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Ryot
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada316 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-21 03:22:29
June 21 2008 03:19 GMT
#1
This is my weekly-ish Blog which chronicles my learning of the Terran race. I do one about every week or so, doing brief battle reports on select games with a bunch of pictures for fun. And since it's a blog I throw in some random thoughts on whatever I feel like.

You can read my first one here: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=73169
Once again I want to thank everyone for the warm reception on it, you've motivated me to make more =D

(some ramblings on myself in the next few paragraphs, feel free to skip down to the battle report!)

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Something I wanted to write about in the first blog but didn't get around to was my SC background. After on-and-off casual playing, I came across some youtube professional SC videos, and decided to start taking my game seriously. In just two weeks I went from a casual UMS player to a semi-competent 100apm player with a working knowledge of build orders and hotkeys. I remember joining PGTour and WGTour (or whatever they were called), and losing literally every game. I finally gave up on Starcraft after going 1-15 or something like that on both ladders.

Fast forward about a year and a half. I'm hanging out with a bunch of Korean friends, and, naturally, the topic of conversation goes to Starcraft. I didn't feel like going through all that again, I had been humiliated already. Eventually a friend of mine showed me some more videos (commentaries in English!) and once again I was back into SC. I was terrible, barely pulling 100apm, and not able to manage a build order past 20 supply.

But damn it I didn't care if I lost, I just wanted to get back into it. Why, you say? Because motherfucking STARCRAFT 2 HAD JUST BEEN ANNOUNCED! I thought to myself, if a game 10 years old can still be fun, imagine the sequel! Of course, I had to get in shape and so I watched more VODs, found more Starcraft sites (including this one) and started playing on iccup.

Last season I was only a few games away from D+, and slowly but surely I was noticing some big improvements in terms of management and whatnot. I learned how to use shift, and how to hotkey areas (the shift+f2/f3/f4 thing). But... the season reset. And now with the competition higher than ever, I find myself in an interesting position. My gameplay is better than it has ever been, but my rank/record is bad. At the time of writing my rank is D- and my record is 5-15. Luckily, there seems a bunch of noob tosses out there that like trying to go 2-base carriers, so I should bounce back quite quickly =)

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Game 1: TvT on Andromeda

Ah, fuck. My most hated match-up. But luckily for me it's on one of my new favorite maps, the sexy Andromeda. Anyways, the game starts out without any serious cheese. We both go depot --> rax --> gas, but I put my rax in the middle of the map just for the hell of it. Fortunately for me, my marines get in, as does a vulture, causing him to lose some mining time.

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Semi-cheese ftw, even though I'm usually a very clean player.

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For some reason, Blizzard made SCVs African-American...

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The marine cheese was mildly successful, making him lose mining time. My first 3 vultures all got 1 or 2 kills before dying, so the second wave of cheese did a decent job as well. I pump out a tank while putting down TWO command centers(!). He is going 2fact vults as I find out, but I think he's slowed down enough, so it's time to take a macro lead.

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The tank pops out, with a second one on the way. The measly 3 vultures get a few SCV kills at the natural, but his counter attack has failed and my macro is about to kick in. Three command centers, one factory. Sounds like a sexy fetish website... Oh wait...

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And here we go, I'm at the part of TvT I hate. I didn't move to a forward position (fearing drops or something) and now I'm contained. Now I'm pissed. Pissed enough to make an epic SCV break.

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Game 2: TvP on Python

This was the best game I've played all season. Ironically, it's the game that pushed me into the D- rating. It was a pretty intense game and in the end I lose a war of attrition, not able to get a 4th expansion and beyond. My blob of mechnical death, while awesome, can't be everywhere at once.

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Remember last blog when I said I was rusty because I've had exams? Well, it truly shows here as I've gone dyslexic and screwed up my wall. Meanwhile, he is going 2-gate ranged goons, and he put a pylon next to where my machine shop would be to delay my tank. The tank gets out, I defend fine, and get my natural up and running.

