• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 11:48
CEST 17:48
KST 00:48
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall10HomeStory Cup 27 - Info & Preview18Classic wins Code S Season 2 (2025)16Code S RO4 & Finals Preview: herO, Rogue, Classic, GuMiho0TL Team Map Contest #5: Presented by Monster Energy6
Community News
Firefly given lifetime ban by ESIC following match-fixing investigation7$25,000 Streamerzone StarCraft Pro Series announced4Weekly Cups (June 30 - July 6): Classic Doubles6[BSL20] Non-Korean Championship 4x BSL + 4x China9Flash Announces Hiatus From ASL66
StarCraft 2
General
Firefly given lifetime ban by ESIC following match-fixing investigation TL Team Map Contest #4: Winners Weekly Cups (June 30 - July 6): Classic Doubles The SCII GOAT: A statistical Evaluation The GOAT ranking of GOAT rankings
Tourneys
FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $8000 live event $25,000 Streamerzone StarCraft Pro Series announced Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series WardiTV Mondays
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
[UMS] Zillion Zerglings
External Content
Mutation # 481 Fear and Lava Mutation # 480 Moths to the Flame Mutation # 479 Worn Out Welcome Mutation # 478 Instant Karma
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ i aint gon lie to u bruh... ASL20 Preliminary Maps [G] Progamer Settings [ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL20] Non-Korean Championship 4x BSL + 4x China [BSL20] Grand Finals - Sunday 20:00 CET CSL Xiamen International Invitational
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers I am doing this better than progamers do.
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile What do you want from future RTS games? Beyond All Reason
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Positive Thoughts on Setting Up a Dual-Caliber FX
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Summer Games Done Quick 2025! Stop Killing Games - European Citizens Initiative
Fan Clubs
SKT1 Classic Fan Club! Maru Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2025 Football Thread NBA General Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NHL Playoffs 2024
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
Culture Clash in Video Games…
TrAiDoS
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 691 users

[H] Stats HW

Blogs > il0seonpurpose
Post a Reply
il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
April 28 2009 03:16 GMT
#1
So who else is ready for those AP tests coming up?

I got a stats HW review and here is the question:

A tennis racquet manufacturer has designed a new racquet. The manufacturer claims the new racquet will allow the user to return more serves than any currently sold. A group of male volunteers who play tennis and own their own racquets agree to participate in the study.

a. Design an experiment that would test the manufacturer's claim.

b. Suppose the volunteer group had included both men and women. Would you adjust the design of your experiment? If so, provide the new design.



And for stem plots, can you put decimals or do you round them?

Thanks

GoShox
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States1837 Posts
April 28 2009 03:34 GMT
#2
Oooh AP tests.. I can't help you on yours, but I could definitely use some help in preparing for my AP U.S. History test. :p
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-28 03:45:43
April 28 2009 03:43 GMT
#3
This one is really rough, partially because I play tennis and the other because I over think it.

IN this case a ball machine to simulate a serve would be best, make sure your sample size is large enough to accommodate the test say 100 returns or so per person. You should make sure that you pick volunteers of all skill levels so that you can get a comprehensive experiment. If you want to be really comprehensive pick different court types (clay, hard, grass). Make sure you do both duece and add court and then you should be good to go.

The issue is that the ball machine doesn't really facilitate the randomness that serves present. A ball machine can't really accurately hit a kick serve or a slice serve. Conversely a human being won't be consistent at all unless you somehow get a pro female player to do the experiment for you and even then... yea.


Women experiment need not be changed much except for serve speed, make it slightly slower.
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
April 28 2009 03:48 GMT
#4
On April 28 2009 12:43 Jayme wrote:
This one is really rough, partially because I play tennis and the other because I over think it.

IN this case a ball machine to simulate a serve would be best, make sure your sample size is large enough to accommodate the test say 100 returns or so per person. You should make sure that you pick volunteers of all skill levels so that you can get a comprehensive experiment. If you want to be really comprehensive pick different court types (clay, hard, grass). Make sure you do both duece and add court and then you should be good to go.

The issue is that the ball machine doesn't really facilitate the randomness that serves present. A ball machine can't really accurately hit a kick serve or a slice serve. Conversely a human being won't be consistent at all unless you somehow get a pro female player to do the experiment for you and even then... yea.


Women experiment need not be changed much except for serve speed, make it slightly slower.


Thanks, but I think after reading this, I somehow figured out it's a blind or double blind experiment! Not sure how I remembered it but thanks
LaptopLegacy
Profile Joined October 2002
Netherlands602 Posts
April 28 2009 05:21 GMT
#5
On April 28 2009 12:43 Jayme wrote:
This one is really rough, partially because I play tennis and the other because I over think it.

IN this case a ball machine to simulate a serve would be best, make sure your sample size is large enough to accommodate the test say 100 returns or so per person. You should make sure that you pick volunteers of all skill levels so that you can get a comprehensive experiment. If you want to be really comprehensive pick different court types (clay, hard, grass). Make sure you do both duece and add court and then you should be good to go.

The issue is that the ball machine doesn't really facilitate the randomness that serves present. A ball machine can't really accurately hit a kick serve or a slice serve. Conversely a human being won't be consistent at all unless you somehow get a pro female player to do the experiment for you and even then... yea.


Women experiment need not be changed much except for serve speed, make it slightly slower.

You totally missed the point of this question.
Nobody cares about machines throwing kick or slice serves.

What is important is to make this a (double) blind experiment.

