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So I did a search here on TL and found this. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=74006
Which in turn showed me the Korean Craig's' List which is awesome.
I'm just wondering if people who live//lived in Korea could just give any more helpful advice on how to live on a modest income.
I currently work a $12.39/hr job during the day at a factory and $8.75/hr at night plus tips at an Outback Steakhouse. I don't know if there are jobs that pay that well in Korea but I do have some cash saved up for the flight and moving over.
Is it possible that someone with a HSD but no college can find decent work in Korea? Is there a lot of competition for jobs at Restaurants and things like that? I am a native English speaker and I can also write and speak fluently in Spanish.
I've heard from Dan (Artosis) and others that Seoul can be an expensive place and I'm not looking to move into my own flat or anything like that. I'd actually prefer roommates who are fluent in Korean so I can learn the language faster.
Anyways. Enough rambling. Hope you guys can help! PM me or post here if you have anything to share.
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depends how long you work per day i guess but you're going to be splitting the cost of an apartment or wherever with another person?
then it should be ok imo...don't know about house fees there and such...
i thought that you were going to korea because of your outback steakhouse job back at where you live? or are you going there unemployed, seeking to look for a job?
maybe you can become an english teacher or some shit...for koreans like me even though you're fluent at english my aunt told me that you need some sort of degree but maybe it's ok since you're a foreigner
XD I'm no expert but let me tell you that at least food and stuff won't be so cost-heavy =) it's cheaperr then here for sure
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On December 02 2008 15:43 Psyonic_Reaver wrote:
I've heard from Dan (Artosis) and others that Seoul can be an expensive place and I'm not looking to move into my own flat or anything like that. I'd actually prefer roommates who are fluent in Korean so I can learn the language faster.
And play sc with him!!
lol
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On December 02 2008 15:49 CompX wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2008 15:43 Psyonic_Reaver wrote:
I've heard from Dan (Artosis) and others that Seoul can be an expensive place and I'm not looking to move into my own flat or anything like that. I'd actually prefer roommates who are fluent in Korean so I can learn the language faster.
And play sc with him!! lol
hahaha so true XD. Learn quicker hehe 
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Teaching English in Korea requires a 2 year degree. I lack that.
I will probably get a job easily enough at an Outback Steakhouse because my current manager can speak highly of me on my resume and if the interviewing manager decides to call or email him.
I currently work anywhere from 40-60 hours a week depending on things.
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you're splitting the rent fee with another person though right?
then it should be pretty manageable.
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Wow you work alot! I'm guessing you want to live in the bigger cities?
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I'm hoping to find a roommate or 2 or 3 yes. I highly doubt I could manage an apartment by myself let alone pay rent alone.
And I am planning on living in Seoul. So yeah, a bigger city. ^^
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Depends on which part of Seoul you're in. North is cheap, South is expensive.
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lol the more the better I guess, less pay for you you can teach them English and they, him, or her (it better be the last ^_^) teach you Korean in return.
You are working a lot too, so I doubt you'll have much trouble with managing your money. Things in Korea are VERY cheap, from (most) food to karaoke to internet cafe And there are so many things to do in Seoul I guess :D
Hell, I bet I could live a day with only 20 dollars for the day if I were in Korea.
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Sweden33719 Posts
I forgot what this was called, but lilsusie told me they have an alternative to the traditional rent-by-the-month, where you put down a large deposit for X number of months, then at the end of that time you get it all back.
I don't know/remember the exact details but it sounded pretty good to me.
