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So I went to some seminar with a friend today, it featured private schools such as Harvard, Duke, Georgetown, UPenn and Stanford and I loved it. At first, I was really worried about going to college b/c the financial stuff but these schools are so rich they'll let you in for free (of course there are rules, like your family has to make less than $60,000, and not to get personal, but mine doesnt) This is really gonna motivate me to study harder now b/c I wanna get into a good school that will pay for my tuition and other things I will need. However, I'm a junior and my GPA hasn't been great, its like 3.5ish, and thats not near enough to get to one of those top schools. Also, my school doesn't weigh AP classes but I'm sure the colleges will know that, they had some long discussion about how they will know what your schools like.
Are there public schools that have started this trend of paying for almost all your tuition, b/c its so hard to get in one of those, especially harvard, which is like 7% chance of getting in. And even though I would love if I got accepted, the whole being asian and having to go to those cliche schools that asian parents know only about those is sorta stupid. And feel free to talk about stuff and how you got scholarships and what you put in your resume to get merit based scholarships if your university or college does that, or if you got in a school for free basically. thanks!
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some points I feel like I have to point out.
a) Harvard is not a public school. -_-;;
b) Asian with a 3.5 by junior year is not good enough to get into one of the schools with a large enough endowment to pay you through completely. I don't want to burst your bubble, but you have to face the truth. Maybe if you came from a poor farming family of seventeen in the Yucatan Peninsula or something you could, but I'm guessing middle class Asian right? Not very likely.
c) Live in California? Try UCs. Cheap/ easy to get into. Even the ones with low requirements aren't that bad.
d) Don't expect to get a full ride from very many colleges unless you really are dirt-poor and and outstanding student.
My 2 cents.
Edit: I think Rice and USC will also pay a lot of your tuition. Especially USC. Not really that sure about anywhere else though. Ask someone smarter.
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On September 25 2008 13:42 SiegeTanksandBlueGoo wrote:
some points I feel like I have to point out.
a) Harvard is not a public school. -_-;;
b) Asian with a 3.5 by junior year is not good enough to get into one of the schools with a large enough endowment to pay you through completely. I don't want to burst your bubble, but you have to face the truth. Maybe if you came from a poor farming family of seventeen in the Yucatan Peninsula or something you could, but I'm guessing middle class Asian right? Not very likely.
c) Live in California? Try UCs. Cheap/ easy to get into. Even the ones with low requirements aren't that bad.
d) Don't expect to get a full ride from very many colleges unless you really are dirt-poor and and outstanding student.
My 2 cents.
Edit: I think Rice and USC will also pay a lot of your tuition. Especially USC. Not really that sure about anywhere else though. Ask someone smarter.
it featured private schools such as Harvard, Duke, Georgetown, UPenn and Stanford and I loved it
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A lot of college will look at if you got the national merit scholar, if you do its usually free money (or at least a little) this is both public and private, a private institution will often have scholarships for people that are in a lower income bracket, but i highly doubt public colleges will
Also, extracurricular are important, they(admissions) want to see that you are dedicated, can balance school with extras, and have some unique aspect that they can bring to the university. High test scores, good gpa, well rounded extra curricular are vital for entry to private colleges.
P.s. Rice is really stingy with money, whereas USC is not. I know i applied to both and got into both
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come here to USC.
i currently attend for free
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an asian w/out an unweighted 4.0 gpa :\
good luck :s~~
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On September 25 2008 13:28 il0seonpurpose wrote:
So I went to some seminar with a friend today, it featured private schools such as Harvard, Duke, Georgetown, UPenn and Stanford and I loved it. At first, I was really worried about going to college b/c the financial stuff but these schools are so rich they'll let you in for free (of course there are rules, like your family has to make less than $60,000, and not to get personal, but mine doesnt) This is really gonna motivate me to study harder now b/c I wanna get into a good school that will pay for my tuition and other things I will need. However, I'm a junior and my GPA hasn't been great, its like 3.5ish, and thats not near enough to get to one of those top schools. Also, my school doesn't weigh AP classes but I'm sure the colleges will know that, they had some long discussion about how they will know what your schools like.
Are there public schools that have started this trend of paying for almost all your tuition, b/c its so hard to get in one of those, especially harvard, which is like 7% chance of getting in. And even though I would love if I got accepted, the whole being asian and having to go to those cliche schools that asian parents know only about those is sorta stupid. And feel free to talk about stuff and how you got scholarships and what you put in your resume to get merit based scholarships if your university or college does that, or if you got in a school for free basically. thanks!
No, not really. I think Harvard/Yale give the most financial aid, mainly because they are loaded. Public schools don't give much especially to students out-of-state.
My parents don't pressure me at all. I follow my own goals  Do your parents expect you to go to HYPS or something?
