• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 21:19
CET 03:19
KST 11:19
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book10Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info7herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational14
Community News
Weekly Cups (Feb 2-8): Classic, Solar, MaxPax win1Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker1PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar)9Weekly Cups (Jan 26-Feb 1): herO, Clem, ByuN, Classic win2RSL Season 4 announced for March-April7
StarCraft 2
General
Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book Weekly Cups (Feb 2-8): Classic, Solar, MaxPax win Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info How do you think the 5.0.15 balance patch (Oct 2025) for StarCraft II has affected the game?
Tourneys
PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar) WardiTV Mondays $21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament $5,000 WardiTV Winter Championship 2026
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ? [A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 512 Overclocked The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 511 Temple of Rebirth Mutation # 510 Safety Violation
Brood War
General
Gypsy to Korea BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ [ASL21] Potential Map Candidates BW General Discussion Liquipedia.net NEEDS editors for Brood War
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 1 Small VOD Thread 2.0 KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Strategy
Zealot bombing is no longer popular? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Current Meta Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Diablo 2 thread ZeroSpace Megathread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread EVE Corporation Nintendo Switch Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread The Games Industry And ATVI Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Play, Watch, Drink: Esports …
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1703 users

Boxer Should Quit Starcraft - Page 11

Blogs > Plexa
Post a Reply
Prev 1 9 10 11 12 13 14 Next All
BroOd
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Austin10833 Posts
August 09 2008 13:46 GMT
#201
On August 09 2008 22:30 Rekrul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2008 21:46 Plexa wrote:
On August 09 2008 20:58 Rekrul wrote:
your name is red dude, act like it
Good advice rekrul;
as a moderator i am obliged to keep the forums clean and productive


OMG u caught the hint and actually did it. see thats how my sense of humor works

Plexa I don't think you should feel sorry for banning me at all. And I really hope it doesn't break your heart cause I wasn't gunna stop until it happened. I was doing it out of sport/fun cause thats how my fucked up sense of humor entertains itself. My presence on teamliquid is not important at all and I have not done jack shit for the site in a long time and do pose a certain business threat to the site (though much less than the moderators that removed me think...cause honestly they are clueless--but thats besides the point). The only things I contribute to TL.net are my progaminggossip type shit posts and dramabomb posts...and we're all aware I don't do that out of my love for the community I do it because I'm a fucking attention whore and get off on building up the e-reputation. You were completely justified in banning me and I completely understand and take no offense (only way anyone can offend me is by not trusting me actually) so don't worry about that.

I am aware of everything you have done for this site and the community and have enjoyed reading several of your articles/posts. I thought that was a given so I didn't bother mentioning that I just flamed away. I'm used to everyone just understanding thats how I am and accepting the flames or brushing them off or fighting back in a similar flavor, cause those are the only kinds of people that I can have a real friendship with. I genuinely am sorry if I really did offend you, but honestly that was not my intent. I thought all my posts were funny as hell (especially the kitchen comment LOL) and I did think I had very valid points about this Boxer issue. Add all of that stuff up plus a massive hangover and me having a personality where all rationality goes out the window and I turn into a vicious raging dog that will defend his friends at any cost whenever I feel anyone has threatened them in any way and you have the verbal spew attack that I dished out on you.

I have a problem where I can't do stuff unless I think it's fun and just making simple statements about facts and opinions isn't enough, this is the internet and without flaming there is no community or fun. Without insulting people during e-debates it doesn't get heated and fun enough, and you end up with a bunch of kids spamming paragraph after paragraph trying to prove their point when in the end...its all opinions and no point will be proven and everyone is just wasting time and not even having fun in the process.

You really should have just called me an arrogant flaming fuck face and banned me, but since you left a nice description for the ban in the ban thread I decided to give you a serious reply.

I hope you understand and we can live in harmony in the future as friends even though I'm going to try extra hard to try and flame everything you write about in the future just because thats what my backwards sense of humor is telling me is the next logical step after this little incident. LOL.

p.s. lil tidbit for everyone i was out with lilsusie the other night and my korean hyung kept grabbing her tits all night randomly, and she liked it


There's a difference between insulting someone in an "e-debate" and typing shit like faggot and retard in caps. That's amateur hour stuff.

Flaming everything someone writes regardless of what it is is moronic, not funny.
ModeratorSIRL and JLIG.
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
August 09 2008 13:46 GMT
#202
I'm not offended by anything that you said rekrul, not one bit. Throughout the course of this thread there has been a number of people expressing the exact same sentiment. Fine by me, its just some internet kids getting all pissy about nothing really. The issue I had was purely the precedent set on the forums that this kind of posting is okay. The only thing that irked me in your entire set of posts was the fact that you didn't even read the article. I dont really care if you read it or not, but if your going to start flaming and then say you didn't read the thread then i have a problem.