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
2000 a week clubbing
600 a week at bars
800 a week on food
1000 a week on rent
300 a week on cabs
total: 4700 a week 18800 a month
you might want to find a new job
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
On December 02 2008 17:15 Rekrul wrote:
2000 a week clubbing
600 a week at bars
800 a week on food
1000 a week on rent
300 a week on cabs
total: 4700 a week 18800 a month
you might want to find a new job
150 a week clubbing if you mooch well
100 a week at bars if you mooch well
200 a week on food if you don't eat the best stuff
250 a week on rent if you live humble
80 a week on transportation if you take the subway mostly
total: 780 a week 3120 a month
man i just tried really hard to shave everything down and cant get below 3k a month
WTF
how do these kids survive in seoul
ugly gf's i guess
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On December 02 2008 16:21 FrozenArbiter wrote:
I forgot what this was called, but lilsusie told me they have an alternative to the traditional rent-by-the-month, where you put down a large deposit for X number of months, then at the end of that time you get it all back.
I don't know/remember the exact details but it sounded pretty good to me.
heh dan, not everyone can live like you.
Yeah, well to get a studio, south of the river he'd be putting about 30,000 USD into his apt. Of course you get 100% of that back when you move out but... that's a lot of money to front.
In the Kangnam area (South East area of Seoul) most studios in a small 4-5 story building, furnished will run you around 2 month's deposit and 800,000 to 1,000,000 won per month (+utilities) If you want to get an office-tel (which are more modern and in larger buildings) it'll be about 10K won deposit and then 1 mill per month.
If you go near the middle in the Itaewon area, rent is cheaper but the places are older and not as nice. Probably around 1 or 2 months rent deposit then around 400,000 to 700,000 a month.
Near the university area (North West) it's around 2 months rent deposit + 700,000ish a month.
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oO isn't itaewon where the foreigners live?
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
if you take all the different scum, from every country in the world, and pile them into one area...and throw in a bunch of ugly skanky korean sluts with gonnorhea, U get Itaewon.
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On December 02 2008 17:34 Rekrul wrote:
if you take all the different scum, from every country in the world, and pile them into one area...and throw in a bunch of ugly skanky korean sluts with gonnorhea, U get Itaewon.
LOL! I think there is a demand for a "Rekrul's guide to Seoul". Please write a book about this. ^^
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i've learned so much from this thread 
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great post rekrul, thanks for sharing. i don't know much about korea since i went like, three times :/
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i would imagine that you need to speak korean to interact with customers or coworkers if you do work there. if you dont speak korean, then you probably need a degree of some sort to do anything related to English or translation. so... without those, then it'll be much more difficult to land a job if you plan on living there.
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Holy crap that was awesome.
Korea actually sounds really cheap compared to here. only 1000 a month for an apartment?
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MrHoon
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On December 02 2008 17:34 Rekrul wrote:
if you take all the different scum, from every country in the world, and pile them into one area...and throw in a bunch of ugly skanky korean sluts with gonnorhea, U get Itaewon.
there was a time when korea wasn't full of skanky whores 
I blame shitty pop music and white people
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
It's still not in the good areas.
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Valhalla18444 Posts
On December 02 2008 18:12 MrHoon wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2008 17:34 Rekrul wrote:
if you take all the different scum, from every country in the world, and pile them into one area...and throw in a bunch of ugly skanky korean sluts with gonnorhea, U get Itaewon. there was a time when korea wasn't full of skanky whores I blame shitty pop music and white people
white people are to blame for pretty much everything
im white and whitey keeps me down all the time
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NeverGG
United Kingdom5399 Posts
You can live very cheaply in Seoul if you figure out the right places to shop for food etc - utility bills are also very inexpensive here (at least in comparison to England.) However, I think your main issue would be a visa seen as you're looking to neither teach, run your own business or work as a diplomat etc - and because you don't speak Korean. I'm pretty sure they don't allow people to come here to work as anything besides a limited number of professions - the most usual of those being as a teacher.
I'd check that out before you start thinking about living costs. Also working illegally here isn't a good idea - they've been cracking down on illegal teaching/private lessons in the last couple of years so it's really not worth the risk.
I'm also in total agreement with Rekrul - Itaewon is scummy. I don't know why people like it so much. My friends said it's because of the bookstore and foreign food shop, but you can go elsewhere for 90% of the items you can find there. It's just one boring street which looks really dirty in the day time.
