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riotjune
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States3394 Posts
February 17 2018 02:34 GMT
#41
As much as it is Blizzard's right to flex their copyright infringement muscles and try to monetize whatever's in their ip, sometimes they should just back off and let the community grow. Alienate the players and Blizzard just killed the goose, winding up with nothing.
Baneour
Profile Blog Joined February 2018
105 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-17 14:43:43
February 17 2018 14:28 GMT
#42
It's probably possible to do this, but who would?


Maybe nobody. Maybe a class-action firm. Very probably nobody, but it's an interesting legal question.

The only aspect that damages you is that for instance there are more than 100,000 people on the ladder


I don't see how that is damage at law.

So, yeah, it's obviously fraud committed by Blizzard


I'm dense. I still don't see that it's obviously fraud... ?

For example...

I own a jewelry shop. I see you looking at rings. I know you believe the ring you are interested in is real gold. Ordinarily gold rings cost $100, but I will sell you THIS ring for $80, I tell you. You accept.

That's fraud.

Fraud is a very serious accusation - you are basically saying Blizzard intentionally scammed people out of money. Doing their jobs incompetently is a slightly different matter - you might go to misrepresentation, or even negligence, but it's not clear what duty of care a game company owes to a gaming community... though I would be really interested to hear if someone knew cases/theory on that.

The main question I am wondering though, is what is the legal harm? Even if there is a duty-of-care to gaming communities by game companies, what loss was suffered?

To avoid misrepresentation - I'm not a lawyer, I'm just interested.
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
February 17 2018 18:11 GMT
#43
Back when I had first heard about plans to release SC2. I was hopeful that my favourite game would be popular so that I could enjoy it with everyone else without having them be put off by how old BW was.

My hopes were crushed after really getting into for a year, SC2 was not what I had hoped it to be.

When I had first heard about plans to release SC:RM, I was hopeful. I was hopeful that my favourite game would be popular so that I could enjoy it with everyone else without having them be put off by how old BW is.

It has not been a year since its release... I haven't even had the time to play BW since more than one year ago, but I just wish that more people would be able to share in the joy of what I experience in playing BW.

Hence I remain hopeful.
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IntoTheEmo
Profile Joined February 2009
Singapore1170 Posts
February 18 2018 13:00 GMT
#44
I've been way too engaged in my other hobbies over the last year or so to follow BW as devoutly as I used to, but it's always depressing reading how SC:R went and how much Blizzard is letting their BW fans down. (I still follow the forums.)

It's scary, cause with them announcing WoW Vanilla servers to come in the future, I have a feeling this won't be the last time they do this. It's like they can't seem to figure out what people loved about their old games. Or maybe they just don't want to.

BW is my favourite spectator esport; WoW is my favourite game (was). Being a fan of both has been rough since 2010/12.
MMOs kill APM. However Proleague plus BW Proscene music increase APM -> 100. 이제동 Fighting! Highest ranked Jaedong owner in FPL10 = clearly #1 Jaedong fan~! <- Keeping my sig from 2010
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
April 21 2019 19:58 GMT
#45
Ironically after being tired by waiting on ladder queue and seeing no one is joining my game being AFK for long minutes I just google "Starcraft remastered is dead" and stumbled upon your blog.
I really dislike current situation of SC they're pushing some minor updates once in a while, ignoring major problems (especially the ones which were absent before on 1.16.1). Population is so low due to devs not executing their promises. Nothing has changed.

And I hate launcher so much: it takes 2-3 min. at start for me to get SC started for first (Compared to 5 sec. before and I'm not playing on potato, it's i5). Menus when transitioning are also kinda laggy.

This game needs more attention and more devs. I'm sure if they were pushing updates every month like WoW this game could get fixed less than year fully!
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virpi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany3599 Posts
April 22 2019 18:35 GMT
#46
I still enjoy watching korean BW, but I don't want to play the game anymore. It's too much of an effort to be fun. (Call me a filthy casual, if you want to.) The release of remastered came too soon, lots of features were missing at that time, some still are. They've completely half-assed RM, which is really sad.
BW surely would not have been "revived" in foreigner land, but more old players actually would have played more than 10 games if some key features would have been implemented at RM's release.
You have to be realistic, though. BW is 21 years old. We're in oldtimer territory now. Basically, BW players are like those dudes who like to meet up with their GTs and Mustangs from the 70s.
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