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thoraxe
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States1449 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-21 06:08:25
July 21 2008 05:30 GMT
#1
1) I know he said something that people with plans aren't cool and that its better to just act, or something like that (someone plz sum it up better than me?). But didn't he end up having a masterful plan of his at the end? What's up with that, was it something that the writers couldn't avoid?

2) Why does the Joker say different reasons for his scars?

3) Didn't the guy that played Scarecrow in Batman Begins make a cameo in The Dark Knight? Wasn't he the very same impersonator that was wearing the Scarecrow's mask?


*on a side note*
from imdb trivia section: To prepare for his role as the Joker, Heath Ledger lived alone in a hotel room for a month, formulating the character's psychology, posture and voice (the last one he found most difficult to do). He started a diary, in which he wrote the Joker's thoughts and feelings to guide himself during his performance. He was also given Alan Moore's comic "Batman: The Killing Joke" and "Arkham Asylum: A Serious House on Serious Earth" to read.

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Night[Mare
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Mexico4793 Posts
July 21 2008 06:07 GMT
#2
Well, he said he prefered to act rather than plan a scheme , because schemers freaked out when something went out of the plan. He did planned things, seeing as how he freaks when neither boat is blown up and tried to proceed to blow them both. But you can notice he is waaaaaaay too random to be a scheemer. I dont know, its complicated :p
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sqwert
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States781 Posts
July 21 2008 06:11 GMT
#3
2) "Director Christopher Nolan and co-writers Jonathan Nolan and David S. Goyer decided not to explore the origins of the Joker in order to portray the character as "absolute.""

joker says different reasons to scare the person?
if everythings coming your way, youre in the wrong lane. sAviOr 4evar!
Snet *
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States3573 Posts
July 21 2008 06:20 GMT
#4
how many damn threads do we have to have about one movie
Takeout
Profile Joined July 2008
United States22 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-21 06:50:04
July 21 2008 06:49 GMT
#5
[spoiler]1) My interpretation is something as follows:
These schemers, as told by the Joker, are far too predictable. Their ideals, goals etc etc relies far too much upon events happening as how they planned. When something goes awry, their whole "scheme" falters and the original plan falls on itself.

The Joker, meanwhile, just "does it." Chaos and violence is part of his nature. His end is obvious, but his means are fluid and changeable. He relies on no preset "scheme," even if the unforseened happen, the Joker simply improvises along the way, and still achieve his end. After all, it is part of his nature. This is what makes the Ledger Joker such a terrifying figure. No matter how you intervene, how you may think you have stopped him, in the end he still gets the final laugh.

This is the reason to him saying how + Show Spoiler +
Rachel's death was not personal. He never "schemed" to kill her. From the beginning all he intended to do was corrupt Harvey. Rachel was simply in the way


2) Audience will keep guessing. His background thus remains mysterious, and thus, terrifying.
To reflect how psychologically disturbed this man is. All those things might have happened. Or none of them, or they could have been the simple product of his twisted mind. Born out of his self-mutilation.
His mutilated face is a metaphor for his disfigured mind.


3) Yes. And he is as flaming as ever.
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popnfreshspk
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States93 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-21 06:58:26
July 21 2008 06:57 GMT
#6
The Joker has a different story for his scars everytime because that is exactly how the Joker character is.

He doesn't have an origin story, to quote from the Killing Joke, "Sometimes I remember it one way, sometimes another... if I'm going to have a past, I prefer it to be multiple choice!"

The idea is that he's told so many stories about his origin, that he doesn't really remember how he got to be what he is anymore. Adds depth to the character imo.
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powa
Profile Joined July 2008
United States58 Posts
July 21 2008 07:01 GMT
#7
he has a different story always because to him it was a joke.... name=joker
thoraxe
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States1449 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-21 17:46:24
July 21 2008 17:45 GMT
#8
On July 21 2008 15:20 Snet wrote:
how many damn threads do we have to have about one movie

its a blog. and the movie is fucking great, there should be 100 threads about this movie.
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