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Something I've noticed these days, is wrinkly ugly feminists, barking out the word "pedophile" at every possible chance.
I was at the pool with my uncle, and he was teaching his daughter to swim. She's 6 years old, and its about time she learned, but when he lifted her in the water, some old bitch yelled at him for having his hand on her leg.
It's his daughter. Should parents and children keep an arms length distance from eachother at all time? Should fathers be afraid to hug their own children, or have an intimate, happy, and normal relationship with their own offspring? No, of course not. Gone are the days of old where you can sit on Grandpa's lap and hear stories from the "good ole' days". Because anyone who touches a child is a pedophile.
Even I experienced it. I was at the park, and some girl fell in the sand which I was near, and her parents weren't paying attention. The girl couldn't get up, so I helped her. I help her up, and the mom tells me "Don't touch my daughter!"
I'm there at the park with my girlfriend, we must be 16 year old pedoswingers looking to pick up a hot threesome right?
Jesus.
Don't get me started on the statutory rape laws. Girls in my highschool have had their boyfriends sued by their ignorant mothers, because they were 18-19, and the girl was 15-16. You think the 18-19 year old guy, of roughly the same maturity level is some sick freak?
Highschool girls like older men anyway. Of course, like any natural urge, it must be surpressed and ignored and blamed on Satan. Or pedophilia. Besides, attraction to teenage girls is ephebophilia and every man has it.
Has anyone else noticed this, or seen things like this?
Here are some links to some ridiculous soccer mom McCarthyism: http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/7/6/women_fight_pedophilia_with_teddy_bears.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/2194359/A-quarter-of-adults-to-face-'anti-paedophile'-tests.html
 
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Agreed, not only do I hate the "pedo" being thrown around, but I also hate the actual labeling of people this way when they have the most innocent intentions. I blame North America and their cultural taboos >.<
I also hate when people throw around "gay".
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i hate that too, but what can you do ?
just don't go and throw that work around too often
ignore the hags they'll die and leave us in peace
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lol your uncle touched your daughter's leg and now he's a pedophile?
jesus what's next...
give your son a pat on the back and you get mobs at your house.
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you live in the US. bad luck ;/
here in germany it's no big deal. if a 15 year old girl wants to be together with a 18,19,20 year old (or still older) it's no problem at all in most cases. in fact i see that happen very often because the >=18 year old usually owns a car already (among other things) and is therefore coooool~~*ggggg*
in my neighborhood was even a girl who came together with her singing teacher. she was 14 at that time and he something like mid 40s... the people were of course talking (as usual) but it was not prohibited nor were they directly confronted with any critique towards their relationship. (14 sounds a bit pedo maybe but biologically she was beyond her age - there are exceptions like that. she looked of course young, but not at all "flat chested" or smth, that's my point)
JUST AN EXAMPLE to illustrate what's possible here and in the US definitely wouldn't be.. even milder cases (as you described) would still be the utmost evil-doing.
but on the other hand your teenagers may already play and watch all the brutal video games and movies which are either indexed or "ab 18" in Ger. That's just as good isn't it?!?! :D .. 8[ (we are evil nazis and you don't want to tempt our blood..)
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40 and 14, wtf? now that is pedo.
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LOL that park story, although funny, truly shows how some parents are becoming much more overprotective. I mean, we can't really blame them.
+ Show Spoiler +It's people like me that they should be afraid of, GG
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On July 13 2008 01:40 Ghardo wrote:
you live in the US. bad luck ;/
here in germany it's no big deal. if a 15 year old girl wants to be together with a 18,19,20 year old (or still older) it's no problem at all in most cases. in fact i see that happen very often because the >=18 year old usually owns a car already (among other things) and is therefore coooool~~*ggggg*
in my neighborhood was even a girl who came together with her singing teacher. she was 14 at that time and he something like mid 40s... the people were of course talking (as usual) but it was not prohibited nor were they directly confronted with any critique towards their relationship. (14 sounds a bit pedo maybe but biologically she was beyond her age - there are exceptions like that. she looked of course young, but not at all "flat chested" or smth, that's my point)
JUST AN EXAMPLE to illustrate what's possible here and in the US definitely wouldn't be.. even milder cases (as you described) would still be the utmost evil-doing.
but on the other hand your teenagers may already play and watch all the brutal video games and movies which are either indexed or "ab 18" in Ger. That's just as good isn't it?!?! :D .. 8[ (we are evil nazis and you don't want to tempt our blood..)
a 40 year old with a 14 year old?... now that is just fucking weird.
I could understand 30+20 year old
40+30
but 40+14?...
i think 10 is a big enough age difference -_-
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Just think, the same people who created these morales, which used to fill us up , have strung them out, however, I don't blame really blame them. ..
