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Slithe
United States985 Posts
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VIB
Brazil3567 Posts
Now I got all 4 of my friends to quit with me, only because of my awesome persuading skillz. :D The key is focusing on the quality of the content and the hype, 90% of the wow players are aware that the game is buggy, unbalanced and rushed. But they still play it because of the hype that blizzard puts on it. These 90% only play it because they have hope, that one day everything will be better. They play thinking about the future and not the present. Blizzard posts in the forums everyday all the time telling you stuff will be fixed. It was never fixed in 4 years but people still have this blind faith in them. You just need to make the addicts think about the present and realize that the future sucks and they will suddenly lose interest in the game. Just like magic ^^ If you need psychological advice for quitting wow. I charge very cheaply per hour, let me know if you're interested. | ||
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jjun212
Canada2208 Posts
I can't say that WoW will ruin your life because I know a couple of people who are very happy and successful that play the game. But I also quit... for reasons like yours although not to that extreme. I felt like all the time I put into WoW, could have been put into working out. Or like... take all those hours I spent playing WoW and multiply it by the minimum wage here in Toronto, $9.xx and I would have some extra beer money... hehe. Anyway, WoW was "fun" while it lasted, but I can definitely relate to someone who has accused the game of being addictive and life-altering. Because it really is for the hardcore people. If you're in a GOOD guild, they expect you on at certain times and to not mess up. And when people have some kinda authority in a game, they tend to overuse it and act like assholes sometimes. And you gotta pay for that shit lol. | ||
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ThePhan2m
Norway2739 Posts
On April 24 2009 03:14 Jayme wrote: Uh what? I quit WoW about 3 weeks ago because I was sick and tired of having NOTHING to do. I played WoW since vanilla came out and while I DID play a lot it never interfered with my life to any degree that you seem to indicate in your OP... I never understood how it could take someone over like that. I finally got to med school and still managed to play WoW enough to be in a top 10 world guild before my interest finally just.. disappeared and I wanted nothing to do with WoW anymore. I do not miss it at all though, this much I can agree on you with. I used it as a stress reliever and it did that fairly well, it simply bored me to tears now. Then, You are very perfect. That you can balance your willpower everywhere exactly how you want and need to do, whenever and make everything work. If you say WoW didnt interfere with you hanging out with friends whenever they wanted, (did you prio for instance raiding over friends?) which you would have must if you were in a top10 world guild. those guild raid all the time during new content. and if that didnt affect your life, your either ignorant or not telling the truth. In WoW there is plenty to do, it depends on your personality and what your goal are. When I play, I try maximize everything. Achivement point, farm exalted reputations, do dailys etc maxing professions, getting every intresting item. I work full time job now. 25raids take 4 hours most nights, then dailys, 10mans, and in additional time when I have for rep farms, 10mans, achivements, pvp and so on. Aswell as I have 3 70 alts. that needs leveling etc. have another mind set inside WoW that has prio over life when it first starts, which I cannot control as much. I dich dishes, cleaning, cooking real food, time with friends, every other weekend, instead of every or during week days. working out is less prio, and its more focus on just enoying what you like aka WoW. Other stuff gets more trouble to do. I have problem with it, since its become a normal thing to jump into WoW everytime you come from work, or wake up during weekends. People are different, differntly raised. I get much easier addicted, due to many reasons, that makes WoW a bigger problem. So please get your proud ignorant ass out of my blog. | ||
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Future)Breeze
Croatia88 Posts
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selboN
United States2523 Posts
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DreaM)XeRO
Korea (South)4667 Posts
 good job my brothernow feel the tug of ICCUP pull at your blood it calls for you dont deny it | ||
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FirstBorn
Romania3955 Posts
So I do understand you, don't worry, it's better this way | ||
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HooHa!
