All I have to say is Backho 2:0 Nada .......

Backho is known as the biggest retard in pro gamming... He is stupid for a Toss even .... which is pretty hard.

EtherealDeath

United States8366 Posts

August 10 2008 09:00 GMT

#242

I wonder if for some of the old school gamers, pro SC is turning into a chore for them, like it did to IntoTheRain. Maybe they are losing motivation and their drive?

luiohh

Bangladesh78 Posts

August 10 2008 09:01 GMT

#243

Why should Boxer quit?

1. For the fans? The fans still love him. We still want to see him perform.

2. For himself, because he can't win any more?

- Just as old school players like Garimto have tried and failed, others like JulyZerg have
succeeded. Using 'cheese' and creative strategies in two of the three matches in the OSL final, no less.

- Experience, especially when it comes to the big stage, surely must count for something. Boxer has experience in spades.

- In the airforce, Boxer does not receive adequate training time, and the standard of practice partners probably isn't there. Once he gets out, I believe he can perform, as long as he has the motivation to train and win.

- 'Form is temporary, class is permanent'. Or something. Why, exactly, do you say that Boxer cannot scale this steep learning curve?

- Even if Boxer may never win, does that he should stop trying? Realistically speaking, more than half of the progamers will never get anywhere close to a starleague title. Win a starleague, or die trying. The arguments you listed - mass influx of gamers, big difference in skill - applies to every relatively older gamer. Should they quit as well?

- I think your argument that there is a 'Boxer' effect, without further substantiation, is pure conjecture. Boxer has been out of it for a while now. Is it not as likely that gamers, recognising the skill differences between him and present gamers as you say, will underestimate him?

Skew

United States1019 Posts

August 10 2008 09:16 GMT

#244

On August 10 2008 17:58 AttackZerg wrote:

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All I have to say is Backho 2:0 Nada .......

Backho is known as the biggest retard in pro gamming... He is stupid for a Toss even .... which is pretty hard.

You hurt my heart.

Ilikestarcraft

Korea (South)17733 Posts

August 10 2008 09:24 GMT

#245

On August 10 2008 04:50 hixhix wrote:
somewhat off topic: imagine if boxer is back to SKT1 and practices under oov's supervision, it'd be awkward.

oov: hey old teacher, if you lose to those 13 year old kids again, you are going to clean the toilet for 1 week.

oov in ilovestar said boxer never formally taught him it was more of a watch me play and learn by copying or something like that. And oov said boxer didnt come to his wedding

Kuja900

United States3564 Posts

August 10 2008 09:24 GMT

#246

ugh wrong thread sry i gotta stop having multiple tabs of tl open

mrdx

Vietnam1555 Posts

August 10 2008 10:03 GMT

#247

Who thinks Boxer should quit Starcraft before Starcraft ends should ask yourself whether you really love this game.

Puosu

7008 Posts

August 10 2008 11:02 GMT

#248

On August 10 2008 18:24 Ilikestarcraft wrote:

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oov in ilovestar said boxer never formally taught him it was more of a watch me play and learn by copying or something like that. And oov said boxer didnt come to his wedding

Even Boxer probably can't skip army to go to a wedding..

I'm sure he would've gone had he had the chance.

JustQuitWarcraftIII

United States679 Posts

August 10 2008 17:58 GMT

#249

Plexa's missing the point here. Boxer's progaming life isn't all about winning, but about his style and passion. Even when he loses, he brings us excitement and hope.

Honestly, Boxer's unique game vs Odin was superior to any of the 3-0 utter rape finals.

Tetsuo_AKIRA

United States38 Posts

August 10 2008 19:38 GMT

#250

Requesting some boxer videos from his prime to cheer me up!

RamenStyle

United States1929 Posts

August 10 2008 23:38 GMT

#251

Boxer shouldn't retire. Even if he goes into a 1W-10L record, if that 1 win is achieved with one of his amazing creative strats, his fans will be happy. And so will be most of the sc community. He has a huge impact on the game even if he is not owning the proscene. Just look at his ghost lockdown against arbiters vs Free. Couple of weeks later it was used by other progamer(can't remember what terran was). And had he won that game vs Odin with the nukes, well, I don't have to tell you how the media and fans would have reacted.