I much prefer to go to shopping districts like Myeongdong, Namdaemun (for the market) and Gangnam (good food ^^.)
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Seoul can be a dirt cheap place to live imo. (and also really really fucking expensive). But if you're happy with a no frills life for a while the only financial consideration is accommodation imo.
As Susie says, north of the river is generally much cheaper than south. I reckon you can get a minimalistic but perfectly habitable place for 300,000 a month.
As you know already the job-hunting will be quite hard. I have seen literally ONE foreigner working in food/drink places. And he was a guy who could speak Korean fluently and was in fact the owner of the bar. I think the jobs that you would have a chance with in these places are the backroom staff because you wouldn't be able to communicate with the patrons.
Koreans put an incredible amount of emphasis on your educational background, especially uni degree. I know quite a few foreigners here and 99% of them are doing something requiring a degree.
There is more I want to say but I don't want to completely fuck up your hopes with negativism. (although imo its would be realism not pessimism)
HEY SHIT: I just had a brainwave. Have you considered working in the US military posts. These places are just like little Americas and the biggest one is in Yongsan (middle of Seoul). 90% of people in these places are US citizens so the requirement for Korean skills should be less of an issue.
Edit: oh crap. nevergg just mentioned the most important thing which i forgot which is the visa.
Edit2: Itaewon is indeed the bull's backside of Seoul.
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On December 02 2008 18:03 29 fps wrote:
i would imagine that you need to speak korean to interact with customers or coworkers if you do work there. if you dont speak korean, then you probably need a degree of some sort to do anything related to English or translation. so... without those, then it'll be much more difficult to land a job if you plan on living there.
This is right.
Mr reaver seems to be a little bit ignorant to the fact that 90% of korean's only speak korean and there is no chance of him getting a job like he mentioned. I think korean wages for low level jobs begin somewhere around 3000won per hour ($2 USD with current exchange rate) and average salary is much lower than usa in general. Their currency is so raped right now that it's not a good place to be working period (but a very good place to be living in while earning US poker dollars).
To give you some kind of hope I can tell you that there are english teachers in korea without degrees who either teach privately (1on1) or who work at an institute in a classroom setting under the table.
Regarding expenses in korea; it is a place where it's possible to live an extremely cheap life style taking the subway, living on the other side of the river, eating ramyun, and drinking soju (<2k/month) and a place that is possible to live an extremely expensive life style taking personalized escort taxis, living in a gangnam high rise, 0215445478 delivery 3x a day, and drinking night club whiskey (~10k/month). I've experienced and enjoyed both the expensive and the cheap life style (except I never lived on the other side of the river... fuck that).
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
ahhh the private drivers of smuft
gotta love those badass cabs
they run red lights infront of cops and speed away thru dark alley short cuts not stoping for any pedestrians
quality service
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i used to live in gang nam back in korea, then moved to vancouver... and i'm sure you'll like the states better. Yes, it has starcraft (the most important thing obv). Yes, it has the Korean girls who will be willing to watch you play starcraft. and Yes, playing starcraft on a date is viable.
But Korea isn't some random country where a foreign man without a degree or some special skill can easily get a decent job, and keep it for a relatively long time. The education in Korea is extremely competitive. It will be MUCH easier to get into a local college for a year, transfer to a decent college, and then get a degree to find other jobs.
If you are just REALLY in love with Korea and just want to live there, then I would recommend going to college that offer exchange student program to korean universities. Then you can live in Korea for 6 months~1 yr. See how it is, if you think you can adjust to the lifestyle in korea, and maybe find out more while living there.
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Don't go Korea unless you :
Are going to a pro team
Play poker and have friends there
Are already rich
Have money to invest in a joint venture
Have a degree and an organisation welcoming you there and offering you salary and housing opportunities
Have relatives living there
Are a whatever watersports pro - star - teacher - and got an opportunity teaching it in Busan
Tourist visiting for a few weeks
KOREA AIN'T CHEAP
Besides, as far as low living expenses lifestyle goes, even if you somehow get by your own self under the 1.5k usd /month mark, unless you have some friends over there it's gonna be tough.
