a easy win for him.

It is a REALLY viable strat that makes weaker players crumble and get confused.. sometimes they even rant on forums about it instead of practicing to stop it from happening ^_^

You misunderstood his rant. He's not complaining about the two gates, he is complaining about the added cybernetics core,which should be built at home.
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Yaqoob
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Canada3356 Posts
May 24 2009 08:03 GMT
#22
If they are able to rush you and build a their tech by their proxy gateways then the game is probably already over.
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ZhenMiChan
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Netherlands1181 Posts
May 24 2009 09:00 GMT
#23
On May 24 2009 13:24 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
It isn't a easy win for him.

It is a REALLY viable strat that makes weaker players crumble and get confused.. sometimes they even rant on forums about it instead of practicing to stop it from happening ^_^



haha win!
Studying Chinese~
samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
May 24 2009 09:31 GMT
#24
On May 24 2009 15:52 Grobyc wrote:
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On May 24 2009 15:38 samachking wrote:
Dont play on Destination if you are facing a P unless you are a Z. Hell once on Desti I proxied in my opponent's main and he did to mine too, except he used the Bisu-Pokju proxy with manner pylon T.T.

Even as Z I got rolled today on iccup by a P on Destination. He was a rank higher but I still thought I wouldn't do too bad.

I'm guessing you lost your match then?


Yes, it was quite hillarious that our probes crossed the middle at the same time when we both sent it out at 5, I was like oh shit.
"And then Earthlings discovered tools. Suddenly agreeing with friends could be a form of suicide or worse. But agreements went on, not for the sake of common sense, or decency, or self preservation, but for friendliness."
XinRan
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States530 Posts
May 24 2009 09:31 GMT
#25
You know how it goes, the grass is always greener at your neighbor's lawn. Your base is too irresistable.
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meathook
Profile Joined December 2007
1289 Posts
May 24 2009 11:59 GMT
#26
Playing tvp on iccup taught me to scout my own base before I go out scouting on the rest of the map. The problem is that even if such a strat is scouted, it can still be hard to defend.. esp. zealot/cannon rush on blue storm.. I was only able to defend that 1 out of 5 times, even when I scouted it.
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29 fps
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States5725 Posts
May 24 2009 12:06 GMT
#27
the gates is understandable. it's the tech. if the opponent includes tech with the proxies, it's just asking to be destroyed.
4v4 is a battle of who has the better computer.
R3condite
Profile Joined August 2008
Korea (South)1541 Posts
May 24 2009 15:07 GMT
#28
On May 24 2009 13:24 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
It isn't a easy win for him.

It is a REALLY viable strat that makes weaker players crumble and get confused.. sometimes they even rant on forums about it instead of practicing to stop it from happening ^_^

inc tromped
ggyo...
Psyonic_Reaver
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4342 Posts
May 24 2009 16:19 GMT
#29
I win vs that kind of shit. It's just incredibly frustrating because after you kill all that shit and then contain them to their one base, they fucking turtle for another 20min. thinking they can win.

Bleh. But thanks for the advice for the other players Inc.
So wait? I'm bad? =(
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