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tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
August 06 2017 17:06 GMT
#1
Like the rest of you, I've been spending the past few days watching the group stages of TI7. It's been a really fun time, especially as a Liquid fan. But I've been watching much more than Liquid games. Dota 2 is really fun right now.

What makes any game fun to watch and follow? I'd argue the central factor is the competitive balance struck between skill and chance. A balanced game is one in which the players and teams with the most skill rise to the top, but one where there's enough uncertainty thrown in that there's room for surprises and upsets. In any given game, there is a favorite and an underdog, but there's enough suspense about the result that neutral viewers tune in anyway. In traditional sports, fans love dynasties, and they love watching dynasties fall. An ideal competitive scene gives you both.

But there are additional factors that are unique to esports, where the rules and nature of the game frequently change. These have bearing on the competitive balance, but are also independent of them. For instance, I'd suggest that the ideal Dota 2 game from a viewing perspective takes 30-40 minutes, similar to the viewing time of a standard episode of television or a half of soccer. I'd suggest that Dota 2 is best when there are a wide variety of strategies that can win; pushing strats, ganking strats, split pushing strats, lategame 4 protect 1 strats, and so on. I'd argue that average Dota2 game should be reasonably close for 75% of the time, and once a team takes a strong lead, it shouldn't belabor the point, unless the team at a deficit stages a comeback. It should be hard, but not impossible to do this.

I've watched every edition of The International, and two tournaments in particular strike me as being poor: TI4 and TI6. In both tournaments, the meta was out of whack. I remember TI4 being characterized by unstoppable pushing strategies, and snowballing leads. I remember TI6 as being a tournament of "rubber-banding" games, where no lead was safe to a high ground reversal, and "epic" comebacks became so commonplace that they stopped being interesting or impressive. While TI4's overall results were still pretty "fair," with the best teams making it to the finals, TI6's results were goofy, with two qualifier teams making the finals, and half of the invites missing out on the winners bracket. It's no surprise that TI7 features just one of the players who played in the TI6 finals, and that player is only in Seattle as a standin (and also is, for my money, the best of those ten players).

That's why this TI7 is so refreshing. The favorites have looked like the favorites, and five of six made the winners bracket. But there's still room for surprises, and the groupstages featured plenty of examples of top teams dropping games to underdogs. Moreover, we saw every type of game in the groupstage. There were massive stomps and prolonged defensive battles. We saw some comebacks, and one really extraordinary reversal that I saw (TNC vs LGD, game two). High ground is a challenge to break, but not impossible. Laning advantage is important, but not game-deciding.

What's best I think is that we've seen a lot of room for the personalities of different teams to emerge. Some teams play with sacrificial, team oriented #1 positions, and others play with dominant classical farming #1s. Some rely on dual cores with a powerful farming mid laner, while others use a mid laner in the classical tempo setting and playmaking role. There is tremendous flexibility in how teams lane and how supports position themselves to get an early advantage. Almost every hero has been picked, and many can be played in multiple positions. The current meta is, to my eyes, an almost perfect blend which allows individual player skill and team strategy to really shine, and it's made watching this TI an unexpected treat.
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TRAP[yoo]
Profile Joined December 2009
Hungary6026 Posts
August 06 2017 17:28 GMT
#2
just like everyone else you only seem to remember some particular games of the ti4 playoffs.
overall the teams had very different playstyles just like they do now
FTD
Jisira
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
470 Posts
August 07 2017 12:25 GMT
#3
TI4 post group-stage was Newbee waking up, taking down two weak EU teams then brawling with IG to get a WB berth where they figured out VG who faced them two out of the three BoX series they had in the playoffs.
If you're thinking about the EG vs VG LB finals, games 1 and 3, they had some very questionable choices both during draft and in-game from EG.
The rest of the games were good, for the most part.
YourGoodFriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2197 Posts
August 07 2017 16:28 GMT
#4
Yeah I have really enjoyed just watching dota this TI, it doesnt feel like there is one strat to rule them all or even the "better" strat (hoohohaha) that you have to counter either in draft or in game. Also I feel like more heros are actually playable this year. Like we are not seeing the same basic matchup in every game but instead getting things I have never really seen before (Visage carry O.o). It just is so fun to watch right now
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Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11916 Posts
August 07 2017 16:41 GMT
#5
On August 08 2017 01:28 YourGoodFriend wrote:
Yeah I have really enjoyed just watching dota this TI, it doesnt feel like there is one strat to rule them all or even the "better" strat (hoohohaha) that you have to counter either in draft or in game. Also I feel like more heros are actually playable this year. Like we are not seeing the same basic matchup in every game but instead getting things I have never really seen before (Visage carry O.o). It just is so fun to watch right now

4 protect 1 does not seem to work. That is the only thing I've seen tried out and failed even with good play. It has won games but just seems straight up worse.
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-08 19:22:16
August 08 2017 19:21 GMT
#6
Wrong thread.
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VGhost
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3616 Posts
August 09 2017 00:35 GMT
#7
Wonder whether this feeling is holding up after watching Liquid and EG blown out of the upper bracket? Love to see a follow-up after (or even halfway through) the elimination stages.
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Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1137 Posts
August 13 2017 01:58 GMT
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