I mean Korea's awesome, but you need money.
As it was previously stated :
People don't talk english
People don't work in ENGLISH
People don't hire foreigners in restaurants unless you're the cousin of a mexican US army drop out that resides in an underground itaewon dump eating fried rats for supper and that owns his own nacho place.
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wow you rich people make korea sound 100% better from a exchange-students perspective. I guess money does make everything better.
Anyways going to korea as an exchange student, you'll live a cheap/inexpensive life but its your friends that you meet here that make the experience interesting.
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infinity21
Canada6683 Posts
Wow that's pretty expensive. I spend about $7-800 per month in Canada :o
I still want to go for the experience and teach english or something while I'm there but not sure if a teaching job will be able to cover my living costs now haha
I guess having relatives there will chop down the costs by a lot?
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If you're American find a way to see if you can work at the American bases in Korea without having to enlist in the Army.
Otherwise, get an English-teaching job. I've had extensive tutoring jobs in Korea as a high school and college student so a degree isn't necessary.
Honestly, you should get a college degree than apply for a position at Seoul Foreign School. The school provides a nice 2 Bedroom lodging for all faculty members. Plus, you get paid in dollars, which used to be awesome before the US economy started sucking. On top of that, you'll be surrounded by an English-speaking community.
If you want a really cheap place to rent, you could also check out Incheon. It's right next to Seoul and rental prices there will be at least half of what they cost in Seoul. The downside is that it takes an hour to commute by subway.
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Belgium9945 Posts
The dollar-won currency rate is pretty important, and as smuft said, the times are bad to work in Korea.
If you can get a job in the military camps (without enlisting) though, you'd be getting an american wage, and can spend it well now that the won is cheap.
Also, it's gonna be hard getting a visa without that US military job lol.
good luck
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Belgium9945 Posts
On December 02 2008 21:45 Boonbag wrote:
Don't go Korea unless you :
Are going to a pro team
Play poker and have friends there
Are already rich
Have money to invest in a joint venture
Have a degree and an organisation welcoming you there and offering you salary and housing opportunities
Have relatives living there
Are a whatever watersports pro - star - teacher - and got an opportunity teaching it in Busan
Tourist visiting for a few weeks
or unless you have a:
pretty face and can live off that
LOL?
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NeverGG
United Kingdom5399 Posts
On December 02 2008 23:00 MayorITC wrote:
If you're American find a way to see if you can work at the American bases in Korea without having to enlist in the Army.
Otherwise, get an English-teaching job. I've had extensive tutoring jobs in Korea as a high school and college student so a degree isn't necessary.
Honestly, you should get a college degree than apply for a position at Seoul Foreign School. The school provides a nice 2 Bedroom lodging for all faculty members. Plus, you get paid in dollars, which used to be awesome before the US economy started sucking. On top of that, you'll be surrounded by an English-speaking community.
If you want a really cheap place to rent, you could also check out Incheon. It's right next to Seoul and rental prices there will be at least half of what they cost in Seoul. The downside is that it takes an hour to commute by subway.
The (University) degree is definitely necessary for all foreigners wanting to teach in hagwons, public or University institutions - you won't even get an interview without it because it's a basic requirement of a teaching visa here. I'm not sure about the specific institute you mentioned, but a degree is the first thing they ask for along with 2 copies of your sealed university transcripts.
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Alright. Thanks for the advice everybody! And for that thread Rekrul. ^^
So in light of all this... I need to get rich, get an education, or become fluent in Korean before moving. *I'm crap at SC so joining a pro team is not an option. ^^*
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Korea (South)11570 Posts
go to college, and do study abroad, that way you really can tell if you want to spend al that money to move there
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You can try to find like... what are those things called? Where foreigners house with Korean residents? Homestay? There are programs that can find you homestay prospects in Korea, if that helps. Costs should be much cheaper, and meals are usually included. Good luck!
