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Phyre
United States1288 Posts
http://forums.relicnews.com/showthread.php?t=186907 While the OP may not be terribly interesting, scrolling through a few of the replies are pretty funny. Funny to see what some people value in an RTS. One guy literally said he could just watch 2-3 CoH reps a day and be thoroughly entertained indefinitely. Also of note is that there community isn't entirely without reason. There are quite a few people there putting in a good word for Starcraft.   | ||
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ahrara_
Afghanistan1715 Posts
These are games that have a different appeal than starcraft. They're focused on tactics and micromanagement and pretty graphics and How many other RTS's have your men screaming out on a consistent basis "Schiesse I'm hit!" or "Aw fuck that almost hit me!" or who could forget "Eat lead motherfucker!" , whereas starcraft is more cerebral.None of 'em, dammit! | ||
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Physician
United States4146 Posts
hum.. pass | ||
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Hurricane
United States3939 Posts
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XCetron
5226 Posts
You hear that boxer? better switch to CoH. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
Oh: IMO CoH is the third best RTS next to BW and WC3. | ||
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Gokey
United States2722 Posts
On March 27 2008 19:53 XCetron wrote: "CoH best RTS. simply cause you have to micro everything. it's something i like. in Starcraft etc. micro istn't that important. in CoH, if you misplace an mg or an AT gun, it could make you lose a fight." You hear that boxer? better switch to CoH. People who say shit like that are obviously retarded and haven't played SC on a competitive level The thing is, for most of us here, our whole approach to RTS games has changed once going through the pro scene and emulating our favorite pro players... for the "average" gamer, they don't have the concept of multitasking to the degree that competitive gaming requires That said, CoH is an amazing game. It is not in the same genre as Starcraft, as it is more of a smaller-squad tactical RTS... The game played at a high level is amazingly beautiful and just as majestic as its amazing graphics and sounds... There is a surprising amount of things to do in the game, with a constant tug-of-war of skirmishes and positioning. The people in this thread who have played the game only superficially are just as guilty at bashing CoH as the referenced "noobs" in the CoH site bashing Starcraft. Both games are amazing and have competitive potential, and IMO are the two best RTS games in the past decade. | ||
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Coulthard
Greece3359 Posts
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lololol
5198 Posts
On March 27 2008 16:58 ahrara_ wrote: Never played CoH, but is it anything like World in Conflict? Judging by IGN's video review, it's very very similar. These are games that have a different appeal than starcraft. They're focused on tactics and micromanagement and pretty graphics and , whereas starcraft is more cerebral. CoH doesn't have anything in common with that piece of crap in a box called WiC. | ||
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SayaSP
Laos5494 Posts
On March 27 2008 19:53 XCetron wrote: "CoH best RTS. simply cause you have to micro everything. it's something i like. in Starcraft etc. micro istn't that important. in CoH, if you misplace an mg or an AT gun, it could make you lose a fight." You hear that boxer? better switch to CoH. Hahahahahaha micro isnt that important | ||
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Gokey
United States2722 Posts
On March 27 2008 23:40 lololol wrote: CoH doesn't have anything in common with that piece of crap in a box called WiC. Yeah, WiC sucked balls | ||
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ahrara_
Afghanistan1715 Posts
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karelen
Sweden2407 Posts
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Woyn
United Kingdom1628 Posts
On March 27 2008 20:25 Slayer91 wrote: In fairness to these guys a lot of them aren't just saying CoH is the best rts ever, whereas pretty much every one here would say SC: BW is. Oh: IMO CoH is the third best RTS next to BW and WC3. Id say Armies of Exigo, unpatched and abandoned, is still better than all other RTS and would be 3rd imo. Had it been supported fully we might have had a rival for 2nd who knows | ||
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ahrara_
Afghanistan1715 Posts
On March 28 2008 02:10 karelen wrote: WiC crashed like once every 15 min for me, sure they might have patched it up by now (have they..?) but it pisses me off when companies crank out half finished games. so i pretty much lost interest because of that It must've been just you. I played an unpatched version that never crashed. WiC was hardly unpolished. It wasn't cranked out by any means. If your isolated crash experience is all you're judging it by, then I have to say you're missing out. | ||
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The_Yango
United States16 Posts
Now after 1.5 years I am still playing COH. There must be something in it !!! I lol'd when i read this, seeing as I've been playing Starcraft on and off for 8 years now. | ||
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Phyre
United States1288 Posts
I just find the reasonings behind some of the assertions in the thread I linked to are laughable. Simply saying any game is the best without any firm reasoning behind it is folly. If I said "Starcraft is obviously the best RTS because I can make critters explode by clicking on them a lot" I'm fairly certain you'd all assume I'm retarded. I may find SC:BW to be the best RTS of all time but as there is no true quantitative measure to determine the "best" it falls to opinion. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but I'm going to laugh my ass off if you tell me an RTS is the best ever because replays are entertaining alone. | ||
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ahrara_
Afghanistan1715 Posts
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Tropics
United Kingdom1132 Posts
The micro in it was a lot of fun though. There's not much funnier than circling and killing 3 stugs in a row with your sherman while only taking 1 or 2 hits. I'd probably be playing the expansion right now if I hadn't discovered Starcraft. Definitely a damn fine game and one I wouldn't mind getting back into someday. | ||
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nofAcedAgent
United States952 Posts
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Hurricane
United States3939 Posts
On March 27 2008 20:25 Slayer91 wrote: In fairness to these guys a lot of them aren't just saying CoH is the best rts ever, whereas pretty much every one here would say SC: BW is. Except we have proof that SC:BW is better. I am not slighting on CoH because I have never played it and from what I've heard it is a good game, but considering all of starcraft's achievements in the RTS genre and in gaming in general it is quite clear that we have a damn good reason to say SC: BW is the best RTS ever. | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
On March 28 2008 06:01 Tropics wrote: I used to play CoH for a few months when it first came out, long before I discovered SC. It was good but it had so little variety. There were only 4 1v1 maps for the ladder and 2 races that are near identical. Also, it was really easy, more about playing games than actual skill if you wanted to get to the top of the ladder. Not to mention the balance was pretty bad and out of your 3 special skill paths only 1 was really viable for each faction. Not sure what it's like now but I had a lot of fun with it. Of course, after playing SC it's slow as hell. You can play at 20 apm and win games. The micro in it was a lot of fun though. There's not much funnier than circling and killing 3 stugs in a row with your sherman while only taking 1 or 2 hits. I'd probably be playing the expansion right now if I hadn't discovered Starcraft. Definitely a damn fine game and one I wouldn't mind getting back into someday. That sounds a lot like Age of empires 3. Basically I could get to the same rank as lvl 70s as a lvl 15 and outmicro some musketeer rusher w/5 shipped strels/skirms. The apm thing was too easy too. You could basically leave the game for a few seconds and win. The people's skill levels were bad because people had to play people of the same level (ranking system, and only the top twelve aoe3 players got any good). Everyone played normal speed because that was the only way for a game to count as a win. Then there's imba, I once rushed a guy and killed him with his 3 allies helping him using Russians. Russians have the best booming cuz they can build the most villagers using batch training, (similar to zerg building drones on fastest) and the best rush using strelets and muskets, until natives came along. Even then games took an hour to finish and 15 minutes to find a working game. In short I would hate CoH. Identical races worked in some games like C&C , red alert, and aoe2, but not in these. You might like these games. Maybe CoH w/ aoe3 is an unfair comparison seeing as i've never played it. | ||
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FragKrag
United States11554 Posts
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