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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24753 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-02 03:11:23
February 02 2009 02:51 GMT
#1
Former Chess Blog: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=78428

I am starting to train to get good in chess so I'm looking for opponents whenever I have the chance. I'm still pretty weak, but I am seeing quick improvements.

I played four games vs Racenilatr today. After the last game, he said he was going to play starcraft but wanted me to review the games with him. I told him I only had a record of the final game so I'd have to do that one even though it wasn't the best game (I actually realized shortly before completing this long post that there is a record stored of every game!) We agreed that I'd make a post where I analyzed the game for him to learn from. I invite all the readers to discuss the game as well, and anybody new to chess can possibly learn from this.

White: Racenilatr
Black: micronesia

1: d4

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Queen's Pawn Opening. The Queen's Pawn opening move is somewhat slower than the popular e4, because White will not be able to castle for three more moves. Its advantage is that it gives White more control over tactical surprises and often provides more lasting initiative and pressure.

1: ... d5

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Queen's Pawn Game. Black answers symmetrically, challenging the center directly.

2: Bg5

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Levitsky Attack. In Queen's Pawn openings, there is always a problem: how to activate the c1-Bishop. By developing the Bishop outside the pawn chain (before White plays e3), White guarantees the Bishop a future, if only to trade it off. White wins 15% more than Black statistically.

2: ... Nc6

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Out of opening book.

Additional Commentary: I'm not used to playing against this white opening, so I had no prior experience playing against it. I knew it wasn't a common opening because it violates the general rule of developing knights before bishops. I decided the pin on the pawn at e7 wasn't a big deal, so I developed my b8 knight. I was considering a fiancetto on the king's side in order to force him to respond to my threat on the d4 pawn, but didn't end up doing it.

3: Nf3

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Develops a Knight.

3: ... Nf6

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Releases the pin on Black's pawn at e7.

4: h4

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This move doesn't seem to accomplish very much. It's rare that you want to move a rook's pawn two spaces this early in the game.

4: ... Bf5

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Develops a bishop, and attacks white's weakest pawn at c2.

5: Qd2

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Brings the queen out of the back row. Also attacks the b4 square, preventing the knight on c6 from advancing with the intent to target c2 and win a rook at a1.

5: ... Qd7

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Enables the long castle.

Additional Commentary: This move proved to be very helpful, but I didn't yet know how I was going to use the queen when I moved it here.

6: a4

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Similar to h4, I don't see this accomplishing very much. It would be better to develop a minor piece and/or get ready to castle.

6: ... e6

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Backs up the pawn at d5 and the bishop at f5. Opens the diagonal for the f8 bishop which attacks the square at b4, and allows the c6 knight to advance.

7: e3

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Backs up the d4 pawn and opens the diagonal for the f1 bishop.

7: ... Nb4

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Threatens to fork the king and the rook at a1 by Nxc2. Is attacked by white's queen, but defended by black's bishop at f8.

8: c3

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Ouch! Leads to 8...Nc2+ 9.Kd1 Nxa1 10.Bb5 c6 11.Ne5 Qc7 12.Bd3 Ne4 13.Qe2 f6 14.g4 fxe5 15.gxf5 exf5 16.dxe5 Nxg5 17.hxg5 Qxe5, which wins a bishop, a knight, and a pawn for a rook, a bishop, a knight, and two pawns. Much better is Na3, leading to 8...Ne4 9.Qd1 Bd6 10.c3 f6 11.Bf4 Bxf4 12.exf4 Nc6 13.Be2 O-O, which wins a bishop for a bishop. [spoiler]This was white's only meaningful blunder, but it cost the game. White was not able to recover and was eventually mated.[/spoiler]

8: ... Nc2+

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Moves it out of harm's way and forks White's king and White's rook at a1.

9: Kd1

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Moves it out of check.

9: ... Nxa1

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Forks White's pawn at a4 and White's knight at b1.

10: c4

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Ouch! Leads to 10...Ne4 11.Qc1 Nxf2+ 12.Ke1 Nxh1 13.Nc3 Nc2+ 14.Kd2 Ng3 15.Ne5 Qd6 16.Bf4 Nxf1+ 17.Qxf1, which wins a knight for a rook, a bishop, and a pawn. Much better is Bb5, leading to 10...c6 11.Ne5 Qc7 12.Bd3 Ne4 13.Qe1 Qa5 14.Nd2 Qxa4+ 15.Ke2 Nxd2 16.Qxd2 Bxd3+ 17.Nxd3, which wins a bishop and a knight for a bishop, a knight, and a pawn.

10: ... Qxa4+

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Checks White's king.

Additional Commentary: This is where the earlier move Qd7 proved useful.

11: b3

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Danger! Hangs the pawn at b3. Leads to 11...Qxb3+ 12.Ke2 Bxb1 13.Bxf6 Bb4 14.Bg5 dxc4 15.Ke1 Be4 16.Be2 Qb1+ 17.Bd1 Bd3 18.Qxb4 Nc2+ 19.Kd2 Qxb4+ 20.Kc1 Nxe3, which wins a bishop and a knight for a queen, a knight, and three pawns. Much better is Ke2, leading to 11...Bxb1 12.Qc1 Ne4 13.Qxb1 Qxc4+ 14.Kd1 Qb3+ 15.Kc1 Nxf2 16.Be2 Qa4 17.b3 Nxb3+ 18.Kb2 Nxh1 19.Qxh1, which wins a bishop and a knight for a rook, a knight, and three pawns.

11: ... Qxb3+

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Checks White's king and creates a passed pawn on a7.