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
On December 02 2008 23:16 RaGe wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2008 21:45 Boonbag wrote:
Don't go Korea unless you :
Are going to a pro team
Play poker and have friends there
Are already rich
Have money to invest in a joint venture
Have a degree and an organisation welcoming you there and offering you salary and housing opportunities
Have relatives living there
Are a whatever watersports pro - star - teacher - and got an opportunity teaching it in Busan
Tourist visiting for a few weeks
or unless you have a: pretty face and can live off that LOL?
LOOOOOOOL
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On December 02 2008 23:44 Psyonic_Reaver wrote:
Alright. Thanks for the advice everybody! And for that thread Rekrul. ^^
So in light of all this... I need to get rich, get an education, or become fluent in Korean before moving. *I'm crap at SC so joining a pro team is not an option. ^^*
Yea bro, seriously.
Getting an undergrad isn't even a big deal. You can do it in something like the arts even.
You like acting??? =D DRAMA DEGREEEEEEE (Even in production, ya know, the peeps who work the labour stuff to get everything going right, awesome people)
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All right! Stamp your name on it, and throw a few dozen copies into libraries around the world!
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On December 02 2008 23:26 nevergg wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2008 23:00 MayorITC wrote:
If you're American find a way to see if you can work at the American bases in Korea without having to enlist in the Army.
Otherwise, get an English-teaching job. I've had extensive tutoring jobs in Korea as a high school and college student so a degree isn't necessary.
Honestly, you should get a college degree than apply for a position at Seoul Foreign School. The school provides a nice 2 Bedroom lodging for all faculty members. Plus, you get paid in dollars, which used to be awesome before the US economy started sucking. On top of that, you'll be surrounded by an English-speaking community.
If you want a really cheap place to rent, you could also check out Incheon. It's right next to Seoul and rental prices there will be at least half of what they cost in Seoul. The downside is that it takes an hour to commute by subway. The (University) degree is definitely necessary for all foreigners wanting to teach in hagwons, public or University institutions - you won't even get an interview without it because it's a basic requirement of a teaching visa here. I'm not sure about the specific institute you mentioned, but a degree is the first thing they ask for along with 2 copies of your sealed university transcripts.
I was gonna say the same thing. Within the last year the new president started crackin' down on the whities who are trying to teach without a degree. =/
Good luck, dude.
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Itaewon is a horrible place. its like it's trying to mimic the crappy aspects of western cities
I work in Myeongdong and live in Idae, it's pretty awesome here, (theres an outback opposite my building you could work at : D)
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I survived for 3 weeks on $140 w/ free housing.
Food is gnar cheap if you don't care about what you eat
Always go places with friends and split the bill, so cheap that way.
If you aren't insane about clubbing and whatever, there goes all expensive junk
Soju flows like water = cheap
PC Bangs are like $1/hr
Clothes are insane expensive, so don't buy them... at least brand stuff. Go to subway stations and buy cheap crap from the 1,000,000 little stores they have. All rip-off stuff.
Transportation is like $.80 for the subway, so whatever. $.50 for bus. You can find that on the street.
Walk places
Do private tutoring for SKY (Seoul National, Korea Uni, Yonsei Uni) university students, make like $40/hr+ doing conversational English. The less Korean you know, the better. Parents want their kids forced to rely on English. Use the premise of "business language" or some BS.
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Heh. Well, I'll try to figure something out. The last thing I want to do is fly over there and go broke with no way home. I really don't want to rely on my *cough* good looks and prostitute myself.
Thanks for all the feedback. Very informative.
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
yeah whats with all these kids with no degrees just wanting to 'go to korea'
i mean wtf do u wanna get outa it...work a shitty job all day and pray u score an ugly gf?
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I'm pretty tired of working the same shitty jobs here in the States.
To give some background. I lived in Guatemala for 2 years and it was a great experience to learn a new language/culture. Ever since I got home in '06 I've just been working and working and working the same shitty jobs in the same shitty hometown where I grew up.
