Bipolar disorder - Page 3

Do you believe your genes control what you do?

On April 21 2009 10:41 Chef wrote:

Absolutely.

On April 21 2009 10:47 travis wrote:


to the extent that outside variables can't change it?

like, if someone is born with genes that make them racist, they will be racist their entire life?

On April 21 2009 07:44 Hawk wrote:
Are you kidding me lol

He's an idiot, and that's completely wrong.

On April 21 2009 07:44 PH wrote:

Of course within the realm of all remote possibilities in the universe, yes you could. But that's like asking a kleptomaniac to not packrat and steal, or like asking an OCD to not do his rituals.

Actually, bipolar is probably more difficult to control than kleptomania and OCD.

There is a reason why it is a diagnosed disorder...and that is because it's not simply an up and down of moods...it's severe enough that it warrants the attention of shrinks and psychologists (I know that's somewhat circular, but...). It can have severely damaging effects on a person's life, and simply brushing it off like that isn't fair to the person and the people around them.

Yes, we are all "a little bipolar"...however, most of us don't have a bipolar disorder.

EDIT

It's pretty clear what he's saying, and I still don't think he's any more right.

There's a clear difference between you and someone with a bipolar disorder...it doesn't mess with your overall lifestyle like it does theirs. If it's not severe enough to warrant some kind of professional attention, then it's not relevant here.

I'm not pushing for the complete foil of what you're saying...I don't think the OP's friend should be babied or anything like that, but expecting such as you and Raith are simply isn't going to happen.

On April 21 2009 11:17 Raithed wrote:

how am i an idiot for stating what is MY OPINION, do you have any opinions at all? no. you just read and go "lol hes an idiot." i can retaliate and say that youre a dumbass too. right? right. jesus fucking christ.

On April 21 2009 11:11 PH wrote:

There is no racism gene.

There are, however, very likely genes that will affect the stability of certain chemicals and the formation of physical structures in your brain.

On April 21 2009 11:17 Raithed wrote:

how am i an idiot for stating what is MY OPINION, do you have any opinions at all? no. you just read and go "lol hes an idiot." i can retaliate and say that youre a dumbass too. right? right. jesus fucking christ.



oh btw im not saying im right i never stated that, i just gave an opinion and im sticking with it. yet there are people who are literally taking it the wrong way which is lol.

On April 21 2009 11:50 Cloud wrote:


There are genes for behaviour. And people can teach themselves to go against it. Living in society is probably the most common example, as some people say genes want you to behave in a very selfish way.

And well, wiki says life experiences take a huge part in this, so i guess a person should be able to conciously help himself to some degree.

On April 21 2009 00:39 Raithed wrote:

you CANNNNN control it, cant you? i mean you KNOW what you did wrong but you already *did* it already. honest to say, arent we all a little bipolar?

There is a particular kind of pain, elation, loneliness, and terror involved in this kind of madness. When you're high it's tremendous. The ideas and feelings are fast and frequent like shooting stars and you follow them until you find better and brighter ones. Shyness goed, the right words and gestures are suddenly there, the powere to seduce and captivate others a felt certainty. There are interests found in uninteresting people. Sensuality is pervasive and the desire to seduce and be seduced irresistible. Feelings of ease, intensity, power, well-being, financial omnipotence and euphoria now pervade one's marrow.
But, somehwere, this changes. The fast ideas are far too fast and there are far too many; overwhelming confusion replaces clarity. Memory goes. Humor and absorption on friends' faces are replaced by fear and concern. Everything previously moving with the grain is now against - you are irritable, angry, frightened, uncontrollable, and enmeshed totally in the blackest caves of the mind. You never knew those caves were there. It will never end.

On April 21 2009 07:52 travis wrote:


Bi-Polar is a mood disorder. It is the same as being very very moody. Even very very moody people can learn to sit still and be quiet. Even very very moody people can learn to recognize their own mood swings, and understand that when their mood is changing they ought to slow down and be more careful about their decision-making.

If you disagree with this, then why?

On April 21 2009 00:47 Hawk wrote:


Man, I knew you were an idiotasshole, but lol

On April 21 2009 11:28 Jibba wrote:
Your opinion is equally as valid here as it would be in a discussion on coronary artery bypass grafting.

On April 20 2009 15:04 BackHo wrote:
I have a friend who has bipolar disorder and her self esteem seems to be quite severely affected by her condition. She's actually very difficult to handle sometimes, which I think is why often people with mental disorders are also often victims of rejection. I've known people to be friends with her and then distance themselves from her when it gets too hard. I imagine that it can be quite draining being really good friends with someone like this. And it's definitely not her fault, but I think if it was managed better, she'd be easier to get along with. Because to be honest, she's actually one of the most kind, friendly and generous people I know. But sometimes she makes some silly decisions, and sometimes she can be quite irritating because she requires constant attention. Some days she comes to work and spends the whole evening complaining about everything that's wrong in her life, and other days she's the most bubbly and happy person in the world. It's quite difficult to deal with.