United States688 Posts
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Bub
United States3518 Posts
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Tom Phoenix
1114 Posts
Also, during the time I did play, I met many (quiet normal) people who had no trouble combining their WoW play with their personal life. One of the top healers of our guild was a woman in her forties with a husband and three children (no, I am not joking). Also, the fact that the average WoW player is in his mid-20`s goes to show that it is not some extreme feat of willpower either. No offence, but as much as you seem to be trying to pin your addiction to the game, I think it has more to do with your lack of self-control. If this happens again, I would recommend professional help. On a less serious note, I agree with Selbon. They always come back.  | ||
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Jaksiel
United States4130 Posts
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ThePhan2m
Norway2739 Posts
On April 24 2009 06:50 Tom Phoenix wrote: You quit WoW....so? WoW is just another game, people stop playing games all the time. I myself switched to very casual play (casual as in once every few weeks) after I was forced to concentrate on my studies and then I stopped altogether beacuse I did not feel like playing anymore. Nothing dramatic or heroic about it, as you seem to be implying. Also, during the time I did play, I met many (quiet normal) people who had no trouble combining their WoW play with their personal life. One of the top healers of our guild was a woman in her forties with a husband and three children (no, I am not joking). Also, the fact that the average WoW player is in his mid-20`s goes to show that it is not some extreme feat of willpower either. No offence, but as much as you seem to be trying to pin your addiction to the game, I think it has more to do with your lack of self-control. If this happens again, I would recommend professional help. On a less serious note, I agree with Selbon. They always come back. Ofcourse I lack self control. Its a problem, and this is a big step out for me and many others, deciding to quit WoW. I do not know how to fight it cleary? Its how circumstances made me. And I regret to have wasted 4 years with disturbance of an addict bullet in order to get a clearer picture. And its not just ANY game, this game triggered a global cathastrophic of addictions. Every single person I know irl or anywhere that has played WoW or play wow, clearly affects their life somehow in a bad way. The fact that you think you know everyone, and that that woman for instance had the slightest control in her life, you do not know. The fact that she told you so, or it seemed so, doesnt prove anything. She might have had huuge issues even that she did not admit of. Even that would be a sad little kid seeing his/her mum grow up sitting infront of a computer all nights raiding, caring more for a game than time with the kid. | ||
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Tom Phoenix
1114 Posts
On April 24 2009 07:57 ThePhan2m wrote: Ofcourse I lack self control. Its a problem, and this is a big step out for me and many others, deciding to quit WoW. I do not know how to fight it cleary? Its how circumstances made me. And I regret to have wasted 4 years with disturbance of an addict bullet in order to get a clearer picture. And its not just ANY game, this game triggered a global cathastrophic of addictions. Every single person I know irl or anywhere that has played WoW or play wow, clearly affects their life somehow in a bad way. The fact that you think you know everyone, and that that woman for instance had the slightest control in her life, you do not know. The fact that she told you so, or it seemed so, doesnt prove anything. She might have had huuge issues even that she did not admit of. Even that would be a sad little kid seeing his/her mum grow up sitting infront of a computer all nights raiding, caring more for a game than time with the kid. My point with the self-control comment was that such an issue can easily manifest itself in any game (recently, there was a person who wrote a blog about how his addiction to StarCraft caused him to fail college) and is by no means unique to WoW. So if you do lack self-control then quitting WoW is not a big step. Infact, it merely cures the symptom, but not the cause. The only thing I can recommend is that you consult a psychiatrist. No, I do not claim to know everyone (I said I met many normal people that play the game...that does not mean I know everyone). Infact, I do not even claim that the woman I mentioned never had any issues. However, the fact that she managed to play the game as well as run a family goes to show that it was quite possible for her to combine the two aspects. Afterall, "addicts" are usually hardly in any condition to have a family. And yes, it IS just any game. I think that is what fueled your addiction, the fact that you give the game more substance then it actually has. However, it is just a game. For many people, it is just another way to hang out with your friends besides chatting on IRC or going out to the movies. It was just that for me and I played it for roughly two years before I quit. If I cannot say for certain for others, I can certainly say for myself that I never had a issue with quitting WoW. To put it all simply, the fact that we do not have millions of mentally unstable people beacuse of WoW goes to show that it is not the game itself that is the problem. It is the fact that people that do get addicted to it lack self-control and WoW is simply the manner in which their problem has manifested. So the issue is not the game itself, but you. Best of luck to you. I hope you get well. | ||
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Chef
10810 Posts
I agree about it being about him, and not the game, though. But that doesn't mean that quitting WoW won't be symbolic for him, and help him to overcome his addictive personality in general. If he can quit WoW, which he sees as the giant monster of his life, he will gain confidence later when he need to control himself. I don't know why, but I just feel there isn't much a psychiatrist can tell you that you can't find out for yourself by doing your own research. The information isn't exactly under lock and key, and they're not exactly magical elves who will cure you in an instant. They'll tell you logical steps you should take to overcome your addiction, and maintain a proper lifestyle... But it's not stuff you couldn't think of yourself. Exercise self-control, know what life goals are important to you, prioritize them over what you do for fun, and don't stop having hobbies (particularly practical, productive ones). If you think you need to, write down what you want. Remind yourself often. Repeat it to yourself. Go thru all the psychobabble you think a psychiatrist might suggest. In the end though, you know better than anyone else what you need to do to control your life. And if you can do it without anyone else's help, it's tremendous for your self-esteem and confidence. | ||
