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Sadly, I've begun to think this about BoxeR. I really wanted him to finish with a bang. Perhaps winning So1, and then retiring. But he sort of dragged it on a bit and still excelled but wasn't at the top.
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jkillashark
United States5262 Posts
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nttea
Sweden4353 Posts
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FConnectionUK
United States316 Posts
Now Knowing this fact, Boxers worth SKYROCKETS soooo fucking high it pokes God in the fcking ass. Boxer fits into ANY and ALL team that wants to contend for a championship. You said he's value only worth as much as his cheese? Guess what? This value is what any team will Kill to have. He is THE set 4 man to have. The sniper. The cheeser. The finisher. Just look at SKT1 when they had Boxer. True, Boxer never had 18324-2 stats on proleague. But that's not where value lies on. As long as proleageu exists. He is one of the worthiest player to have. p.s I boycott on Plexa's FE from now on! lol jk ;P love your FE's (cept this one) edit: Set 4 player can be the finisher, but also the one who brings the fight to Ace match bringing back the "force" to their team and when you think about how Boxer wins his game (Extremely gay for the other team)... the "force" is great... | ||
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
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TreK
Sweden2089 Posts
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Railz
United States1449 Posts
On August 09 2008 08:30 CharlieMurphy wrote: What about Nada? No one ever talks about nada anymore. Boxer in his last interview said he was jealous of the coaching staff Nada had on WeMade Fox | ||
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
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MiniRoman
Canada3953 Posts
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Zelniq
United States7166 Posts
nada wins a 3v1 in a pc bang hahah | ||
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Pulimuli
Sweden2766 Posts
look at him rape flash on python or mind at baekmagoji! | ||
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Chef
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On August 09 2008 08:00 nttea wrote: if boxer could stay at an average progamer level, it's INCREDIBLY impressive considering todays fierce competition. I think all that "quit while u're on top" talk is just bull, you should hang in there as long as you can if u're a true master of starcraft. I think quitting while your ahead is a popular Asian business philosophy... I know that at least televisions shows in Japan do this. The idea is that you're trading short term business exploitation for long term franchise safety... So, if a show in Japan is very popular, and they stop it during the height of their popularity, they maintain a high image of premium quality. This allows them to sell the image, thru comic book versions, movie versions, t shirts, posters, etc. If you have a season after the height of your popularity, you risk destroying your image of premium quality with a bad season (even though it will ride a little while off the popularity of the previous season). The same would go for Boxer. He can sell merchandise better as a legend, and fill in special TV shows 'play Boxer' or something much better than if he risks losing his image. But this is only if you don't think Boxer will come back as a premium player, and if you think his reputation is tarnishable (which as of late, he's looked pretty strong regardless of what Plexa thinks). In essence... I don't think Boxer is hanging in there as long as he can. I think he'll make a strong presence in the scene, and when he finally feels like he can't keep it up anymore (circa the year 3000), that's when we'll see him retire and become a coach or something. | ||
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Ancestral
United States3230 Posts
On August 09 2008 08:05 FConnectionUK wrote: Every single team will want to have Boxer. Not because he's the iconic symbol of starcraft but because of his strategic mind. Keep in mind, not many team really puts much focus, if any at all, on individual leagues... Why do people think this? | ||
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iloveHieu
United States1919 Posts
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Guybrush
Spain4744 Posts
There are some champions I wouldnt miss. Mind and forGG are those. Probably because they dont have the personal charisma nor anything special in their gameplay. Eventhough GGPlay can be considered the same way, you'll always know when someone says "Hey remember that epic comeback GGPlay did in the Daum final?". If someone asks about Mind or forGG you'll say that's the guys who fucked up the namebuilding. Of course Bisu and Jaedong are big names now. ButBisu would have been a huge name if he won his 3rd MSL back then, and Jaedong wouldve been on a good way to being a legend if he had taken his 2nd MSL title recently. I dont want champions like Boxer to quit to make more room for more forGGs and Minds. What I miss the most of todays champions is charisma though. July, Oov, Savior, Nada, Reach, rA, Anytime and Boxer had/has that special aura to them, and even the most recent champions like Jaedong, Bisu, and Flash lacks that despite characteristic gameplay. This worries me somewhat, but it might have a smaller impact than I fear it could have. | ||
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AttackZerg
United States7465 Posts
On August 09 2008 09:48 Guybrush wrote: Brood War need names to survive. Boxer is a name. A champion. In fact hes the only remaining champion from his prime along with GoRush and Reach. Ive watched tons of epic games with these guys hence I feel they belong in the big tournaments by default. You want to see these names because you can identify joyful moments with them. There are some champions I wouldnt miss. Mind and forGG are those. Probably because they dont have the personal charisma nor anything special in their gameplay. Eventhough GGPlay can be considered the same way, you'll always know when someone says "Hey remember that epic comeback GGPlay did in the Daum final?". If someone asks about Mind or forGG you'll say that's the guys who fucked up the namebuilding. Of course Bisu and Jaedong are big names now. ButBisu would have been a huge name if he won his 3rd MSL back then, and Jaedong wouldve been on a good way to being a legend if he had taken his 2nd MSL title recently. I dont want champions like Boxer to quit to make more room for more forGGs and Minds. What I miss the most of todays champions is charisma though. July, Oov, Savior, Nada, Reach, rA, Anytime and Boxer had/has that special aura to them, and even the most recent champions like Jaedong, Bisu, and Flash lacks that despite characteristic gameplay. This worries me somewhat, but it might have a smaller impact than I fear it could have. umm I think flash lacks play fits into your last line Bisu doesn't fit into it at all, I hate the faggot, but god damn is his play interesting/bold ... his play shows more of an artistic approach to the game then I've ever seen a toss (other then straight proxy builds which I don't find creative) have. Jaedong plays the most varied zerg style ever?.... Nobody has as many different approaches and tricks in the middlegame as him. ZvT he has been lacking flair for awhile, but I think its the competition changing, and him struggling with modern terran play. | ||
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d_so
Korea (South)3262 Posts
but i will say that even though today's games are very exciting, nothing makes me go "wow" like watching boxer's old videos used to. case in point: recently, there was a youtube vid highlighting hwasin's marine "micro" against 6 or 7 lurkers sunken. I watched it... it couldnt hold a candle to Boxer's repeated, consistent domination of the zerg with MnM. In fact, the only recent micro "showcase" that has impressed me to the level of Boxer is Light's tank/dropship micro, in which he dodged 3 or 4 attacks from a photon cannon through dropping and picking up. besides that, nothing sticks to my mind. | ||
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Freezard
Sweden1014 Posts
Btw you don't need to qualify/play good in individual leagues either, just look at Sea who is owning up proleague but lacking otherwise. I think Boxer is a really good player to have in proleague, I don't see how any team wouldn't want him. | ||
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Not_Computer
Canada2277 Posts
boxer is such a unique player... even though he isn't considered top notch anymore he's still a lot more entertaining than a lot of the standard macro players these days. maybe if starcraft was just a bit bigger in korea they could start a mini-league based on strategic ingenuity and innovation rather than just pure skill (like figure skating instead of hockey...? erm, bad comparison...) otherwise, being a coach that can still play some showmatches would be great. like, let's say in a team vs team match, the ace card ends up being the coach! lol?! | ||
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prOxi.swAMi
Australia3091 Posts
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