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On September 25 2008 14:19 LosingID8 wrote:
come here to USC.
i currently attend for free
DON'T go to University of Second Choice.
Haha, I am just joking.
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On September 25 2008 13:46 Divinek wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2008 13:42 SiegeTanksandBlueGoo wrote:
some points I feel like I have to point out.
a) Harvard is not a public school. -_-;;
b) Asian with a 3.5 by junior year is not good enough to get into one of the schools with a large enough endowment to pay you through completely. I don't want to burst your bubble, but you have to face the truth. Maybe if you came from a poor farming family of seventeen in the Yucatan Peninsula or something you could, but I'm guessing middle class Asian right? Not very likely.
c) Live in California? Try UCs. Cheap/ easy to get into. Even the ones with low requirements aren't that bad.
d) Don't expect to get a full ride from very many colleges unless you really are dirt-poor and and outstanding student.
My 2 cents.
Edit: I think Rice and USC will also pay a lot of your tuition. Especially USC. Not really that sure about anywhere else though. Ask someone smarter. it featured private schools such as Harvard, Duke, Georgetown, UPenn and Stanford and I loved it
Are there public schools that have started this trend of paying for almost all your tuition, b/c its so hard to get in one of those, especially harvard, which is like 7% chance of getting in.
Reading the whole fucking OP before you start rebutting. -_-;;
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On September 25 2008 14:39 SiegeTanksandBlueGoo wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2008 13:46 Divinek wrote:On September 25 2008 13:42 SiegeTanksandBlueGoo wrote:
some points I feel like I have to point out.
a) Harvard is not a public school. -_-;;
b) Asian with a 3.5 by junior year is not good enough to get into one of the schools with a large enough endowment to pay you through completely. I don't want to burst your bubble, but you have to face the truth. Maybe if you came from a poor farming family of seventeen in the Yucatan Peninsula or something you could, but I'm guessing middle class Asian right? Not very likely.
c) Live in California? Try UCs. Cheap/ easy to get into. Even the ones with low requirements aren't that bad.
d) Don't expect to get a full ride from very many colleges unless you really are dirt-poor and and outstanding student.
My 2 cents.
Edit: I think Rice and USC will also pay a lot of your tuition. Especially USC. Not really that sure about anywhere else though. Ask someone smarter. it featured private schools such as Harvard, Duke, Georgetown, UPenn and Stanford and I loved it Are there public schools that have started this trend of paying for almost all your tuition, b/c its so hard to get in one of those, especially harvard, which is like 7% chance of getting in. Reading the whole fucking OP before you start rebutting. -_-;;
I actually used something called common sense to figure out that it was probably a grammar error in the second paragraph. By "one of those" I could tell he was talking about schools that pay for most of your tuition, not public schools.
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try looking at liberal arts schools. their admissions are usually more personal. if they feel you belong there, they'll probably accept you, even if you're grade isn't the best (this is not to say you can have a B average and expect to get into pomona or williams; they're just more flexible). four schools i think are underrated by asian parents are: carnegie mellon, northwestern, tufts, bu
edit: seriously dont worry about money too much. if you find a school you love, go for it. there's always a way to bypass the money problem
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Come to U of Chicago
we have moneys ^^
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On September 25 2008 14:28 paper wrote:
an asian w/out an unweighted 4.0 gpa :\
good luck :s~~
I'm an Asian who had like a 3.9+ unweighted gpa.
I still didn't get into Harvard or MIT. =[[[[
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need based financial aid: they put a bunch of of numbers into a computer and figure out how much you should be paying. and you can get pretty good loans for the difference between what you can actually pay and what they think you can pay.
state schools are cheaper.
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On September 25 2008 16:40 geometryb wrote:
need based financial aid: they put a bunch of of numbers into a computer and figure out how much you should be paying. and you can get pretty good loans for the difference between what you can actually pay and what they think you can pay.
state schools are cheaper.
not necessarily. true in many cases, but not all. contrary to popular belief, the less your family makes, the more affordable private schools are (once you get to lower-middle class)
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On September 25 2008 16:34 raiame wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2008 14:28 paper wrote:
an asian w/out an unweighted 4.0 gpa :\
good luck :s~~ I'm an Asian who had like a 3.9+ unweighted gpa. I still didn't get into Harvard or MIT. =[[[[
that's because you need the 4.0 unweighted (which is a given), killer essays and a meaningful, consistent passion for something that translates into tons of hours of community service or work. fuck leadership positions; they don't mean shit anymore
but you didn't even pass the 4.0 test :\
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thanks guys, but i would not go to any of my in state schools, i live in kentucky and the big ones are university of kentucky and university of u of l, eew.
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You have a lot of catching up to do. Study for the SAT religiously. Do you do any sports? Play an instrument? Win competitions with it or something. Take the hardest classes you can possibly take and get straight A's in them. Take courses at a local college, ace those. I wish you the best of luck.
