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http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/phenomenology/ # Phenomenology studies conscious experience as experienced, analyzing the structure — the types, intentional forms and meanings, dynamics, and (certain) enabling conditions — of perception, thought, imagination, emotion, and volition and action. i dont really want to battle anything, just saying that you can't randomly assert stuff | ||
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making the will to power a metaphysical feature of humanity is fine. i did not challenge it here in particular, just to say that we tend to be more conservative in making metaphysical assertions, especially concerning mind and will. | ||
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omninmo
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+ Show Spoiler + section 5 of "Reason in Philosophy, Twilight of the Idols | ||
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MoltkeWarding
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It's not a mind problem, again the will precedes interpretation. The problem is in your very phrasing of your question: Do you think it exists in all animals or just man? Why? Which is based on a metaphysical presupposition. Your supposition that the Will to Power abrogates the Will to Truth makes your very question irrelevant. You need to change the subject of your question. | ||
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MoltkeWarding
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Your question assumes that we all accept the Will to Power as a metaphysical reality. A better question would be to ask for a clarification of Nietzsche's beliefs and not our own. Compounded with the question "Why?" makes the question itself paradoxial. If you believe in the primacy of the will, then no adequate response to the question can have any relation to truth, nor should you even desire it. | ||
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On March 12 2009 10:32 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: 1. Nietzsche put forth the will-to-power as something that naturally distinguished the strong from the weak I think that, to illustrate the will to power at least in GM, Nietzsche employs a method, that of historical analysis or genealogical study, which makes the will apparent by comparing the historically strong and the historically weak. I don't think N or anyone ever or can ever define the will in itself. It can only be understood from its effects, its form giving acts. It's rather a force. I think power, and forms in which the will expresses itself, in that within the masters it exists as an active force, distinguishes the strong from the weak, but I think the fundamental will is similar in the master and the slaves, the forms of expression are different. Again an obvious example, guilt as the will turning man in on itself. | ||
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MoltkeWarding
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On March 13 2009 08:44 zulu_nation8 wrote: That would be the same question, I'm asking for interpretations. When I ask, Does so and so mean this or that, I imply at the end of the sentence the clarification: in Nietzsche's philosophy. I don't care about what you think the will to power is, I care about what you think Nietzsche thinks it is. I know every reader of N definitely agrees that it exists in man, so I'm asking if it applies to all living beings or not. And if so, where in N's works do you find such justification. If you read Beyond Good and Evil, you will see that Nietzsche equates the Will to Power as the fundamental property of life. Under his description of what this entails, man is nothing greater than an animal, since he denies all transcedentalist conventions which separate the two. | ||
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