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Too_MuchZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Finland2818 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-04 18:56:28
January 04 2009 18:55 GMT
#1
[image loading]


Must be someone at TL.net because nickname iloveoov :D

But yeah I lost him very first ranked games and I amm boosting him free everytime I play match.

*
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24753 Posts
January 04 2009 18:58 GMT
#2
Well this is a very lacking OP but I do want to point out that the same exact thing happened to me haha.

For those who are confused: go is a board game (see my much previous blog) and kgs has rankings. If you lose to someone, and then win vs good players, that first guy you lost to receives credit for being better than you after you beat the good players.... so rank can jump around a lot.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
Ganfei
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Taiwan1439 Posts
January 04 2009 20:07 GMT
#3
Do you go into every thread and say it's a lacking OP?
You are crushing me like a cheese sandwich
nAi.PrOtOsS
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada784 Posts
January 04 2009 20:20 GMT
#4
On January 05 2009 03:58 micronesia wrote:
Well this is a very lacking OP but I do want to point out that the same exact thing happened to me haha.

For those who are confused: go is a board game (see my much previous blog) and kgs has rankings. If you lose to someone, and then win vs good players, that first guy you lost to receives credit for being better than you after you beat the good players.... so rank can jump around a lot.


This is a lacking comment.
LordWeird
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3411 Posts
January 04 2009 20:26 GMT
#5
No it isn't, he explained what the picture means, how is that lacking?
Chains none
nAi.PrOtOsS
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada784 Posts
January 04 2009 20:35 GMT
#6
Yea I just felt like saying that...So I did...
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
January 04 2009 20:38 GMT
#7
I thought you were referring to your own comment as lacking, but I guess not.
Jaedong
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-04 20:41:10
January 04 2009 20:39 GMT
#8
On January 05 2009 05:35 nAi.PrOtOsS wrote:
Yea I just felt like saying that...So I did...


thats not a very good idea on these forums

for the OP: A description of what this means would make the OP better
not everyone can read swedish

and thanks to micro for the explanation, I hope the rest of you stop derailing this thread
(I thought this topic would be about G.O. lol)
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
pinenamu
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States770 Posts
January 04 2009 21:28 GMT
#9
haha no idea what it meant before micro explained it. like fusion, i thought it was going to be something related to G.O. and have some sort of xellos joke in it haha
Too_MuchZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Finland2818 Posts
January 04 2009 21:57 GMT
#10
On January 05 2009 05:39 fusionsdf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2009 05:35 nAi.PrOtOsS wrote:
Yea I just felt like saying that...So I did...


thats not a very good idea on these forums

for the OP: A description of what this means would make the OP better
not everyone can read swedish

and thanks to micro for the explanation, I hope the rest of you stop derailing this thread
(I thought this topic would be about G.O. lol)


its finnish though, close though.
Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
January 04 2009 22:28 GMT
#11
On January 05 2009 03:58 micronesia wrote:
Well this is a very lacking OP but I do want to point out that the same exact thing happened to me haha.

For those who are confused: go is a board game (see my much previous blog) and kgs has rankings. If you lose to someone, and then win vs good players, that first guy you lost to receives credit for being better than you after you beat the good players.... so rank can jump around a lot.

that sounds like a terrible system.
Lemonwalrus
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States5465 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-04 22:32:16
January 04 2009 22:31 GMT
#12
So as you grow as a player all of your past opponents ratings will be skewed because the computer thinks you are and have always been and will always be the same skill level?

Or is it just your first opponent?

Edit: And doesn't that mean that one single game could potentially change the stats of thousands of users?
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24753 Posts
January 04 2009 22:41 GMT
#13
On January 05 2009 07:28 Mastermind wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2009 03:58 micronesia wrote:
Well this is a very lacking OP but I do want to point out that the same exact thing happened to me haha.

For those who are confused: go is a board game (see my much previous blog) and kgs has rankings. If you lose to someone, and then win vs good players, that first guy you lost to receives credit for being better than you after you beat the good players.... so rank can jump around a lot.

that sounds like a terrible system.

On January 05 2009 07:31 Lemonwalrus wrote:
So as you grow as a player all of your past opponents ratings will be skewed because the computer thinks you are and have always been and will always be the same skill level?

Or is it just your first opponent?

Edit: And doesn't that mean that one single game could potentially change the stats of thousands of users?

Isn't this more or less how ELO works? Regardless, I think the effect of earlier games slowly wanes, so it isn't a big deal in the long run.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
Lemonwalrus
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States5465 Posts
January 04 2009 22:45 GMT
#14
Idk how ELO works tbh. But if that were the case, I would think it more fitting. I would say that progamers skill level is less likely to change very quickly. They are essentially all at the cutting edge, so even a small dip or rise in skill level can mean the difference between a title or a slump. However, I am sure most go players using this site are not professional, and in the course of ten games or less can become several times the player they were before.
Azrael1111
Profile Joined July 2008
United States550 Posts
January 04 2009 23:05 GMT
#15
Elo is simple, you start at 2000 points, whenever you beat someone you are given points based on the difference between your points, more points if the person you beat was higher and less if they were lower.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24753 Posts
January 04 2009 23:08 GMT
#16
On January 05 2009 08:05 Azrael1111 wrote:
Elo is simple, you start at 2000 points, whenever you beat someone you are given points based on the difference between your points, more points if the person you beat was higher and less if they were lower.

But I think it also keeps track of your history. If you win against someone on day one who had a 2000 elo, and then he wins straight to 2300, I think you benefit slightly.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
January 04 2009 23:08 GMT
#17
lol if micro----- didnt explain i wouldve been like HUHWTFISTHIS?! i opened it up..... iloveoov?? wtf.
Ryshi
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Canada361 Posts
January 04 2009 23:38 GMT
#18
It's only 21k... it doesn't matter how much you boost him. 30k to 10k is still a player learning the basics. (Equivalent to a D- on iccup?)
The World God Only Knows
Azrael1111
Profile Joined July 2008
United States550 Posts
January 04 2009 23:54 GMT
#19
On January 05 2009 08:08 micronesia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2009 08:05 Azrael1111 wrote:
Elo is simple, you start at 2000 points, whenever you beat someone you are given points based on the difference between your points, more points if the person you beat was higher and less if they were lower.

But I think it also keeps track of your history. If you win against someone on day one who had a 2000 elo, and then he wins straight to 2300, I think you benefit slightly.


Nope, not a typical ELO.
Lemonwalrus
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States5465 Posts
January 04 2009 23:58 GMT
#20
Wait, I thought ELO was specific to progaming...is it?

I'm retarded.
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