I am just feeling the desire to just GO somewhere else and meet new people/culture. Like I did with Guatemala. I figured I'm really into StarCraft so why not live in Korea for a year or so and take in all that? I'm not afraid of trying to learn another language or living in a completely different culture. Hell, Korea can't be nearly as third world as Guatemala.
The only problem I see is getting a job in Korea. I'm sure I could get a job SOMEWHERE but I want to make sure I can really afford to make ends meet and pay bills on time. I don't party or club a lot. I mainly like to do my drinking at a friend's house or another neutral place. Clubs and bars are usually disgusting, with dirty, ugly women hitting on you or random jackasses wanting to fight you because you looked at them funny. *Then backing down because they are pussies.*
I would be more then content walking, taking a bus or the subway to wherever I needed to go. In Guatemala I walked almost everywhere. But I really shouldn't compare an Central American culture to an Asian one. VERY DIFFERENT.
Hmm. It's late and I've got to work both jobs for the next few days. Need sleep....
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well Brent, if you move to Korea, you'd be doing the exact same boring / menial / dumb jobs in Korea that you would be doing in the states, but probably getting treated worse / paid worse because you are a foreigner.
I think the best advice (like people said) is to go to school and go to Korea on a study-abroad program. I don't know how community colleges are where you're at (or university or state colleges, or w/e you choose to do) work, but at least in CA the community colleges even have study abroad programs. If you go to Korea that way you'll actually have a premise for being there (school related) so you won't have to worry about cleaning dishes or toilets at a restaurant or w/e (some menial job) - you will have less expenses, be with a group of people who speak English, to act as a support/initial group of friends, and probably have a nice taste of Korea and see if it's something you really want to commit to in terms of living there.
If I'm not mistaken, when you went to Guatemala it was for some Church-related program right? Which is good because you actually had a purpose for being there, which probably made the whole trip better - it's not like you packed you bags up and was like "Hey, I'm going to go to Guatemala!" , IMO it's much easier when you are going to a foreign country, especially if you don't speak the language or w/e , to actually have some sort of purpose.
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
Clubs and bars are usually disgusting, with dirty, ugly women hitting on you or random jackasses wanting to fight you because you looked at them funny. *Then backing down because they are pussies.
LOLOLOL HAHAHAHAH
that is never the case in korea
unless u go to one of those shitty army bars in itaewon bring some hot girls and order a bunch of bottles.....then they get ANNNNGRRRY
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Best Seoul gay club is in itaewon tho >.>
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On December 02 2008 18:55 nevergg wrote:
I'm also in total agreement with Rekrul - Itaewon is scummy. I don't know why people like it so much. My friends said it's because of the bookstore and foreign food shop, but you can go elsewhere for 90% of the items you can find there. It's just one boring street which looks really dirty in the day time.
I much prefer to go to shopping districts like Myeongdong, Namdaemun (for the market) and Gangnam (good food ^^.)
Isn't Itaewon where foreigners go to pick up Korean girls? I know there's a place where Korean girls flock to to meet europeans and americans, can't remember the district. Maybe lilsusie know/s
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NeverGG
United Kingdom5399 Posts
On December 03 2008 15:51 Rekrul wrote:
yeah whats with all these kids with no degrees just wanting to 'go to korea'
i mean wtf do u wanna get outa it...work a shitty job all day and pray u score an ugly gf?
I know a lot of people (especially from Canada.) who come out here to save money (by living cheaply) usually to repay student loans or other debt back home. It seems to be the main motivation of most of the teachers (in my experience anyway.)
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Reaver, instead of going to korea, how about another spanish speaking country? Peru or chile, or maybe just to spain.
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I only briefly skimmed this thread and I don't remember reading something that answers this question:
Why Korea?
Some of my experiences in Korea:
I lived in Myongdong (?) for four-five days this summer.