Boxer hanging in there, giving his fans some crazy wins here and there, is enough for the progaming community to keep dreaming about his comeback. And the day that not only does he give a crazy strat win to the fans from time to time, but he manages to use those strats to climb again to a starleague final, THAT alone could bring another golden era for starcraft in terms of audience and media.

AttackZerg

United States7474 Posts

August 10 2008 23:43 GMT

#252

On August 10 2008 18:16 Skew wrote:

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You hurt my heart.

Alex I love you and your weak nada loving heart!

PS do not lose to machine at wcg... I will anthrax you. Period.

Neo7

United States922 Posts

August 16 2008 17:38 GMT

#253

I can see BoxeR getting one little squeeze out of his pro-gaming career after he leaves the military due to his personality (the guy won't give up). But he should go to being a coach.

jodogohoo

Canada2533 Posts

August 19 2008 18:38 GMT

#254

Plexa's blogs contradict each other, obviously the map pool is going to be changed to favor boxer's return.

Zoler

Sweden6339 Posts

August 22 2008 22:07 GMT

#255

On August 11 2008 04:38 Tetsuo_AKIRA wrote:
Requesting some boxer videos from his prime to cheer me up!

Boxer vs 13 zerg

Boxer - God is in the TV

Boxer - Best highlights

Boxer - An Emperor returned

I just say this, if you think Boxer should retire I must tell you you're a fucking retard!

Btw, the last is very emotional if you're a hardcore boxer fanboy like me. ^^

UmmTheHobo

United States650 Posts

August 23 2008 03:12 GMT

#256

It would be a damn shame if the only player with balls left professional starcraft.

Elvin_vn

Vietnam2038 Posts

October 02 2008 13:25 GMT

#257

one shall not doubt the "he"

diehilde

Germany1596 Posts

October 02 2008 15:25 GMT

#258

hm funny how u get flamed with 25 posts by saying basically the same to all the overexcited boxer fanboys after todays games, but when plexa writes an article about it, nobody denies the obvious.

btw i just found this in plexas "to bolt is to boxer", written 3 weeks after this article:
"The Emperor is returning with one goal in mind – winning the Golden Mouse. Boxer will show us the way forward through these dark times and revitalize the glorious Starcraft scene and preserve it for years to come."

Kinda makes me wonder if u put ur honest opinion in articles or just write anything for the sake of a good article. I mean its quite a 180° turn to go from "boxer u have gotten too far behind, stop embarassing yourself and ur fans and quit" to "boxer will revitalize the scene and be the shining light".

edit: oh I just read ur second post, seems u started to believe again much earlier. Well, to put it in ur own words "as much as I would cream my pants seeing Boxer in an OSL finals again, realistically it will never happen".
Maybe in SC2 though, his talent and understanding of strategy games is still undeniably one of the best, if not the best.

Zoler

Sweden6339 Posts

October 02 2008 15:33 GMT

#259

On October 03 2008 00:25 damenmofa wrote:
hm funny how u get flamed with 25 posts by saying basically the same to all the overexcited boxer fanboys after todays games, but when plexa writes an article about it, nobody denies the obvious.

WTF?

Steelflight-Rx

United States1389 Posts

October 02 2008 16:56 GMT

#260

On August 08 2008 23:02 BottleAbuser wrote:
To oversimplify: Boxer needs more practice than he can get, and his style won't get him anywhere anymore - he's playing against a different crowd.

Well...... you just spent like 9/10 of your post talking about how he was awesome because he kept changing his style. *shrug*

I dunno, I think it's still possible that starcraft can be optimized more, and it's possible that boxer will do it. Not holding my breath, but that's no reason to quit.

his style will get him a fanbase and sponsorships.. maybe its not all about winning titles? whats he gunna do, quit playing the game he loves and go work a desk job somewhere?