Flaming is an integral part of having fun on a forum, thats indisputable. In a thread like this, with such a sensitive issue up for debate flaming is inevitable. But there's a point where it goes beyond flaming and it just becomes garbage. Im sure you're well aware of that. If you insist on flaming in future topics, at least try and be witty about it because at least then we get some comedy out of it.

I could have said that you were an arrogant flaming fuck, but i do respect you a lot. Probably too much. So you get a nice description, obviously if you were anyone else you'd get the obligatory flaming fuck reason.
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Smuft
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
Canada318 Posts
August 09 2008 14:00 GMT
#203
Well next time you ban me lets keep it simple so we don't have to get all touchy feely with eachother.
Showtime!
Profile Joined November 2007
Canada2938 Posts
August 09 2008 14:01 GMT
#204
Dan, how many drinks did you have last night?

Some people really need to lighten up.

lol
Mini skirt season is right around the corner. ☻
Smuft
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
Canada318 Posts
August 09 2008 14:07 GMT
#205
i don't count lol

but the hangover today was really more terrible than the hangovers i had every day of the past week, so that means i drank a fuckload
Kacas
Profile Joined July 2003
Brazil3143 Posts
August 09 2008 14:21 GMT
#206
nah
he loves the game
he still have the force to keep training.

why would he be different from any other player training?

let´s just wait and see..
the leagues are almost lottery nowadays....

and btw...i think if boxer win the golden mouse...is the end of starcraft..seriously
is like " there´s nothing more to be achieved in starcraft"
after that we will have just a few month or maybe a year till sc2 is released.
who cares if boxer will win another ogn or no after the golden mouse? every result will be "ok".
who cares if "Best"(who was "best" 1 year ago?) or any other NONAME (compared to boxer) win an starleague?

even if jaedong or flash can win 1 more starleague or mbc....will be like...hey..jaedong rule..he´s dominating now...but they will be unable to reach boxer glory.

yeah...all that IF boxer win the golden mouse...
if that dont happen...we keep watching starcraft =)
keep dreaming about boxer comeback
keep dreaming about savior comeback
yellow, ra, whatever player u like comeback
keep waiting a new player to win everything.

=/
I Love Hyori Lee =* icq: 41760400 / msn: kayen_chn at hotm
SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
August 09 2008 14:22 GMT
#207
Um, whatever.
Fuck you guys.
I'm on the Boxer train til I quit everything BW related.

I still stand by that when Boxer quits, I quit.
POWER OVERWHELMING ! ! ! KRUU~ KRUU~
aseq
Profile Joined January 2003
Netherlands3994 Posts
August 09 2008 14:25 GMT
#208
Interesting read, i must say i kinda agree, would have been better if he made the golden mouse and then quit.

That last picture in the OP kinda makes me feel he's like Michael Jackson, anyone?
grobo
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Japan6199 Posts
August 09 2008 14:50 GMT
#209
On August 09 2008 22:30 Smuft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2008 21:46 Plexa wrote:
On August 09 2008 20:58 Rekrul wrote:
your name is red dude, act like it
Good advice rekrul;
as a moderator i am obliged to keep the forums clean and productive

p.s. lil tidbit for everyone i was out with lilsusie the other night and my korean hyung kept grabbing her tits all night randomly, and she liked it


lol
We make signature, then defense it.
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28738 Posts
August 09 2008 15:26 GMT
#210
boxer is BOTH the greatest and most entertaining player through all time, this is an undisputable fact. wishing that he would stop playing? that's horrible.
Moderator
Cloud
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sexico5880 Posts
August 09 2008 15:29 GMT
#211
Well i havent read every comment so far so im writing this in dangers of repeating it.

Well ive seen at least the OP to be completely about boxer, but how about the fans, other veteran progamers, or the industry in general? Boxer is like the icon of esports, its not jaedong or best or flash, its always been boxer. With him retiring who would follow as well? Would people like yellow, reach, midas with the biggest salaries in progaming and the biggest fanclubs follow him as well? That would be a huge blow to professional starcraft.

No, i dont think boxer should retire, he is, i believe, already in the safe zone, people already know how he plays, his fans watch his games to awe themselves one more time at his creativity, more than expecting him to win.

As for the rest, im one of those people who really believe boxer will rise his game once hes out of the army; he may not reach a starleague final but his record should definitely improve and the creative and awe inspiring play of his should remain.
BlueLaguna on West, msg for game.
Kaolla
Profile Joined January 2003
China2999 Posts
August 09 2008 15:45 GMT
#212
well im sure it has been said before but if boxer can still have the motivation the young ones have he has the same chance of succes i guess...
it will be alot harder than back in the day tho, since the average level is much higher the competition is more fierce the chances of winning an entire OSL get smaller... no more easy opponents ... he could certainly do it but some luck is needed... but any player needs luck even the best of the best now (flash or jaedong or w/e)
its me
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13297 Posts
August 09 2008 15:52 GMT
#213
I'm sorry Plexa, but no he shouldn't.

Boxer is an icon of his sport and deserves to retire on his own terms. People don't care that he doesn't compete like he used to, they just like to witness a champion in action.

