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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-26 02:45:47
September 26 2019 02:42 GMT
#1
Hi all,

It's been a while since I last wrote a blog so I figured that I'll share one of my recent games with everyone. I haven't played anywhere as much as usual since I stepped down as BW EiC, but I have gotten some interesting back and forth games, and I feel like my skill level has gotten close to what it was before. The game is still as amazing as ever when two players who are closely matched in skill play each other and I highly recommend any readers who want to try BW take the plunge and give it a go. We also just got colors added in the newest patch so there's that to look forward too as well! :D

On that note, late game TvZ is still as hard, fun and rewarding as I remember. You essentially have to:
1) Keep macro going at all times to avoid missing production cycles and keep income going.
2) Keep tabs on the Zerg at all times for expansion timings, army movement etc...
3) Stay aggressive so that the Zerg doesn't get out of control, involving lots of scans and irradiation.
4) Micro properly against ultraling with defiler and lurker support. Plague+swarm is a deadly combo.
5) Stay defensive with just enough units at your mining bases because a Zerg army can strike and retreat quickly.

Obligatory: "Defilers are still an imba unit!"



Here are some must-watch moments for those that don't want to watch the whole thing:
a) Not great, not good, pretty bad...
b) I'm listening ~
c) First One
d) Endless
e) The Snipe
f) Here's Another
g) Maximum Power?
h) Spidey Sense!
i) Oops...
j) Plague imba
k) IMMORTAL vessels!
l) Gonna do this all night?
m) The time is nigh!
n) End in sight?
o) End in sight? x2
p) GG

a), e), h), and k) are my favourites. I also apparently play better in SD mode than RM with the bigger widescreen, go figure. Let me know what you guys think and let's all bask in the glory that is TvZ

**
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Ty2
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1434 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-26 03:07:58
September 26 2019 03:04 GMT
#2
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FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10135 Posts
September 26 2019 14:38 GMT
#3
War of Attrition: Bigfan dodges you until you're so tired of it that when he finally agrees to play you, you're so mentally exhausted. Excellent tactic. Art of War more like Art of Dodging.
Writer#1 KT and FlaSh Fanboy || Woo Jung Ho Never Forget || Teamliquid Political Decision Desk
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
September 26 2019 20:05 GMT
#4
On September 26 2019 12:04 Ty2 wrote:
Watching the sick hold vs ultras at h). Look at all of Zerg's bases and am astounded Bigfan somehow wins... Then looks at 13k/6k bank and not so astounded anymore...

Jokes aside, cool blog.

Best moment for me:
[image loading]

haha well, I only started banking heavily after I maxed. I think I was at 3.5k? on 3 mining bases at like 165 supply. That bank is the reason I was in it since I mined out most of my bases.

On September 26 2019 23:38 FlaShFTW wrote:
War of Attrition: Bigfan dodges you until you're so tired of it that when he finally agrees to play you, you're so mentally exhausted. Excellent tactic. Art of War more like Art of Dodging.

Nice try. That's not how it works, but that's a very good strategy. I should try it sometime!
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
September 26 2019 21:23 GMT
#5
What a game. 33:33 is a Terran's dream. Would love to see Zergs point of view. Btw, there's something funny going on with the gas mining at the Z nat at 32mins.
EsportsJohn
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4883 Posts
September 28 2019 08:23 GMT
#6
My hydra den cause some funky pathing, so I had to build a weird, out of place sunken to fix it, and then later in the game, it randomly decided to break again ;;
StrategyAllyssa Grey <3<3
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-29 11:56:42
September 29 2019 11:55 GMT
#7
dat thumbnailz

On September 26 2019 23:38 FlaShFTW wrote:
War of Attrition: Bigfan dodges you until you're so tired of it that when he finally agrees to play you, you're so mentally exhausted. Excellent tactic. Art of War more like Art of Dodging.


Hahahaha and "I only play TvZ"
Please send me a PM of any song you like that I most probably never heard of! I am looking for people to chat about writing and producing music | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noD-bsOcxuU |
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10135 Posts
September 29 2019 22:46 GMT
#8
On September 29 2019 20:55 JieXian wrote:
dat thumbnailz

Show nested quote +
On September 26 2019 23:38 FlaShFTW wrote:
War of Attrition: Bigfan dodges you until you're so tired of it that when he finally agrees to play you, you're so mentally exhausted. Excellent tactic. Art of War more like Art of Dodging.


Hahahaha and "I only play TvZ"

the classic matchup dodge.
Writer#1 KT and FlaSh Fanboy || Woo Jung Ho Never Forget || Teamliquid Political Decision Desk
TL+ Member
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
October 01 2019 01:01 GMT
#9
On September 27 2019 06:23 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
What a game. 33:33 is a Terran's dream. Would love to see Zergs point of view. Btw, there's something funny going on with the gas mining at the Z nat at 32mins.

My guess is that john saw the vessels coming in and just clicked on the gas then realized that made things worse and tried to spread them out lol.

On September 30 2019 07:46 FlaShFTW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2019 20:55 JieXian wrote:
dat thumbnailz

On September 26 2019 23:38 FlaShFTW wrote:
War of Attrition: Bigfan dodges you until you're so tired of it that when he finally agrees to play you, you're so mentally exhausted. Excellent tactic. Art of War more like Art of Dodging.


Hahahaha and "I only play TvZ"

the classic matchup dodge.

Coming from the guy who quit playing the game! :>
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-01 07:22:26
October 01 2019 07:20 GMT
#10
On September 28 2019 17:23 EsportsJohn wrote:
My hydra den cause some funky pathing, so I had to build a weird, out of place sunken to fix it, and then later in the game, it randomly decided to break again ;;

Just the price to pay for playing against BigFan.... everyone would know when you lose, and not when you win

But honestly congrats to BigFan for improving in his BW play.
Please send me a PM of any song you like that I most probably never heard of! I am looking for people to chat about writing and producing music | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noD-bsOcxuU |
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
October 02 2019 01:55 GMT
#11
Well, no one is stopping John from posting his own battle reports! :O

On a more serious note, I haven't record an FPV in ages and this game just happened to be the first one I recorded so figured that I must share it!

Thanks! Now stop doj-ing me and let's get some games going!
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
EsportsJohn
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4883 Posts
October 02 2019 07:15 GMT
#12
On October 01 2019 10:01 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2019 06:23 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
What a game. 33:33 is a Terran's dream. Would love to see Zergs point of view. Btw, there's something funny going on with the gas mining at the Z nat at 32mins.

My guess is that john saw the vessels coming in and just clicked on the gas then realized that made things worse and tried to spread them out lol.

Show nested quote +
On September 30 2019 07:46 FlaShFTW wrote:
On September 29 2019 20:55 JieXian wrote:
dat thumbnailz

On September 26 2019 23:38 FlaShFTW wrote:
War of Attrition: Bigfan dodges you until you're so tired of it that when he finally agrees to play you, you're so mentally exhausted. Excellent tactic. Art of War more like Art of Dodging.


Hahahaha and "I only play TvZ"

the classic matchup dodge.

Coming from the guy who quit playing the game! :>


It was more like, "Oh hey, he's trying to do eraser. I'll just burr-...fuck."
StrategyAllyssa Grey <3<3
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