So, for example, collect all rackets from the testers (say 100 testers). spraypaint them black and do the same with the company's rackets which should be tested so they are indishtinguisable to the testers. Now, provide 50 rackets from the company and 50 pre-owned rackets to the group and let them play, say 100 returns vs machine. Of course somebody needs to keep track of which players use the company's rackets, but the players themselves should not know if they use a pre-owned or company racket during the test.
Luctor et Emergo
il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
April 28 2009 05:23 GMT
#6
LaptopLegacy, I think that's a good answer but what about fatigue? Should I randomly make half of the volunteers use their own racquets first and the other half use the manufacturer's and vice versa?
LaptopLegacy
Profile Joined October 2002
Netherlands602 Posts
April 28 2009 05:53 GMT
#7
If the mix of volunteers is truly random, then they will on average become tired at the same rate, isn't it? so i think it shouldn't be a factor in the test.

what you also can do is run a test where every volunteer has to play two times, once with the company racket and once with a pre-owned racket. but he can not know in which test he is using the company racket.
if you set it up this way, then let 50 volunteers play with the company racket first and 50 with the pre-owned racket first.
Luctor et Emergo
Abydos1
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States832 Posts
April 28 2009 06:23 GMT
#8
Making it a double blind experiment is definetly key here. From my reading of the question the 'proper' way to do the test would be with real people serving it since that is how the racket is going to be judged; this of course complicates things. You can easily go into a lot of detail with how to set this up. I think the key would be double blind, large enough sample size, and explain how you would try to eliminate the affect of any other factors (such as fatigue, skill level, etc...) I wouldn't go into too much detail, maybe if you have time at the end of the test. Hope that helps
"...perhaps the greatest joy possible in Starcraft, being accused of being a maphacker" - Day[9]
Ingenol
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1328 Posts
April 28 2009 13:21 GMT
#9
It's been a while since I took an AP test, and I never took AP statistics, so while I won't comment on the question directly, what I will say is this: these tests are graded incredibly quickly, so you really want to just hit the high points, drive them home, and move on. So here you want to right away state that you would do a double blind experiment and then just explain how you would pull it off. I might even underline the key parts or terminology. That way the teacher grading the exam, who is working on his/her summer vacation for very little pay looking at AP exams for 12 hours/day, will skim through, see the keywords and important ideas and immediately think "okay this guy knows what he's talking about."

Remember that it's the kids who didn't study who are making stuff up about ball machines and all sorts of other information that isn't really pertinent. The question is about statistics, not tennis.
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 12m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 400
mcanning 192
uThermal 96
StarCraft: Brood War
Flash 2751
Bisu 2424
Shuttle 2157
EffOrt 1290
firebathero 483
Snow 469
hero 373
Larva 351
Soulkey 320
Mini 290
[ Show more ]
actioN 240
Soma 228
Zeus 146
ToSsGirL 90
Hyun 84
TY 80
Pusan 55
Terrorterran 45
Yoon 37
JYJ36
soO 34
Noble 30
Rush 26
Sacsri 18
JulyZerg 17
Rock 14
IntoTheRainbow 10
GoRush 10
HiyA 8
sorry 6
zelot 5
Dota 2
Gorgc11520
qojqva2006
oskar111
League of Legends
singsing2167
Counter-Strike
flusha298
byalli295
zeus60
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor159
Other Games
gofns18180
FrodaN2383
B2W.Neo1259
hiko1009
shahzam810
crisheroes221
Liquid`VortiX162
KnowMe106
Trikslyr47
QueenE46
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick40078
StarCraft 2
WardiTV8
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 7
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 2102
League of Legends
• Nemesis6179
• TFBlade1011
Upcoming Events
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
12m
WardiTV European League
12m
Jumy vs NightPhoenix
Percival vs Nicoract
ArT vs HiGhDrA
MaxPax vs Harstem
Scarlett vs Shameless
SKillous vs uThermal
Replay Cast
8h 12m
RSL Revival
18h 12m
ByuN vs SHIN
Clem vs Reynor
OSC
21h 12m
Replay Cast
1d 8h
RSL Revival
1d 18h
Classic vs Cure
FEL
2 days
OSC
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
[ Show More ]
FEL
2 days
FEL
3 days
CSO Cup
3 days
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
3 days
Bonyth vs QiaoGege
Dewalt vs Fengzi
Hawk vs Zhanhun
Sziky vs Mihu
Mihu vs QiaoGege
Zhanhun vs Sziky
Fengzi vs Hawk
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
FEL
3 days
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
4 days
Bonyth vs Dewalt
QiaoGege vs Dewalt
Hawk vs Bonyth
Sziky vs Fengzi
Mihu vs Zhanhun
QiaoGege vs Zhanhun
Fengzi vs Mihu
Replay Cast
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-07-07
HSC XXVII
Heroes 10 EU

Ongoing

JPL Season 2
BSL 2v2 Season 3
Acropolis #3
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 2
CSL 17: 2025 SUMMER
Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
Championship of Russia 2025
RSL Revival: Season 1
Murky Cup #2
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25
BLAST Rivals Spring 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters
CCT Season 2 Global Finals
IEM Melbourne 2025

Upcoming

2025 ACS Season 2: Qualifier
CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
CSL Xiamen Invitational
2025 ACS Season 2
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
K-Championship
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
SEL Season 2 Championship
FEL Cracov 2025
Esports World Cup 2025
Underdog Cup #2
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.