Christianity Questions - Page 4

On January 30 2008 18:03 Yuljan wrote:
A question not directly related to christianity. But did you have alot of self esteem issues? You sound like some overzealous fanatic and I met many muslims who arent as hateful as you are. Some of you claim the bible isnt meant to be taken literally, but those muslims say the same about the quran. I would consider you the same as those hardcore muslim suicide bombers, because you have the perfect personality. Im sure a young boy like you can easily be influenced to die for his religion and thinking its honorable. Its funny you hate those who are most similar to yourself.

On January 30 2008 05:13 Jibba wrote:
f0rgiv3n,

-Jesus confirming the Old Testament in the New Testament.

Why wouldn't you follow the passage from Deuteronomy? Personally, I wouldn't because I believe it's immoral.

As for Pascal, my point was that he is not using rational thinking. Rational thinking entails both a sound and valid argument. His argument is structurally valid (if you believe the premises, the conclusion is 100% true), but its premises are bad therefore it isn't sound. I can think of plenty of reasons to believe in God, but rational thinking is not one of them. That is the point of faith, and on that I cannot dispute you.

On January 30 2008 17:44 TechniQ.UK wrote:
My next question, if I may, concerns different religions. Hindus, Muslims, Pagans the world over have had similar experiences with a god or gods. They, being in a different part of the world or living at a different time, chalk their experience up to a different entity. Presumably they are all wrong, what makes you think you are correct?

The way it works is that diety's like hindu gods, allah etc... (and allah is not the god of the bible so lets not even go there) they are a front for the devil, any man made false gods, or idols such as rocks etc... that are used in islam, this is also a front for the devil, therefore the belief and power from this worship goes to him and not the true living God of the bible, this is why its a sin. Now any experiences they got from their belief in islam, hinduism etc... is basically this, the devil throwing his worshippers a bone, to keep them believing and to rail them in deeper and deeper to do his bidding, this is how we get suicide bombers, islamic extremists. I mean how does the living God of the bible go from saying hey, your all saved by Yah'shua so stop sinning and hating, to sending another prophet muhammmad who is instructing people to kill and to go crazy and get angry for their religion, as i said before its also said that allah went down to hell to torture souls from time to time, do you really think his Holyness, the greatest being the most Holy and powerful and kind and loving God the father, went down to hell to satisfy his amusement? Ofcourse not.

On January 31 2008 06:41 ilj.psa wrote:

The old testament is known in the bible as "The Law".
Since people are naturally born sinners and always were..
How could humanity earn a moral compass for good without a set of law/punish system if we are born sinners? The Law is self-explanatory word of what God instruct us to do and punished sin and corruption of man to acquire a moral compass. How would we know whats wrong and whats right without a set of punishments to make humanity better and morally right? I believe thats an example of how God wants the best for us and the love of God for humanity.
Exactly like Father and Son. Father punishes son when he does wrong, so the son grow up right and to understand whats wrong/right thing to do.

On January 31 2008 06:41 ilj.psa wrote:
The old testament is known in the bible as "The Law".

On January 31 2008 08:05 ilj.psa wrote:
sure you would, we now understand the concept of right/wrong thanks to the set of law/punish system that god made for us to acquire a moral compass on whats wrong to do and right.

On January 31 2008 08:47 TechniQ.UK wrote:
i dont hate muslims i think there the greatest religious followers in the world, i just hate they follow the wrong religion.

On January 31 2008 10:14 Mindcrime wrote:


That's incorrect. The Torah is The Law, and the Torah is only one part of the Tanakh.

On January 31 2008 10:54 Jibba wrote:
So you support the stoning of friends/family/anyone who tries to lead you astray from Christianity? At certain points in the Bible, Jesus supports the Golden Rule, but there are many other religions who do a much more consistent job of teaching love/compassion, and there are clearly points within the Bible where the word of God is NOT compassionate or forgiving.

Do you believe slavery is morally admissible because the New Testament does? These are contradictions that you cannot ignore, and leaving them up for "interpretation" in the 21st century is not a viable option, because they are still moral according to the word of God. If you believe they are immoral, which I hope you do, then you're doing so based on a set of morals that are independent of the Bible.

Belief set Z is consistent with set Y in the Bible, but inconsistent with set X in the Bible. You support set Z, therefore you reject set X. That's fine, but clearly set Z does not exist because the Bible says it does.

On February 01 2008 07:58 ilj.psa wrote:


Thats a misleading argument, since Slavery was like a job and a way of life back then in the Roman empire which is not at all like slavery is today.
Ill give you a link to read if your interested about this and if you have enough time:
http://www.christian-thinktank.com/qnoslave.html

On February 01 2008 07:35 Phyre wrote:

Wow, just wow...

I don't hate you, I just hate that you follow the wrong lifestyle.

What a fool you are. Religion is for the weak.