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Never give up hope
People have gotten into those colleges with your grades. It's rare but it happens
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Its not that I wanna actually get in those ivy league schools, but it just gave me a glimpse of hope that money isn't something I should worry about.
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oh sorry i misread a bit
you can probably get some regent scholars of you boost your grades up and also, a 3.5 before the start of junior year isn't bad at all. I started 3.4 before junior year and boosted it to 3.7~ with the help of some community college classes. Public schools such as the UC's don't even care about your freshmen year (apparently) and this seems to be true for my case because my freshmen year was pretty shitty and got me denied from privates but not from the UC's.
Top UC's like UCLA and Berkeley aren't easy to get into. UCLA is the most applied college throughout the nation but they accept only about 19-20% of those but if you have the test scores you can make it up. Also need a good essay
Also, there is the PSAT coming up. If you get into 99 percentile (roughly 2200 score) you can become a national merit scholar if your other academics are also fairly good.
you can also apply for some scholarships online, although some seem to be scams or plain shady. My friends tried out for a coca-cola scholarship and my friend, being korean, applied for a korean scholarship and got one
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On September 26 2008 06:33 il0seonpurpose wrote:
Its not that I wanna actually get in those ivy league schools, but it just gave me a glimpse of hope that money isn't something I should worry about.
If money isn't something to worry about, why not try to get into those ivies
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Asian with 3.5 unweighted GPA? It's already gg for your ivy league dreams. Although one person at my public high school got into brown with a 4.0 gpa and only 1750 SAT, but she had a incredible hardship story. If you work hard this year, you might get into a decent UC like UC Davis or even UC San Diego. UC San Diego incoming freshman, for example, has a average GPA for 4.06 and 1940 for SAT.
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i got a full ride offer from a private school better than the best public school in my state (who is making me pay a good amount).
sometimes privates are better.
people are just retarded and don't bother looking.
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Yay atleast someone else out there has common sense!
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On September 26 2008 08:41 Kami wrote:
Asian with 3.5 unweighted GPA? It's already gg for your ivy league dreams. Although one person at my public high school got into brown with a 4.0 gpa and only 1750 SAT, but she had a incredible hardship story. If you work hard this year, you might get into a decent UC like UC Davis or even UC San Diego. UC San Diego incoming freshman, for example, has a average GPA for 4.06 and 1940 for SAT.
UCs get tougher and tougher everyday. fock!!
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But the fact that you live in South Korea (international) kinda guarantees you a spot at a top school as long as you're not a dumbass. American colleges love accepting international students.
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haha no faronel, well I live in america, i just like putting south korea b/c cuz I was born there.
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are you a US Citizen? if you aren't a citizen it will be even tougher to get financial aid. you are kinda stuck between a rock and a hard place. being asian doesn't give you great possibilities for financial aid unless there are some qualities outside of your GPA / SAT score that make you REALLY stand out.
with average grades, you aren't likely to get many merit based scholarships or other financial aid. my friend (hispanic) has worse grades than me (he's like 3.2 GPA I have a 3.8) - and he's basically getting a full ride at UCSD, and I get absolutely 0 financial aid. it's bm.
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well i have to get my green card, and if i get that then i can get financial aid.
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On September 26 2008 15:59 il0seonpurpose wrote:
well i have to get my green card, and if i get that then i can get financial aid.
just out of curiosity, how long have you been living in US?
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On September 26 2008 08:41 Kami wrote:
Asian with 3.5 unweighted GPA? It's already gg for your ivy league dreams. Although one person at my public high school got into brown with a 4.0 gpa and only 1750 SAT, but she had a incredible hardship story. If you work hard this year, you might get into a decent UC like UC Davis or even UC San Diego. UC San Diego incoming freshman, for example, has a average GPA for 4.06 and 1940 for SAT.
Wait, wait, isn't the SAT max score 1800?
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Yeah, you won't get in with 3.5 gpa. Unless you have found a new microorganism, or have gotten into the International Olympiad.
So start preparing for the Olympiad. Get a gold medal at nationals, and win the Internationals. You'll get in anywhere.
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Also, Harvard won't give you financial aid, because you don't even have your green card.
Non citizens have to be top notch in order to get in. Usually, the international students are much smarter than the US citizens at top universities.
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On September 26 2008 16:26 OneOther wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2008 15:59 il0seonpurpose wrote:
well i have to get my green card, and if i get that then i can get financial aid. just out of curiosity, how long have you been living in US?
almost 11 years, it sucks.
Again, I wasn't implying that I thought I could go to harvard, that lecture place I went to gave me alot of good info and somewhat hope that I can go to better schools if i study my butt off from this year to senior year.
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