It's not "ridiculous" as you are implying, rape and general misconduct are second nature to society and belligerent crooks are everywhere, you really can never be too safe
although in the select few stories you pointed out, those people seriously overreacted / had no place to act the way that they did, i'm sure there are just as many not so funny/ ridiculous stories,
For example, some teen girl was recently found dead in a sewer, report investigators have identified him and personals are now interviewing the parents of this poor victim
"Any words?"
Mother : "Yes..*sobs* , there was this nice boy ( or so he seemed so) that helped my daughter up when she fell, and I could've... I could've... *chokes up* said "Don't touch my daughter!" and easily ran over there to help her with some preemptive thinking , but the boy seemed so nice... with good intentions, so i just ignored it..., next thing you know i hear her screaming and i could only watch as the boy took her across the street , and slit her throat/threw her into the sewer and ran off"
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Ok a little exaggeration but.. you get my point
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On July 13 2008 01:49 HeavOnEarth wrote:
Just think, the same people who created these morales, which used to fill us up , have strung them out, however, I don't blame really blame them. ..
It's not "ridiculous" as you are implying, rape and general misconduct are second nature to society and belligerent crooks are everywhere, you really can never be too safe
although in the select few stories you pointed out, those people seriously overreacted / had no place to act the way that they did, i'm sure there are just as many not so funny/ ridiculous stories,
For example, some teen girl was recently found dead in a sewer, report investigators have identified him and personals are now interviewing the parents of this poor victim
"Any words?"
Mother : "Yes..*sobs* , there was this nice boy ( or so he seemed so) that helped my daughter up when she fell, and I could've... I could've... *chokes up* said "Don't touch my daughter!" and easily ran over there to help her with some preemptive thinking , but the boy seemed so nice... with good intentions, so i just ignored it..., next thing you know i hear her screaming and i could only watch as the boy took her across the street , and slit her throat/threw her into the sewer and ran off"
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Ok a little exaggeration but.. you get my point
You see, its thinking that like that. Which has made the world a horrible place. People are no longer able to "Trust" each other, because of the mass paranoia going around. Sad.
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On July 13 2008 01:47 GunsofthePatriots wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2008 01:40 Ghardo wrote:
you live in the US. bad luck ;/
here in germany it's no big deal. if a 15 year old girl wants to be together with a 18,19,20 year old (or still older) it's no problem at all in most cases. in fact i see that happen very often because the >=18 year old usually owns a car already (among other things) and is therefore coooool~~*ggggg*
in my neighborhood was even a girl who came together with her singing teacher. she was 14 at that time and he something like mid 40s... the people were of course talking (as usual) but it was not prohibited nor were they directly confronted with any critique towards their relationship. (14 sounds a bit pedo maybe but biologically she was beyond her age - there are exceptions like that. she looked of course young, but not at all "flat chested" or smth, that's my point)
JUST AN EXAMPLE to illustrate what's possible here and in the US definitely wouldn't be.. even milder cases (as you described) would still be the utmost evil-doing.
but on the other hand your teenagers may already play and watch all the brutal video games and movies which are either indexed or "ab 18" in Ger. That's just as good isn't it?!?! :D .. 8[ (we are evil nazis and you don't want to tempt our blood..) a 40 year old with a 14 year old?... now that is just fucking weird. I could understand 30+20 year old 40+30 but 40+14?... i think 10 is a big enough age difference -_-
what you think is not important. my point was merely that it's tolerated here. there are enough people living here and it was known to the whole town but nobody did try to stop them or even critize them openly. (not the parents, not some old conservative farts, nobody - talk, yes, lots of it)
i just wanted to make clear what sexual freedom you have here in germany in contrast to north america.
if the singing teacher in fact is pedo or if it was real love towards a person who does look more like 16-17 (mind you are of age at 18 here in germany) than 14 is not the question.
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There's no "mass paranoia" ; shit actually happens.
quite frankly i wouldn't trust any random stranger, i'm glad you are willing to put faith in someone you've never met before in your life BUT we don't live in a happy frolicking utopia where everything is made out of candy and sunshine
so yes i am "distrustful"
What's wrong with that?
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the point is not about being distrustful, since most people should be as there are far more devious people than people with good intentions; rather, the point is that certain behaviors aren't accepted in North America [or at least not in public] to the point that they are accepted in Europe
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post links if you are going to use an example
its' a very good topic btw
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On July 13 2008 02:00 HeavOnEarth wrote:
There's no "mass paranoia" ; shit actually happens.
quite frankly i wouldn't trust any random stranger, i'm glad you are willing to put faith in someone you've never met before in your life BUT we don't live in a happy frolicking utopia where everything is made out of candy and sunshine
so yes i am "distrustful"
What's wrong with that?
