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BottleAbuser
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)1888 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-21 02:34:02
July 17 2008 03:00 GMT
#1
Introduction:

This is a compilation of my pet peeves in the Warcraft III UMS game Defense of the Ancients, or DotA (or just dota because I'm lazy). I'm posting it here because maybe the Let's Play! thread in the Sports & Games forum isn't the best place to bitch about people. I'm probably going to edit and re-edit this OP to add more shit. I don't see me removing anything, so feel free to point out inconsistencies; I won't pull anything.

If you've read my posts in that thread, some of this stuff will seem familiar. I don't care, I'm writing this for me, not for you.

Anyone and everyone is welcome to chime in with their own peeves or tell me to go fuck off.

The bitching begins:

"X is at fault, not me." Where X is lag, the player's mouse, his keyboard, his speakers, his sleepiness. Whatever. A player is screwing up, and he's passing on the blame to something out of his control. Except it's not out of his control. This is stuff you can deal with before the game starts. This is stuff you KNOW ABOUT before the game starts (lag might be an exception -- but you still have a reasonable idea of what it's going to be like).

"No missing call for X?" After dying to hero X. There are times when one can legitimately blame the lack of a missing call for his death. Very few. Most of the times, the player would have died after hearing the missing call because they just don't play more carefully anyways. Or he would have died even if that hero wasn't present. This kind of goes with the previous.

"X is imba, let's ban." Where X is.... anything. A certain strategy, a certain hero pick, a certain item(!). I've seen people proposing the banning of: denying creeps, backdooring, stacking/lending, every single new hero introduced for the next 3 versions, luna, terrorblade, techies, pudge, bottle. Others but I can't remember them now. Point is, they see something new, they don't know how to deal with it, and instead of figuring out a counter they bring out the ban hammer. Okay, some stuff like item stacking is arguable... but I'm sticking to my guns and saying that anything the game mechanics allows is fair game.

"You're doing X, which is banned. We didn't say anything about it before, but it is." Similar to previous, except it's worse. It's granted that luna is banned? Since when? According to who? When you play with the same 10 people forever, then go to a pub, don't expect everyone to know and follow your house rules, especially if you don't explain them first.

"I think X is hacking. Banlist him." Okay, it's fair enough to suspect someone is maphacking. It's not fair to turn that suspicion into a "known fact" on a whim. Shut up and play. Watch the replay afterwards, to make sure he wasn't just watching with a ward. Even then, you only have a clue; if it's not definitive, there's still something called intuition and guesswork. Accusing someone of maphacking without even watching the replay is retarded.

"My score is X-Y, and your score is A-B. That makes me better than you." This is so retarded that I don't know how to start. The objective of the game is to break the opposing ancient. Really, it is. Trust me. No, don't trust me, go look at the "Mission Objective" window in the game. Go read Ender's Game. Loser.

Wards. Observer wards, sentry wards. Buy them when you need them, plant them after you buy them. Learn to recognize when you need them. Okay, this doesn't piss me off so much because it's a matter of experience, which you can't blame people for lacking.

Couriers:

Couriers. These used to be only walking ones, and the chicken type, so many people call them chickens. Even the flying ones. That's OK, I do it too, I'm not gonna bitch about what you call it. However, I have so many things to say about couriers that I figure this deserves its own section.

More than one courier isn't necessary for most strategies. With bottle capacity down, it's pointless to relay bottles, too. You won't need more than one chicken. One guy should buy a chicken at the start of the game, and everyone should use it. No one should go to town for the sole purpose of buying an item. So don't buy a chicken if your teammate bought one, and share your chicken if you did.

Okay, why not? Because the guy doesn't trust his teammates to use his chicken well. Sad thing is, many people don't. A chicken shouldn't ever be running from town to a lane holding a gg branch and a clarity potion. The absolute bare minimal item a chicken should be carrying is a portal. Or maybe, just maybe a sapphire water, if you really really need it.

TL Specific:

10 people sitting in a room and we don't start for 20 minutes. Because someone's unhappy about the team lineup. Because we're waiting for a friend to come obs, but he's having problems with his computer or connection or game client. Because we're arguing about strategy, or whether or not something should be banned (the decision of which to save time should be ultimately deferred to the host). We're not playing in a league or tournament where a win or a loss actually matters. What matters is having fun playing the game, and getting better so we can play at a higher level later and have more fun. Your friend can go see the replay. What, he's in the same room after all? Get him over and tell him to look at your damn monitor.