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I continued to macro pretty well. At this point we are both at 3 bases (giving me an edge), and thus he commits to an attack. At the point in the picture, I am only behind by 5 supply, but he wins the battle, killing my min-only third base. The game goes back into macro mode, I rebuild desperately as the base situation temporarily becomes my 2 to his 4.

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macro macro macro, not much to say here. But look at the minimap and that sexy Terran blob. Placing mines/turrets everywhere ftw. In fact, it will make this next battle pivotal.

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This is the start of an epic battle. He is maxed, and I am down 50 supply and mining out my bases (currently trying to sneak an expo in bottom right). I don't know how to make a .gif, so in the following pictures you will behold my epic defense:
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Holy shit! I hold and I'm up 25 supply! Time to roll out and take revenge on the Protoss scum. Unfortunately, this epic tale is a tragedy, as yours truly - the Terran hero - bows out in a war of attrition. But not before some vengeance!

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He had over 9000 gateways and got an army back up, but it was no match for my ball of Terran greatness, and thus I kill the top left. But then, as I push to the other bases, and tragedy strikes:

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What a great time to run out of scans. I try and kill his last mining base, but DTs keep coming and my scans don't last. Meanwhile, my 4th and 5th bases have been picked off, leaving no economy:

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He has one mining base, I have zero, and not even enough for a command center. Nothing to do but "gg".

However, I'm glad that I lost to an actual decent Protoss, not one of those 100apm "1a2a3a4a" types.

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Replay: http://rapidshare.com/files/123463778/TvP_loss_3.rep.html
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Brief gameplay discussion:

The TvP game I used a FlaSh-type build with early upgrades, to 4facts, to a 3rd base. I like moving slowly with my awesome Terran blob. I guess you could say it's a pansy-strategy, but waiting until I'm maxed out and just rolling over everything is awesome. And for an inexperienced player like myself, it's a stable and reliable strategy.

For hotkeys, I use the shift-position hotkeys for my command centers for SCV production. I use quite a few for factories to keep tank production pretty constant. Usually I just hit 4t, 5t, 6v, 7v, then I start double-tapping the last factory to bring up all the others for vulture production. It works decently enough for me, though if you guys have anything better to suggest, by all means go ahead. The first three hotkeys are for units and the last 2 or 3 for scanners.

The main question I have is, how do you go about taking the 4th and 5th bases on Python in TvP (or TvZ for that matter)? Should I go for a main and hold the ramp up with part of my force? And I have no idea how much I should invest in those defenses , unfortunately I don't get to spam cannons to stop harassment =P
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Thanks for taking the time to go through this second entry of mine. I hope it wasn't too long and it was somewhat organized. Tell me what you guys think, I'd love to hear!

- Ryot

(edited - terrible initial formating! sorry!)

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RoC)Ninjah
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States238 Posts
June 21 2008 03:28 GMT
#2
5/5 nice writeup. I hate tvt aswell . I'm probably close to your level, maybe a little above, you should pm me sometime and we can play a few games :D
Much will win a title before his hair turns grey.
clazziquai
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
6685 Posts
June 21 2008 03:31 GMT
#3
OVER 9000 gateways!

Jokes aside I like this writeup. Good luck through the rest of the season. Good to see someone willing to get better.
#1 Sea.Really Fan / #1 Nesh Fan / Terran Forever~
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
June 21 2008 03:34 GMT
#4
hhah nice i hope u dont lose motivation and keep playing!! :D
Graphicssavior[gm] : What is a “yawn” rape ;; Masumune - It was the year of the pig for those fucking defilers. Chill - A clinic you say? okum: SC without Korean yelling is like porn without sex. konamix: HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOMMY!
inertinept
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Bangladesh1195 Posts
June 21 2008 03:35 GMT
#5
seems like you put a lot of emphasis on APM =[ until you get into the B ranks, APM means nothing bro. just focus on your own base and doing your own stuff and youll win most games at the D-/D rank. after that start adding in adaptation to your play based on your opponent. id start getting some "solid" builds down though that you can rely on in each MU.