Nobody begrudges greats like George Forman, Jack Nicklaus and Michael Jordan when they play well beyond their peak. They, like Boxer, are former champions who every one respects and admires and this is why they go to watch them.

Competitive sports/leisure is not just about winning and performing. Boxer is to progaming what someone like Ali is boxing, Jordan is to basketball. They are the game.

You think progaming, you think Boxer. He has so much still to offer the game beyond winning OSLs and MSLs.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Coulthard
Profile Joined September 2005
Greece3359 Posts
August 09 2008 16:06 GMT
#214
I dont care if he wins or loses,when he plays,he always does something pimp,or try to do- and he was always like that.Besides the fact of how important he was for the progaming + strategical evolution he is the most entertaining player ever,so making this topic full of numbers and statistics is nothing more than a blasphemy.
I can't believe this of you. Whats next?Yellow retiring cause he doesnt make muta harrass in every tvz? Show some respect kid,if it werent those old schoolers progaming wouldnt be so big so you can play with your little numbers
FreeDoM[YA]
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Canada855 Posts
August 09 2008 16:18 GMT
#215
On August 09 2008 05:05 AttackZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2008 04:27 funkie wrote:
Plexa, I don't know you very much..

But I just have 2 words for you.

Fuck You.



Wow , I don't know you...

and thats good because your a faggot.

Plexa deserves alittle more respect then that ...


Agreed. Funkie just shut the fuck up.
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France7971 Posts
August 09 2008 18:23 GMT
#216
On August 08 2008 23:08 Chill wrote:
I completely disagree. I think you sell the greatest StarCraft player ever quite short.

I have to agree with Chill.

Boxer is currently not practicing enough. He remains highly creative and entertaining (locking down arbiters always looks nice). I believe that he should wait and see what happens when he goes back to normal pro-gamer training before taking a decision about his career.

Giving up when you are temporarly under-practice would be a bit stupid for a player like him.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11556 Posts
August 09 2008 18:52 GMT
#217
I see where you are coming from, but I do disagree. Even though he has been looking bad at the moment, he can come back. Take a look at the Ever OSL. Not many people thought he could do it, but ingenuity and improved mechanics got him 2nd place.

I feel he should be able to come back, maybe not to his former glory, but definitely make some heads turn.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
B1nary
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada1267 Posts
August 09 2008 19:39 GMT
#218
Sorry Plexa, but I disagree. Most progamers rise, shine, fade, and eventually disappear. By the time they retire, they've faded to the point that most people just give a "oh, that's too bad" and move on. But Boxer's different. Boxer IS Starcraft. After 8 years, people still love him almost as much as they used to. Even if he never becomes great again, I just don't think it would be acceptable for him to retire right now. He should at least try to get back in form and end on a slightly higher note.
SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
August 09 2008 19:40 GMT
#219
BOXAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
WOO WOO WOO WOO WOO
FIST PUMP!!!
BOXAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
POWER OVERWHELMING ! ! ! KRUU~ KRUU~
FirstBorn
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Romania3955 Posts
August 09 2008 19:42 GMT
#220
I think I'll hold my vote until I see him play again.
SonuvBob: Yes, the majority of TL is college-aged, and thus clearly stupid.
Prev 1 9 10 11 12 13 14 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 7h 41m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft509
RuFF_SC2 143
ProTech45
Vindicta 20
StarCraft: Brood War
Artosis 746
Noble 31
Shuttle 25
Dota 2
monkeys_forever506
NeuroSwarm93
League of Legends
C9.Mang0412
Counter-Strike
taco 787
fl0m722
Foxcn391
m0e_tv385
minikerr12
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox653
Mew2King81
Other Games
summit1g8482
JimRising 419
Maynarde126
KnowMe42
Day[9].tv21
PiLiPiLi11
Liquid`Ken1
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1007
BasetradeTV36
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 88
• HeavenSC 10
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• RayReign 2
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21971
League of Legends
• Stunt433
Other Games
• Day9tv21
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
7h 41m
LiuLi Cup
8h 41m
Reynor vs Creator
Maru vs Lambo
PiGosaur Monday
22h 41m
Replay Cast
1d 6h
LiuLi Cup
1d 8h
Clem vs Rogue
SHIN vs Cyan
Replay Cast
1d 21h
The PondCast
2 days
KCM Race Survival
2 days
LiuLi Cup
2 days
Scarlett vs TriGGeR
ByuN vs herO
Replay Cast
2 days
[ Show More ]
Online Event
3 days
LiuLi Cup
3 days
Serral vs Zoun
Cure vs Classic
RSL Revival
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
LiuLi Cup
4 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
LiuLi Cup
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
LiuLi Cup
6 days
Wardi Open
6 days
Monday Night Weeklies
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
Rongyi Cup S3
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals
Nations Cup 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W8
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
WardiTV Winter 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
FISSURE Playground #3
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.