It comes down to, you don't have to trust every stranger, but since when is it safe to assume that all of them are going to fuck you over in some way. Every friend/co worker/aquaintence etc... you talk to were strangers at some point.
Like, i appreciate someone telling a guy in their mid twenties to fuck off if he's near their daughter/son, but if you see them helping your kid up, or catching them before they fall then do so, your a douche. Its all in moderation, people are people, some good some bad, no need to treat everyone as a horrible human being, no need to trust them all, but living life with your head over your shoulder isn't a good way to live.
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There are more devious people than people with good intentions? wtf, what kind of world are you living in?
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oh i just made it up lol, i thought that was obvious
b/c i quoted what the OP said eariler
with the "Don't touch my daughter!"
eh?
EH?
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On July 13 2008 02:08 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2008 02:00 HeavOnEarth wrote:
There's no "mass paranoia" ; shit actually happens.
quite frankly i wouldn't trust any random stranger, i'm glad you are willing to put faith in someone you've never met before in your life BUT we don't live in a happy frolicking utopia where everything is made out of candy and sunshine
so yes i am "distrustful"
What's wrong with that? It comes down to, you don't have to trust every stranger, but since when is it safe to assume that all of them are going to fuck you over in some way. Every friend/co worker/aquaintence etc... you talk to were strangers at some point. Like, i appreciate someone telling a guy in their mid twenties to fuck off if he's near their daughter/son, but if you see them helping your kid up, or catching them before they fall then do so, your a douche. Its all in moderation, people are people, some good some bad, no need to treat everyone as a horrible human being, no need to trust them all, but living life with your head over your shoulder isn't a good way to live.
but my heads always been on top of my shoulders for my whole life
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ohh wait nevermind i get it lol its a metaphorr!! OH MY GODD
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I think the problem is like McCarthyism. There is this massive fear (or at least their will be), that anyone who shows an interest in anything vaguely communist, IS a communist and should be reported.
So, anyone who shows an interest in children, IS a pedophile and should be reported.
Most child molestation happens within families. There aren't strangers lurking around corners waiting to grab up your children and rape them.
Sure, it's happened, but should we derive our children of connection with adults, and people, because of the ever so slight chance they could be assaulted?
We might as well sit at home wearing body armor all day.
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On July 13 2008 02:09 Orome wrote:
There are more devious people than people with good intentions? wtf, what kind of world are you living in?
don't take devious to the extreme, it could be something quite trivial
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i think he was people sarcastic wizard lol
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On July 13 2008 02:12 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I think the problem is like McCarthyism. There is this massive fear (or at least their will be), that anyone who shows an interest in anything vaguely communist, IS a communist and should be reported.
So, anyone who shows an interest in children, IS a pedophile and should be reported.
Most child molestation happens within families. There aren't strangers lurking around corners waiting to grab up your children and rape them.
Sure, it's happened, but should we derive our children of connection with adults, and people, because of the ever so slight chance they could be assaulted?
We might as well sit at home wearing body armor all day.
BUT THEN WE CANT RUN WHEN WE...
PEDO MAGICALLY TRANSFIGURES RIGHT IN FRONT OF US AND RAPES US!!!!
The answer is to nuke everyone!
that way u get rid of all the pedos, obviously.
seriously though, just being a little cautious doesn't mean you are some prosaic tightwad
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On July 13 2008 02:14 HeavOnEarth wrote:
i think he was people sarcastic wizard lol
damn it >.<
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On July 13 2008 02:05 Wizard wrote:
the point is not about being distrustful, since most people should be as there are far more devious people than people with good intentions; rather, the point is that certain behaviors aren't accepted in North America [or at least not in public] to the point that they are accepted in Europe
LOL. I just can't stop laughing...
But please give an example of the trivial deviousness which devours most of us disgusting mortals.
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the main point is that it is better to be generally distrustful then to be overly trustful. Perhaps I should have said, "there are many people who will take advantage of your trustfulness."
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On July 13 2008 02:58 Wizard wrote:
"there are many people who will take advantage of your trustfulness."
So true so true...
It's sad that some people want to take advantage of the trustingfulness of people. Is this how life is supposed to be?
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On July 13 2008 03:10 Ozarugold wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2008 02:58 Wizard wrote:
"there are many people who will take advantage of your trustfulness." So true so true... It's sad that some people want to take advantage of the trustingfulness of people. Is this how life is supposed to be?
no, because people are supposedly born inherently good, but as we often see it is easy for people who have an evil streak to take advantage of others because it is so easy; "power corrupts".
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it's up to people to define their own "safety line"
people who are untrustful will have hard time living in the social so there's a trade-off for them too
just respect people's choice and apply "ignorance is bliss"
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you should have yelled something at the woman.