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Tom Phoenix
1114 Posts
On April 24 2009 10:00 Chef wrote: A psychiatrist? Don't you think that's a bit extreme? That's a huge hole in your pocket and basically admitting defeat before you've even tried. I agree about it being about him, and not the game, though. But that doesn't mean that quitting WoW won't be symbolic for him, and help him to overcome his addictive personality in general. If he can quit WoW, which he sees as the giant monster of his life, he will gain confidence later when he need to control himself. I don't know why, but I just feel there isn't much a psychiatrist can tell you that you can't find out for yourself by doing your own research. The information isn't exactly under lock and key, and they're not exactly magical elves who will cure you in an instant. They'll tell you logical steps you should take to overcome your addiction, and maintain a proper lifestyle... But it's not stuff you couldn't think of yourself. Exercise self-control, know what life goals are important to you, prioritize them over what you do for fun, and don't stop having hobbies (particularly practical, productive ones). If you think you need to, write down what you want. Remind yourself often. Repeat it to yourself. Go thru all the psychobabble you think a psychiatrist might suggest. In the end though, you know better than anyone else what you need to do to control your life. And if you can do it without anyone else's help, it's tremendous for your self-esteem and confidence. Admitting defeat? On the contrary. Seeking help is a big step to recovery. ThePhan2m did admit that he has a problem and, for that, he should be commended as that is an important first step. But if he seeks full recovery, he will have to go beyond that. I am not saying HE ABSOLUTELY MUST visit a psychiatrist. However, he should not feel ashamed to seek professional help if he has no idea how to solve his problem. Yes, one has access to information regarding various illnesses, but that does not mean he will be able to make heads or tails of it since he has no experience with the field (not to mention his condition also presents an obstacle). Just like it is natural for one to consult with a regular doctor regarding a biological illness, so it is completely normal to consult with a psychiatrist regarding a mental disorder (which lack of self-control certainly is). Besides, there are rehabilitation clinics for various addictions, so it is not like he has to spend a lot of money for a personal psychiatrist. As for the "WoW monster" thing, I see your point. However, I think seeing things for what they really are ultimately helps in recovering from a disorder. If he realises that WoW is not some "horrible monster", it will certainly contribute to his recovery since he will not feel as threatened by it and will thus not allow his own fears to control him. However, everything I just said is merely a friendly advice. If he thinks he can tackle the problem on his own, more power to him. | ||
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Khaymus
United States750 Posts
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Chef
10810 Posts
Admitting defeat? On the contrary. Seeking help is a big step to recovery. If you develop a dependence to overcome an obstacle, then when what you're dependant on disappears, relapse is both more likely, and more devastating. You're very quick to call this a mental disorder, and I think that's woefully inaccurate. Escapism isn't a disorder, it's a natural human tendency. It got out of hand for him, but it doesn't mean his brain isn't working properly. He just dealt with the situation improperly and needs to learn from his mistake. People can make big mistakes without being "ill." The only reason I criticise this much, is because just auto-suggesting 'go see a psychiatrist' is ridiculous. Most people don't have that kind of money, and it would require a big cutbacks everywhere else in life just to afford it. It's just unhelpful to make unrealistic suggestions like that. | ||
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Tom Phoenix
1114 Posts
On April 24 2009 11:58 Chef wrote: If you develop a dependence to overcome an obstacle, then when what you're dependant on disappears, relapse is both more likely, and more devastating. You're very quick to call this a mental disorder, and I think that's woefully inaccurate. Escapism isn't a disorder, it's a natural human tendency. It got out of hand for him, but it doesn't mean his brain isn't working properly. He just dealt with the situation improperly and needs to learn from his mistake. People can make big mistakes without being "ill." The only reason I criticise this much, is because just auto-suggesting 'go see a psychiatrist' is ridiculous. Most people don't have that kind of money, and it would require a big cutbacks everywhere else in life just to afford it. It's just unhelpful to make unrealistic suggestions like that. That is assuming you do not fully recover from it. However, it is true that, ultimately, you have to deal with the issue yourself. However, having help does not necesarilly hurt. But above all, one should not be ashamed to ask for it. Pride comes before a fall.... No offence, but this is not "escapism" in the sense you are trying to imply. Escapism is a preety normal occurence among people, since everyone requires something to put their minds off of their daily lives. However, if it gets to the point that you become completely dependant on escaping from reality, then it already qualifies as an obsession, if not an addiction. His post suggests precisely that (although I will not claim to know for certain). And I did not suggest a psychiatrist as an automatic solution to everything. It is not. However, seeking an experts advice is usually a preety wise course of action if you are uncertain how to proceed yourself. Plus, like I said, he does not necessarilly have to get a personal psychiatrist (since that is, as you mention, expensive). There are rehabilitation clinics and centers he could turn to. | ||
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Bosu
United States3247 Posts
On April 24 2009 03:47 Koldblooded wrote: I played wow for 3 months, then it got boring. I don't see how people get so addicted to it, especially when there is very little skill involved You couldn't have possibly have experienced the addicting part of the game after just 3 months of play. | ||
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