With a gust of wind, perhaps.
Descent
Profile Joined January 2008
1244 Posts
June 21 2008 03:38 GMT
#6
=) Nice writeup, nice pictures~ Good luck, and good job~! ^^
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Ryot
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada316 Posts
June 21 2008 03:39 GMT
#7
Well since I don't do hardcore spamming I can somewhat use apm to gauge how my multi-tasking is. And I honestly don't ever seen good players w/ only 100. But let's not get into a stupid apm discussion!

My internet is down and I'm on the laptop, which sucks for gaming =/ Glad you guys like my write-ups, and sure PM me for practice games (ideally I wanna get people a bit better than me for every race =P)
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32277 Posts
June 21 2008 03:40 GMT
#8
Nice reports!

I love how people have been getting the initiative to start making battle reports again!

Love them! keep it up!
Moderator<:3-/-<
Straylight
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada706 Posts
June 21 2008 03:43 GMT
#9
I'm glad this blog contains lots of pictures and diagrams and stuff. Makes it better than the generic iccup blog.
It felt like gravity.
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32277 Posts
June 21 2008 03:50 GMT
#10
On June 21 2008 12:43 Straylight wrote:
I'm glad this blog contains lots of pictures and diagrams and stuff. Makes it better than the generic iccup blog.


Agreed too!
Moderator<:3-/-<
Equinox_kr
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States7395 Posts
June 21 2008 03:52 GMT
#11
I salute people like you, Ryot. Bravely playing despite the odds

I love your pictures haha
^-^
riptide
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
5673 Posts
June 21 2008 04:06 GMT
#12
I love these kind of writeups. We should play sometime, though you'll probably facestomp me.
AdministratorSKT T1 | Masters of the Universe
Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
June 21 2008 04:31 GMT
#13
5/5
brilliant.
i laughed at the fail pic.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11555 Posts
June 21 2008 05:20 GMT
#14
lol blue soup.

5/5
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
Fish_Baguettes
Profile Joined March 2008
Australia589 Posts
June 21 2008 06:36 GMT
#15
Very entertaining, will read again. I liked the fail security camera behind the monitor picture!

Write more plz =D
hymn
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Bulgaria832 Posts
June 21 2008 07:23 GMT
#16
Very entertaining stuff! Keep it up!
azk he is the north american player but the titan he is the french stars
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
June 21 2008 09:02 GMT
#17
Another great writeup

It makes me really happy that people who are just reaching the level of competitive play where they can use iccup seem to be so captivated by StarCraft. There's a huge wave of new blood in the game right now
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
NotSupporting
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden1998 Posts
June 21 2008 09:52 GMT
#18
Very nice read. Always expect DTs as a final solution from a protoss player.
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
June 21 2008 11:52 GMT
#19
loving it <3
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France7966 Posts
June 22 2008 11:26 GMT
#20
On June 21 2008 12:39 Ryot wrote:
Well since I don't do hardcore spamming I can somewhat use apm to gauge how my multi-tasking is. And I honestly don't ever seen good players w/ only 100. But let's not get into a stupid apm discussion!

My internet is down and I'm on the laptop, which sucks for gaming =/ Glad you guys like my write-ups, and sure PM me for practice games (ideally I wanna get people a bit better than me for every race =P)


Well, you know, the only very good player I know which doesn't do (or at least pretends not to do) any spamming after very early game is Brat.OK and he I've seen replays of him with 80 apm (that's exceptional though, his avergae is rather 150-180).

Ok, you see him going to 200 if the game is long and intense, but what I mean is that you can play damn fast with "quite" low apm.

The problem is that newcomers think that they will get good by spamming hotkeys, which imo is slowing them down rather than helping them to be fast...

By the way, great writting. As a terran player, I always have vs zerg and toss a scanner I don't use for mapvision in case some dt or lurker shows up. It's my third base scanner, hotkey 8. Can help a looot. And well, it's too sad to be caught with your giant tank army by 6 dt which rape it in 15 seconds...
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
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