• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 12:13
CEST 18:13
KST 01:13
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro4 Preview: On Course12Code S Season 1 - RO8 Preview7[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Progenitors8Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun13[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Inheritors16
Community News
Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO8 Results0Weekly Cups (May 4-10): Clem, MaxPax, herO win1Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule !11Weekly Cups (April 27-May 4): Clem takes triple0RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event12
StarCraft 2
General
Signs Child Needs Myobrace Sunbury Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO8 Results MaNa leaves Team Liquid Weekly Cups (May 4-10): Clem, MaxPax, herO win Code S Season 1 - RO8 Preview
Tourneys
2026 GSL Season 2 Qualifiers Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule ! $5,000 WardiTV Spring Championship 2026 SC2 INu's Battles#16 <BO.9> Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2)
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
Mutation # 525 Wheel of Misfortune The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 524 Death and Taxes Mutation # 523 Firewall
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ (Spoiler) Interview ASL Ro4 Day 2 Winner ASL21 General Discussion vespene.gg — BW replays in browser
Tourneys
[ASL21] Semifinals B [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Semifinals A [BSL22] RO8 Bracket Stage + Another TieBreaker
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Hydra ZvZ: An Introduction Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game PC Games Sales Thread
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread UK Politics Mega-thread YouTube Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
streaming software Strange computer issues (software) [G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
How EEG Data Can Predict Gam…
TrAiDoS
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1862 users

WC3 vs SC - Page 3

Blogs > yejin
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 All
Hammy
Profile Joined January 2009
France828 Posts
February 28 2009 00:02 GMT
#41
I'm always so amazed by how clean the korean esport worlds seems to be (I may be mistaken, but this is how i see it from the outside).

I mean, there's NO WAY any western organisation as huge in it's country as the OSL/MSL is in Korea would allow their star players to be eliminated early on in the competition. They would find any vicious way to let their star players/teams get back in so that people can buy their products when that player/team wins another game.
Look at what the boxing industry is like in the western world. I'll restrain from giving other examples i've got in mind to keep on topic

Maybe the koreans just figured out that having a real competition is better than keeping the same old names all the time. Although I must agree with the people who posted before me...they've got the huge advantage of having so many youngsters comming up and pushing the legends out. And because of the discipline in the teams, those players don't disapear right after disqualifying a favorite.

I've got a question though. I quit W3 quite a while ago so i'm just curious. When you say that people don't really make interesting comments on games that were played, isn't that related to the fact that most of the counters are already clearly defined in WC3? Having a capped macro and very little strategical variation from one game to another (at least that's how i saw it back when i watched some WC3), doesn't it just all come down to micro in the end? Of course sometimes we'll see some interesting strategies or army manoeuvres, but those are the really pimp games. That's how i remember it, but maybe i was just blind or things changed.
Orlandu
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
China2450 Posts
February 28 2009 07:42 GMT
#42
I really, really agree with the OP. You seem like you have a much better understanding of the scene and what goes on than most people I've seen here in the last 6 years.

I also really agree with what ven_ said, I think most people (WarCraft 3 players and non-WarCraft 3 players alike) don't understand the game very well at all, and I think that accounts for a lot of the frustration and immaturity in both the WarCraft 3 community and other communities.

Although I don't agree that this is necessarily a WarCraft 3 vs StarCraft discussion (yet), and this may very well degenerate into something worthless, you raise some interesting points in an unbiased way and I'll be curious to see where this leads
We cant give up just because things arent the way we want them to be.
Rice
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1332 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-28 14:03:01
February 28 2009 14:01 GMT
#43
I think one of the main reasons warcraft 3 wasnt as deep as starcraft is because of the way tech trees work in warcraft 3. with the lack of buildings, you can scout your opponents base but it really wont tell you much because EVERYONE is doing the same thing the majority of the time, theres no hidden tech, no proxies etc. pretty much all the 1on1 games end with the same army comps and theres not as many unique builds you can do in warcraft 3.


also the warcraft 3 community on BATTLE.NET in random ladder games or in a random dota game can be bad mannered but the same can be said about battle.net for starcraft or any game for that matter.
Freedom will be defended at the cost of civil liberties.
Prev 1 2 3 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 7h 47m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Ryung 79
UpATreeSC 30
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 51856
Bisu 2707
Horang2 1135
Sea 891
EffOrt 717
Soma 459
Light 389
ggaemo 374
BeSt 355
actioN 335
[ Show more ]
Larva 287
ZerO 270
firebathero 267
Rush 117
Dewaltoss 98
hero 85
Mind 76
Mong 50
ToSsGirL 44
sSak 42
sorry 30
Shinee 23
Movie 22
Barracks 22
soO 21
Rock 18
Bale 16
910 16
IntoTheRainbow 15
Terrorterran 12
GoRush 10
Noble 6
Dota 2
Gorgc7942
qojqva1793
monkeys_forever147
Counter-Strike
Fnx 1533
fl0m1005
byalli462
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King97
Other Games
singsing1723
Grubby1009
B2W.Neo955
Beastyqt942
FrodaN938
Liquid`RaSZi913
ceh9377
Lowko367
crisheroes288
Hui .228
ArmadaUGS130
QueenE106
KnowMe64
ZerO(Twitch)22
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• poizon28 88
• StrangeGG 77
• Kozan
• Migwel
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 20
• FirePhoenix5
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• Nemesis2749
• Jankos2263
Other Games
• Shiphtur209
• WagamamaTV191
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
7h 47m
RSL Revival
17h 47m
Classic vs Solar
herO vs SHIN
OSC
20h 47m
Big Brain Bouts
23h 47m
sebesdes vs Iba
Percival vs YoungYakov
Reynor vs GgMaChine
Korean StarCraft League
1d 10h
RSL Revival
1d 17h
Clem vs Rogue
Bunny vs Lambo
IPSL
1d 23h
Dewalt vs nOmaD
Ret vs Cross
BSL
2 days
Bonyth vs Doodle
Dewalt vs TerrOr
GSL
2 days
Cure vs herO
SHIN vs Maru
IPSL
2 days
Bonyth vs Napoleon
G5 vs JDConan
[ Show More ]
BSL
3 days
OyAji vs JDConan
DragOn vs TBD
Replay Cast
3 days
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
The PondCast
4 days
GSL
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
GSL
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-05-13
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Acropolis #4
KK 2v2 League Season 1
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
SCTL 2026 Spring
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
Heroes Pulsing #1
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W7
YSL S3
Escore Tournament S2: W8
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
WardiTV Spring 2026
2026 GSL S2
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026: Closed Qualifier
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.