Additional Commentary: It is very important that white moves his king in the correct direction here. He should escape to the right to avoid the queen.

12: Kc1

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White gives Black a forced mate opportunity. Much better is Ke2. Kc1 leads to 12...Qxb1# and mate.

12: ... Qxb1#

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Checkmates White's king.

Post game analysis: This was weaker than a couple of your other games (hence the short game length). I think you were losing concentration at this point. As you practice more, it becomes easier to spot weak points in your defense that the opponent is targeting. This is the second or third time I caught you with a fork of the king and the rook with my knight, so make sure to watch out for that during games! If you want me to analyze any of our other games let me know. You better hurry if you want to take a win from me though... I just started reading the book Cloud recommended to me :p


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ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
Saracen
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5139 Posts
February 02 2009 02:54 GMT
#2
i'll play you!
do you have a uscf rating?
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24753 Posts
February 02 2009 02:55 GMT
#3
On February 02 2009 11:54 Saracen wrote:
i'll play you!
do you have a uscf rating?

Not yet, although I just registered with them. I don't yet know what local events are available to me...

The chessmaster rating may not be a very accurate representation of what my uscf rating would be, but it took me a week to get myself even with the 1000 rating players, and since then I walked up to almost 1100 on their system.

But I'm pretty weak as I'm still learning some of the basics of proper play.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
February 02 2009 02:57 GMT
#4
That fork with the knight really hurt.
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
February 02 2009 02:58 GMT
#5
Cool, where are you playing these games? I'd love to join in. In the USCF system my rating was about 1150 two years ago, haven't played much since then.
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24753 Posts
February 02 2009 03:00 GMT
#6
We played on chess.com using their live play feature. I doubt that's the best place but it's really quick and easy to register and get started. I've used yahoo chess in the past also. If anyone has chessmaster grandmaster edition then I can play online with them using the online feature for that software, I suppose.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
CompX
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada216 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-02 03:06:43
February 02 2009 03:05 GMT
#7
where do u find the chess site, I wanna play


edit: said this a little bit late
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liger13
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1060 Posts
February 02 2009 03:12 GMT
#8
lol... i have an old DS Chess game... i might pull that out and see if ive gotten any worse
i wonder if it has wifi... if it does ill play any1 else with it
I feel like pwning noobs
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
February 02 2009 03:15 GMT
#9
micro chess game gogogo
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
overpool
Profile Joined April 2008
United States191 Posts
February 02 2009 03:16 GMT
#10
Nice analysis of a somewhat poor game by white; he's got to learn to see those Kc2 forks coming. In addition, I would recommend a more basic king's pawn -> 2 knight's opening for a player of that level.

If anyone's interested in playing free online chess without registering, check out instantchess.com or some online flash version. However, it's important to note that skill levels vary drastically on those free, non-registration chess applications.
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24753 Posts
February 02 2009 03:24 GMT
#11
On February 02 2009 12:16 overpool wrote:
Nice analysis of a somewhat poor game by white; he's got to learn to see those Kc2 forks coming. In addition, I would recommend a more basic king's pawn -> 2 knight's opening for a player of that level.

If anyone's interested in playing free online chess without registering, check out instantchess.com or some online flash version. However, it's important to note that skill levels vary drastically on those free, non-registration chess applications.

Yeah I commented to him that it's interesting he chose the queen's pawn, but he said he didn't know the difference. I guess it's good advice for him to start with the King's pawn (I always do).
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
Abydos1
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States832 Posts
February 02 2009 03:29 GMT
#12
I'd be willing to play sometime too.
"...perhaps the greatest joy possible in Starcraft, being accused of being a maphacker" - Day[9]
Base
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States36 Posts
February 02 2009 03:30 GMT
#13
I'm interested in playing and learning. Let me know how/when you want to play if you're interested.
Abydos1
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States832 Posts
February 02 2009 03:31 GMT
#14
FYI here's a link to the game on chess.com if you want to step through it:
http://www.chess.com/livechess/game.html?id=14555624#
"...perhaps the greatest joy possible in Starcraft, being accused of being a maphacker" - Day[9]
Insane
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States4991 Posts
February 02 2009 03:37 GMT
#15
I'll play some games with people, but only blitz or (preferrably) bullet.
huameng
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States1133 Posts
February 02 2009 03:37 GMT
#16
I like me some chess too, I'm like 1800 USCF if anyone's interested in playing on ICC
skating
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24753 Posts
February 02 2009 03:39 GMT
#17
On February 02 2009 12:37 HnR)Insane wrote:
I'll play some games with people, but only blitz or (preferrably) bullet.

Out of curiosity why do you prefer such high speed games?
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
SOB_Maj_Brian
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States522 Posts
February 02 2009 03:45 GMT
#18
I love blitz, its like playing starcraft on fastest versus playing it on just fast. Well maybe that isn't the best analogy, but it utilizes different skills than in long games. Blitz games (between equally skilled people), I find tend to be more tactical, where sacrifices are more likely to happen, and more aggressive play happens.
J_J777
Profile Joined August 2007
United States22 Posts
February 02 2009 03:46 GMT
#19
i hate blitz it's just not for me. idk how good the white player was because there were quite a few tactics that white could've fallen into not directly but potential (7. Bb4 skewering the queen and king but there is c3 to block but potential it could've been dangerous)
3clipse
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Canada2555 Posts
February 02 2009 03:49 GMT
#20
I'll donk it up if anyone wants to play chess. I used to be quite good but haven't played in years.

My username is T62
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