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Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-12 20:06:40
March 12 2009 20:02 GMT
#61
On March 13 2009 03:55 LosingID8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2009 03:53 cUrsOr wrote:
this happens a lot. people start losing at C and B
so they come back for some wins.

lol wait you think day9 loses regularly to C and B ranks?

This season he would :p ( i mean atm. All those B and C ranks are filled with other top foreigners or sick Korean )

Btw upload rep please i loled.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
Malongo
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Chile3472 Posts
March 12 2009 20:15 GMT
#62
On March 13 2009 04:43 Day[9] wrote:
though i'm going into this concept later in an audio recording, i figure i'll respond to Strayline briefly now:

Strong players naturally know how to "hide" their weak points. I remember playing a VERY strong terran player back when I was bad, and I literally could not conceive of a way to beat him. It seemed that he was completely defended at every point in the game, and that his macro/economy allowed him to have x100 more units. I tried my best in a series of 15 or so games to use every play I knew: 9pool, fast lurker, 3hatch lurker/ling, fast defilers, fast ultralisks, mass mutalisks. Nothing worked!

Weak players naturally expose their weak points. For instance, a terran player might early expand and get an academy WAY too late. As a zerg player, I'll immediately notice when I have 30 lings and he has 16 marines and no medics anywhere in sight. Consequently, such a blatant mistake sticks out in my mind and I can immediately abuse this. Other such abuses and timings are blatantly apparent when you're playing against someone who's not particularly good.

In other words, vs good players, you learn what NOT to do, vs bad players you learn what TO do. In terms of practice, its critical to alternate playing between weaker and stronger players. vs the weaker opponents, I can flesh out some timing windows and see where clear deficiencies and strengths lie in my own build. vs better opponents, I tweak my builds and knowledge to account for subtleties and precision.

I cannot tell you how much this has helped me improve over time. I mean, imagine if the MOTW is katrina: gas expansions everywhere, weird counter attack paths, little worry of early game rush etc etc. Consider if you've never played katrina. You begin playing on the map, and over the course of the week develop a comfortable playstyle that brings you all the way to B.

Now, the MOTW changes to python, a map with a totally different dynamic: wide open expansions, a very difficult to secure 3rd gas, a wide open center etc etc. Naturally, your katrina builds don't work, but trying to discover a new playstyle is extremely difficult against the B players who already know python. You'll feel like you're banging your head against the wall in a completely non-constructive fashion. I'm all for playing vs strong people to challenge yourself, but what exactly does playing at B level do for you if there's no underlying build/strategy? You play better players to improve, but its important to know WHAt you're improving. Otherwise, your throwing games away and confusing yourself unnecessarily.

The best builds i've ever developed have been those I thought about and tested from a D level and tweaked all the way up to A. Likewise, I found builds to avoid by theorizing and beginning at D level until I hit a mental wall at the B-/C+ level.

crap post that was longer than i expected


Sorry if i sounded bm on my previous post, its just that a couple of screen shots doesnt give too much to write about and i see a current trend to this kind of blogs. However, this post is raw gold. Thanks for sharing your wisdom.
Help me! im still improving my English. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. M. G.
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
March 12 2009 20:17 GMT
#63
So much red lol
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
rushz0rz
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Canada5300 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-12 20:24:19
March 12 2009 20:20 GMT
#64
I think it's stupid that a good player such as yourself, Day[9], smurfs with a "zillion different accounts." Be a MAN!

D zergs just aren't fun. They haven't learned how to deflect reaver harass yet, and that's the only thing I'm good at, whether it be the 1 base reaver/zealot all in or FE into sair/reaver. I'm surprised I win games with my terrible macro.
IntoTheRainBOw fan~
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
March 12 2009 21:11 GMT
#65
On March 13 2009 05:20 rushz0rz wrote:
I think it's stupid that a good player such as yourself, Day[9], smurfs with a "zillion different accounts." Be a MAN!

D zergs just aren't fun. They haven't learned how to deflect reaver harass yet, and that's the only thing I'm good at, whether it be the 1 base reaver/zealot all in or FE into sair/reaver. I'm surprised I win games with my terrible macro.


He just explained himself...
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
rushz0rz
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Canada5300 Posts
March 12 2009 21:35 GMT
#66
On March 13 2009 06:11 Divinek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2009 05:20 rushz0rz wrote:
I think it's stupid that a good player such as yourself, Day[9], smurfs with a "zillion different accounts." Be a MAN!

D zergs just aren't fun. They haven't learned how to deflect reaver harass yet, and that's the only thing I'm good at, whether it be the 1 base reaver/zealot all in or FE into sair/reaver. I'm surprised I win games with my terrible macro.


He just explained himself...


I wasn't being serious.
IntoTheRainBOw fan~
Proct
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States69 Posts
March 12 2009 21:38 GMT
#67
LOLOLOLOL i love when guys are like that in pub games and shit

-rekrul
Never beleive anyone in the bnet.. +The Stove+
Loophole
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States867 Posts
March 12 2009 21:44 GMT
#68
heh no

=D
"Fundamental preparation is always effective. Work on those parts of your game that are fundamentally weak." -Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
March 17 2009 10:00 GMT
#69
wtf that ID you're using isn't even a "new" ID, I've definitely seen that name before in a whoiswho thread (prolly like back in 2006 during PGT season 13 or something)
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
March 17 2009 10:23 GMT
#70
On March 13 2009 06:35 rushz0rz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2009 06:11 Divinek wrote:
On March 13 2009 05:20 rushz0rz wrote:
I think it's stupid that a good player such as yourself, Day[9], smurfs with a "zillion different accounts." Be a MAN!

D zergs just aren't fun. They haven't learned how to deflect reaver harass yet, and that's the only thing I'm good at, whether it be the 1 base reaver/zealot all in or FE into sair/reaver. I'm surprised I win games with my terrible macro.


He just explained himself...


I wasn't being serious.


Yes but it's all true
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
tarpman
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada723 Posts
March 17 2009 23:34 GMT
#71
On March 13 2009 04:43 Archaic wrote:
Make a podcast! I'd love to listen to your lectures on a bus home, way to school, etc.

this is a great idea, would totally subscribe.
Saving the world, one kilobyte at a time.
APurpleCow
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1372 Posts
April 02 2009 01:07 GMT
#72
As a D+ player, I can easily emphasize with thegasface. I went 70%ish last season, and then this season I had a 17 game loss streak, with at least 90% of my opponents having over 200apm. It's just insane how many players that aren't D are playing on the D ladder, and it can get very frustrating your, say, I dunno, 17th game in a row against a 400apm korean.
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
April 02 2009 01:09 GMT
#73
On April 02 2009 10:07 APurpleCow wrote:
As a D+ player, I can easily emphasize with thegasface. I went 70%ish last season, and then this season I had a 17 game loss streak, with at least 90% of my opponents having over 200apm. It's just insane how many players that aren't D are playing on the D ladder, and it can get very frustrating your, say, I dunno, 17th game in a row against a 400apm korean.


They have to start out as D.
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
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