B.net Specific:

15 people joining and leaving a game over a period of 5 minutes. I don't really want a person who can't wait 5 minutes in the game, because I doubt he'll sit through an hour, but dayamn are there a shitload of these folks.

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Compilers are like boyfriends, you miss a period and they go crazy on you.
paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13196 Posts
July 17 2008 03:12 GMT
#2
Zelniq's Law of Experience -- skill is not correlated with experience

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evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
July 17 2008 03:44 GMT
#3
Rune not respawning in my part of the river.
Fuck I hate that so much!

I am humbly waiting, waiting almost! nearly! cmon!!!
no rune...

T_T
Life is run, it is dance, it is fast, passionate and BAM!, you dance and sing and booze while you can for now is the time and time is mine. Smile and laugh when still can for now is the time and soon you die!
BottleAbuser
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)1888 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-17 03:50:52
July 17 2008 03:49 GMT
#4
With experience, you can time your movement so that you get there as the rune spawns (or doesn't spawn...). I assume you know runes spawn every 2 minutes. You'll spend less time that way. Alternatively, if you have rune wards up, and no opponents are near the rune areas, sit around and see where it spawns before you go for it. Risk of a faster opponent showing up and taking it, however.

If you have the time to sit around for a rune, you probably have the time to go to the other rune spot when it doesn't spawn on you. Probably only worth it if it's warded so you can turn around if you see an opponent taking it.
Compilers are like boyfriends, you miss a period and they go crazy on you.
caelym
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6421 Posts
July 17 2008 04:54 GMT
#5
bitching and trash talking is what makes dota, dota
bnet: caelym#1470 | Twitter: @caelym
ScarFace
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1175 Posts
July 17 2008 04:56 GMT
#6
My DoTa peeve is that the game is played. My god does it suck.
Can you dig it?
Dark.Carnival
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5095 Posts
July 17 2008 05:01 GMT
#7
oh, how about... Trying to lead your team because no one else is and telling them to push somewhere as a team, and then having a few of them ignore you so you can't push, and they end up dieing. Then thirty minutes later you lose because your team wouldn't push and break raxes when you had the power too. That shit annoys me the most. : [
@QxGDarkCell ._.
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-17 06:24:29
July 17 2008 06:18 GMT
#8
Only peeve
Darkcell
The end. Not really obv.

1. Going xx-0 when my team feeds. I can understand it if they were completely out laned and getting beaten down. i.e. you're 2 melee because we randomed 4 melee and one ranged... But when they have heros that can fight back in the lane (or should be winning it tbh) and then I come help out, kill 1-2 guys, then they resume losing it afterwards...
that
just
doesn't
make
sense

Basically anything that doesn't make sense irks me.
There's a lot. Some of it is pretty forgivable. Some of it makes you drop your jaw in astonishment.

But the worst: THE WORST THING TO DO TO ANGER TESTIE.
You are Lich / Warlock and you do not buy the chicken.
THIS IS A FUCKING SACRILEGE.
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
boesthius
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States11637 Posts
July 17 2008 11:30 GMT
#9
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paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13196 Posts
July 18 2008 11:12 GMT
#10
On July 17 2008 15:18 MYM.Testie wrote:
Only peeve
Darkcell
The end. Not really obv.

1. Going xx-0 when my team feeds. I can understand it if they were completely out laned and getting beaten down. i.e. you're 2 melee because we randomed 4 melee and one ranged... But when they have heros that can fight back in the lane (or should be winning it tbh) and then I come help out, kill 1-2 guys, then they resume losing it afterwards...
that
just
doesn't
make
sense

Basically anything that doesn't make sense irks me.
There's a lot. Some of it is pretty forgivable. Some of it makes you drop your jaw in astonishment.

But the worst: THE WORST THING TO DO TO ANGER TESTIE.
You are Lich / Warlock and you do not buy the chicken.
THIS IS A FUCKING SACRILEGE.


then again, most people don't play for 14 hours a day
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