- Cost of living in Seoul is fairly cheap. I like to judge the cost of living by the cost of a bottle of water in a convenient store. Seoul was around 60-70 cents, so it's about half of what we are used to. I consider this a pretty decent estimate in terms of hotel, transportation, restaurants, drinks, and admission tickets to various places.
- If you like touring, there really isn't that much in Seoul/Korea, just a couple of gates and temples; but of course, SC...
- The city is pretty crowded and fairly dirty. Public bathrooms are generally disgusting (still much better than China  ).
- The subway system is pretty decent, probably more lines than you would expect.
- Almost nobody speaks English...
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
next time u stay in a country for 4-5 days and learn nothing don't act like you did
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well rekrul not many of us live the life as you...rich bastard X_X
i wanna go back to korea cuz...i like the city life XDDD
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
On December 04 2008 04:09 clazziquai wrote:
well rekrul not many of us live the life as you...rich bastard X_X
i wanna go back to korea cuz...i like the city life XDDD
what are you replying to
im not rich
if i didnt spend 15k a month i would be.
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hey Rekrul, how come they let you and the other foreigners live in Korea? I mean, I can't imagine they give long term Visas to poker players. Or did you find some way to stay there without a visa?
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With a tourist visa you must leave the country every 3 months. So all you do is fly to Japan for a day and then fly back. I assume that's how it's done?
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This thread made me wanna go korea too, finland is pretty boring country =/
I love korea culture and ppl
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NeverGG
United Kingdom5399 Posts
On December 04 2008 09:23 Psyonic_Reaver wrote:
With a tourist visa you must leave the country every 3 months. So all you do is fly to Japan for a day and then fly back. I assume that's how it's done?
That's exactly how it's done - but it sucks in terms of the amount of time/money it takes -_-; It's cheaper to go to China apparently.
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On December 04 2008 09:33 nevergg wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2008 09:23 Psyonic_Reaver wrote:
With a tourist visa you must leave the country every 3 months. So all you do is fly to Japan for a day and then fly back. I assume that's how it's done? That's exactly how it's done - but it sucks in terms of the amount of time/money it takes -_-; It's cheaper to go to China apparently.
I'm chinese, I've to admit that the education/work in China sux
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On December 04 2008 10:21 emucxg wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2008 09:33 nevergg wrote:On December 04 2008 09:23 Psyonic_Reaver wrote:
With a tourist visa you must leave the country every 3 months. So all you do is fly to Japan for a day and then fly back. I assume that's how it's done? That's exactly how it's done - but it sucks in terms of the amount of time/money it takes -_-; It's cheaper to go to China apparently. I'm chinese, I've to admit that the education/work in China sux
she means flying to china and back to renew the tourist visa
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On December 04 2008 04:03 Rekrul wrote:
next time u stay in a country for 4-5 days and learn nothing don't act like you did
you know what, i'm gonna defend Rek here - I feel like a ton of people who have lived here for a few days or weeks can only give you a GLIMPSE of what they know to be truth. please stop generalizing about a country you've only dabbled your feet in. after you've been here for a few years, THEN you can make generalizations.
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
thank you for your defense, little susan
for visa stuff yeah if u transfer a decent sum of $ u can get an investor visa that lasts 1 yr and is renewable...u can just send it to a bank lol
but yea 3 months is what it is...which is no problem for me cuz i travel much more often than that
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After doing some of my own research and taking the advice given here. I think I'll wait another year or two and make sure I really have the cash to help with deposits, transport, and the visa. I'll use the time to keep studying Korean and maybe I'll have time to go to school for a few basic classes to do a study abroad thing.
Thanks again everybody!
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On December 04 2008 15:24 Psyonic_Reaver wrote:
After doing some of my own research and taking the advice given here. I think I'll wait another year or two and make sure I really have the cash to help with deposits, transport, and the visa. I'll use the time to keep studying Korean and maybe I'll have time to go to school for a few basic classes to do a study abroad thing.
Thanks again everybody!
well, GL/GG!
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