I agree with you Plexa, I have been saying this for a while now actually. He should retire and not get embarrassed by random no namers, which he will be, if he attempts to make a come back.

Zortch

Canada635 Posts

August 09 2008 01:59 GMT

#142

Everyone says that its so hard to compete these days because of the extremely high level thats being played so Boxer won't be able to cut it. But its hard for everyone. I don't see why Boxer has less of a chance of rising to the challenge compared to any of the other progamers or amatures trying to go pro have. If anything I would say he should have an easier time due to his experience.

WorldCommunist8

United States226 Posts

August 09 2008 02:06 GMT

#143

I disagree, because of thim limits ACE has placed on BoxeR. Yes, it's better than nothing, but his playing time is severely limited. When he leaves the air force and returns to a full time schedule, he will definitely have a much better chance at reinventing himself once again.

Also, I believe the BoxeR effect is gone, and a new "effect" has come into play in his advantage. I call it "The July Effect" because he demonstrated it so well. It's simple. Younger players are underestimating old players who were on a decline. They don't prepare enough and they get bit by it in the end. BoxeR is like the Brett Favre of StarCraft. Just when we think it's time to write him off, he shocks us yet again.

I believe.

jimminy_kriket

Canada5536 Posts

August 09 2008 02:06 GMT

#144

boxer is still doing good. especially considering hes on ace. Plexa die.

Spritescaper

United States63 Posts

August 09 2008 02:16 GMT

#145

Boxer has repeatedly stated that he wants to continue being a progamer to his thirties... I don't think there's even the slightest shadow of a doubt that his will to play is very strong.

He may not be the feared and awe-inspiring player in Starcraft that he once was (although we still catch glimpses of his brilliance to this day), but if this guy wants to keep playing Starcraft, then damn it if I'm not gonna support his decision every step of the way.

On a related note, Boxer is the iconic player in what I like to refer to as the "oldies triumvirate" consisting of Boxer, Nada, and July. Starcraft will never cease to be enjoyable for me so long as the pride of the veterans continue to make their presence felt in the progaming scene.

SilverSkyLark

Philippines8437 Posts

August 09 2008 02:56 GMT

#146

As much as I like BoxeR, I'm forced to agree with this, unless he qualifies for the OSL and gets a Golden mouse.

He should coach...

Sadist

United States7328 Posts

August 09 2008 03:06 GMT

#147

Dont agree at all, telling someone to quit before they even try to comeback is stupid.

Give him a chance, you are definitely selling the man short. Just because he didnt win those OSLs they werent failures. Hell make a nice comeback IMO. Maybe he wont be the best player, but hell be up there again, hes streaky as hell and when he gets on a roll watch the fuck out.

iloveHieu

United States1919 Posts

August 09 2008 03:11 GMT

#148

disagree, golden mouse would lose its meaning if the Emperor doesn't have it, it was meant for him anyways -_-

becoming the first progamer to reach age 30 is also an accomplishment I think, he'll do fine.

HooHa!

United States688 Posts

August 09 2008 03:31 GMT

#149

I disagree with the cheese remark. Now, Flash, from the beginning, his crazy cheeses were something to notice for me, of course a few big wins against some bonjwas and former bonjwas, his play was more closely watched. His gaming was reckless and wild. Living up to his name Flash, just winning instantly. July's recent drone drill, how awesome was that? Its just straight balls.

What I love about boxer is that he DOES have these extremes in his playing. And that his name is everything, his reputation. He definitely isn't out of the competition yet, Hes doing what he loves. And hes doing it awesome.

To me, he is the Sakuraba of Starcraft. He comes in with a new trick every time it seems. And he goes for a specific hardcore style that just carries itself through the game. And its entertaining to watch, even though it isn't straight up perfect micro, or he isn't just creating armies out of nothing impressively. His games are emotional, they really mean more than just a win. Now, this doesn't take away anything from the current top players. They have great fire in their play too.

Now those who don't know who Kazushi Sakuraba, hes a japanese MMA fighter passed his prime who was a superstar who ranked among the highest a few years back and in the late 90's. But otherwise, watching his fights were something else. He wasn't the best, but his play was unique and just unorthodox.

I hope he still plays in pro matches till hes 30.

In fact competition nowandays is so tight. ANYONE can take the title of champ it seems. Like Jaedong and Flash and fOrGG are all top of their game, Best is kicking trash, JulyZerg makes a comeback, Midas is coming back, Xellos makes a brief spot in the stage, Nada is doing great. These extra diamond and platinum mice may be possible to be snagged. With how tight the competition is nowandays.

Archaic

United States4024 Posts

August 09 2008 03:52 GMT

#150

Boxer was one of the strongest players but that wasn't why he got so big. There have been many great players who slowly faded away, but Boxer was one who stayed. Why? It was because it was always how he played, not how well he played (if that makes any sense). No matter what, whether he wins or loses, the games he plays are almost always exciting.

It is just the charisma that he represents through his play, and his "ballsiness" that make his games exciting. Not to mention everything else he did and pioneered. I certainly agree with him being the most influential player but it was just that spark that he always had, time and time again, that made him such a great player (not necessarily in skill).

One good example of it is when Boxer starts out playing standard, but he just randomly decides to do stuff that is insanely unorthodox or just off standard, such as Boxer vs Odin in ProLeague.

TW WiNNinG 54

United States250 Posts

August 09 2008 04:30 GMT

#151

Boxer shouldn't necessarily drop it all. He'd be an awesome coach/mentor.

d(O.o)a

Canada5066 Posts

August 09 2008 04:51 GMT

#152

I respect Boxer's determination however I agree that he really shouldn't be playing these days and like you said if he were a coach or player/coach that would be awesome. I just miss watching him play back in 2002 and thinking... Wow what if I could be like him someday. He inspired me to play terran for 4 years. I think he is a great role model but it's time for him to hang up his professional gaming towel.

Luddite

United States2315 Posts

August 09 2008 04:54 GMT

#153

What? Reading your summary of Boxer's career made me realize for the first time just how many times he's slumped and then come roaring back. It's almost as much as Nada. So... now he's slumping again. How can you say he won't come back again, when he has as much practice time as the new kids?

zerofear

Mexico44 Posts

August 09 2008 04:55 GMT

#154

i kinda agree, but as someone said its stupid to quit before tryn your best, and i see boxer is decided, constance and focus can defeat skills and reaction time. if boxer is gonna be on top is something i dont know, but he definitely have to try.

Xstatic

United States765 Posts

August 09 2008 05:15 GMT

#155

So what if he slumps? So what if he plays poorly? Is there a rule that says you have to win to play?

If so, most of us would have quit long ago.

Losing is a part of life. But instead of giving up when we lose, the defeat only fuels our passion to succeed, to come back and defeat our enemy. Boxer exemplifies the core of Starcraft, the truth of what makes this game so awesome; we lose, we go back and learn, improve, and come back for victory. As long as Starcraft is around, Boxer will always have a place.

Unbelievable237

Korea (South)78 Posts

August 09 2008 05:17 GMT

#156

Even though I'am a big fan of Boxer, I agree that he should quit, but I hope he will keep his fame by becoming a coach, like oov and kingdom

EGMachine

United States1643 Posts

August 09 2008 05:21 GMT

#157

i agree that when boxer comes back he probbaly wont be the best player out their like he was, but i think he can do better than he is doing atm. I still like watching all the crazy shit he comes up with and he will make a great coach someday.