Ive never heard of anything as bad as youve said, but then again im rarely if ever around middle school aged children so meh
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On July 13 2008 01:16 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Even I experienced it. I was at the park, and some girl fell in the sand which I was near, and her parents weren't paying attention. The girl couldn't get up, so I helped her. I help her up, and the mom tells me "Don't touch my daughter!"
You don't want strangers appoaching your young child when you're a parent. I don't think the mother's comment had anything to do with fear of pedophilia, just general parental paranoia of anything that could harm the child. Although your motives were noble, sometimes it's best to not try to help in situations like this. Child stuck in the sand is not exactly a critical situation needing instant aid.
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He should have drowned the bitch for insinuating something like that.
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On July 13 2008 01:57 Ghardo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2008 01:47 GunsofthePatriots wrote:On July 13 2008 01:40 Ghardo wrote:
you live in the US. bad luck ;/
here in germany it's no big deal. if a 15 year old girl wants to be together with a 18,19,20 year old (or still older) it's no problem at all in most cases. in fact i see that happen very often because the >=18 year old usually owns a car already (among other things) and is therefore coooool~~*ggggg*
in my neighborhood was even a girl who came together with her singing teacher. she was 14 at that time and he something like mid 40s... the people were of course talking (as usual) but it was not prohibited nor were they directly confronted with any critique towards their relationship. (14 sounds a bit pedo maybe but biologically she was beyond her age - there are exceptions like that. she looked of course young, but not at all "flat chested" or smth, that's my point)
JUST AN EXAMPLE to illustrate what's possible here and in the US definitely wouldn't be.. even milder cases (as you described) would still be the utmost evil-doing.
but on the other hand your teenagers may already play and watch all the brutal video games and movies which are either indexed or "ab 18" in Ger. That's just as good isn't it?!?! :D .. 8[ (we are evil nazis and you don't want to tempt our blood..) a 40 year old with a 14 year old?... now that is just fucking weird. I could understand 30+20 year old 40+30 but 40+14?... i think 10 is a big enough age difference -_- what you think is not important. my point was merely that it's tolerated here. there are enough people living here and it was known to the whole town but nobody did try to stop them or even critize them openly. (not the parents, not some old conservative farts, nobody - talk, yes, lots of it) i just wanted to make clear what sexual freedom you have here in germany in contrast to north america. if the singing teacher in fact is pedo or if it was real love towards a person who does look more like 16-17 (mind you are of age at 18 here in germany) than 14 is not the question.
Well, what he does think is important because I don't think he'd want to live in a place where that's allowed, and I'm sure many people here agree. Pedophilia is not just about how the person looks, it's about taking advantage of a young person who makes stupid fucking decisions, as ALL young people do. The 14 year old would be an example of that. She's still going through puberty and her hormones are probably going crazy. I'd guess that she's not an adult mentally, and it is kinda fucked up that he's with her.
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The pedophilia issue does take on proportions of hysteria some times.
Really I think the laws are unfair ageist restrictions on freedom. A person isn't allowed to do things because society knows better than they do. There is a certain point where a child is indeed too young to know any better, but it sure as hell isn't 18 (16 I think makes the most sense as an age of consent).
There are reasons given about the power imbalance in certain relationships, that the girls are being exploited by men who have power and money. That is quite simply the sexual landscape of the country, and age is fairly irrelevant.
Then there are cases taht are clearly wrong. 40 and 14 strikes me that way, and prepubescence of course being a total cutoff.
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On July 13 2008 11:29 GeneralStan wrote:
The pedophilia issue does take on proportions of hysteria some times.
Really I think the laws are unfair ageist restrictions on freedom. A person isn't allowed to do things because society knows better than they do. There is a certain point where a child is indeed too young to know any better, but it sure as hell isn't 18 (16 I think makes the most sense as an age of consent).
There are reasons given about the power imbalance in certain relationships, that the girls are being exploited by men who have power and money. That is quite simply the sexual landscape of the country, and age is fairly irrelevant.
Then there are cases taht are clearly wrong. 40 and 14 strikes me that way, and prepubescence of course being a total cutoff.
In all honesty, is it only natural for a male to be attracted to a pubescent female. Regardless of the age? As long as she is sexually matured.
I remember getting into a debate with a guy about this, we only find the 40 and 14 year old example disgusting because it is what society has taught us. If the world lacked society that would be perfectly normal would it not?
Look at animals in the animal kingdom. Once a female reaches sexual maturity she is fair game. I'm pretty sure humans would also fall into this category.
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Again, physical maturity vs mental maturity.
If you want to have feelings for someone, then you need to take both into account.
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