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Brood War: Korean Resurgence - 3 Years Onward - Page 2

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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19299 Posts
August 01 2016 23:46 GMT
#21
On August 02 2016 07:59 Chill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2016 23:13 BisuDagger wrote:
On August 01 2016 13:39 riotjune wrote:
The real question is how do we get new blood to play an oldass game with all the new stuff out there?

Dedicated contributors and more foreign content can go a long way. Getting sponsor money will really help with that. I'm so close to landing sponsor money, but its very hard

What can we do to help? "Generate content" is the simplest answer I guess?

When do we get a mana spirits update?
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duke91
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany1458 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-02 05:18:59
August 02 2016 05:18 GMT
#22
On August 02 2016 03:01 palexhur wrote:
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On August 02 2016 01:54 BisuDagger wrote:
On August 02 2016 01:14 Dental Floss wrote:
On August 01 2016 22:54 Harris1st wrote:
On August 01 2016 13:39 riotjune wrote:
The real question is how do we get new blood to play an oldass game with all the new stuff out there?


Money


I think that SC2 is proof that you can't "buy" an esport. You have to have a spontaneous/organic community interest, a game who's complexity supports long term development, and a proscene that is competitive, driven, and differentiated by skill.

edit; I mean, how do you get a kid to play Baseball? That game is old as heck! The answer is found in the community that supports it.

That doesn't make sense at all. SC2 is not proof of anything. The WCS system exists for foreign gamers in SC2 and has the funding from Blizzard. The Brood War community is 20 years strong, but there simply aren't tournaments and a WCS to make the game seem more enticing for those new players to be attracted to the game enough to reach a high skill level.


I am with you in this one, you need money, because BW is an old game, it has the community (In Korea) but it doesnt have the money anywhere. SC2 is the contrary, has the money but not the community (In Korea).


crowdfunding?

honestly if OGN would just crowdfound their tournaments, we would have enough to finance proleague

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HaN-
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
France1920 Posts
August 02 2016 09:14 GMT
#23
I think it's time for a Brood War Reunion Tournament #2.

That's the kind of content I want.
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Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
August 02 2016 10:44 GMT
#24
On August 02 2016 08:17 FlaShFTW wrote:
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On August 01 2016 15:59 Alur wrote:
Blizzard is the party who could make the most meaningful steps towards revitalizing BW, by way of patches, cross-promotion on Battle.net and hosting tournaments at blizzcon.

As for the community? Watch, play, make content surrounding the game (video, streaming, articles etc.) and lobby organizations to host events. I'm really hoping shield battery takes off, that would be a much needed first step.

please no patches ffs. i want to keep BW the way it is.

I'm very much not talking about balance patches, more along the lines of improving compatibility, networking, battle.net or the map editor.
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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6996 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-02 11:47:00
August 02 2016 11:44 GMT
#25
On August 02 2016 01:14 Dental Floss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2016 22:54 Harris1st wrote:
On August 01 2016 13:39 riotjune wrote:
The real question is how do we get new blood to play an oldass game with all the new stuff out there?


Money


I think that SC2 is proof that you can't "buy" an esport. You have to have a spontaneous/organic community interest, a game who's complexity supports long term development, and a proscene that is competitive, driven, and differentiated by skill.

edit; I mean, how do you get a kid to play Baseball? That game is old as heck! The answer is found in the community that supports it.


Well, they start playing Baseball because of friends, familiy , whatever but they keep playing because they dream of fame, money, ....



On August 02 2016 07:59 Chill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2016 23:13 BisuDagger wrote:
On August 01 2016 13:39 riotjune wrote:
The real question is how do we get new blood to play an oldass game with all the new stuff out there?

Dedicated contributors and more foreign content can go a long way. Getting sponsor money will really help with that. I'm so close to landing sponsor money, but its very hard

What can we do to help? "Generate content" is the simplest answer I guess?


Make a new Teamliquid Starleague / tournament and get Chill to commentate!!! Oh the the memories

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arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
August 21 2016 04:09 GMT
#26
Honestly what i wanna see is something like the SC2 Bnet interface, but with chat channels, and SC2 style match making but maybe with a better ladder system than whats in now(sc2 wise)
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EsportsJohn
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4883 Posts
August 21 2016 05:29 GMT
#27
On August 02 2016 01:14 Dental Floss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2016 22:54 Harris1st wrote:
On August 01 2016 13:39 riotjune wrote:
The real question is how do we get new blood to play an oldass game with all the new stuff out there?


Money


I think that SC2 is proof that you can't "buy" an esport. You have to have a spontaneous/organic community interest, a game who's complexity supports long term development, and a proscene that is competitive, driven, and differentiated by skill.

edit; I mean, how do you get a kid to play Baseball? That game is old as heck! The answer is found in the community that supports it.


I get the basic idea that you're trying to convey, and I agree. Blizzard just kept throwing money at SC2 to make it an esport, but it really suffered in terms of gameplay. Hard to maintain a scene when you keep hemorrhaging players/fans who hate the gameplay.

In any case, what Brood War desperately needs is money. Had Blizzard supported Brood War even half as well as they did with SC2, there's a possibility BW might even be the more popular game already (I think it will become the more popular game as we move into the future).

Other than that, the Brood War community lacks a lot of foreign content. From what I've noticed in my extraordinarily short time in the BW community the past few weeks is that there is a pretty active community who love watching this game and reading articles/viewing content. Unfortunately, it seems like there just aren't a ton of English-speaking content creators out there. In other games, you have a plethora of people who do highlight reels, funny videos, editorials, streamers, etc. I would love to help there .
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lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4186 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-21 09:20:59
August 21 2016 09:17 GMT
#28
On August 21 2016 14:29 SC2John wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2016 01:14 Dental Floss wrote:
On August 01 2016 22:54 Harris1st wrote:
On August 01 2016 13:39 riotjune wrote:
The real question is how do we get new blood to play an oldass game with all the new stuff out there?


Money


I think that SC2 is proof that you can't "buy" an esport. You have to have a spontaneous/organic community interest, a game who's complexity supports long term development, and a proscene that is competitive, driven, and differentiated by skill.

edit; I mean, how do you get a kid to play Baseball? That game is old as heck! The answer is found in the community that supports it.

There are plenty of games that have been able to "buy" an esport. Your game is limited to its own popularity though.

I get the basic idea that you're trying to convey, and I agree. Blizzard just kept throwing money at SC2 to make it an esport, but it really suffered in terms of gameplay. Hard to maintain a scene when you keep hemorrhaging players/fans who hate the gameplay.

In any case, what Brood War desperately needs is money. Had Blizzard supported Brood War even half as well as they did with SC2, there's a possibility BW might even be the more popular game already (I think it will become the more popular game as we move into the future).

Other than that, the Brood War community lacks a lot of foreign content. From what I've noticed in my extraordinarily short time in the BW community the past few weeks is that there is a pretty active community who love watching this game and reading articles/viewing content. Unfortunately, it seems like there just aren't a ton of English-speaking content creators out there. In other games, you have a plethora of people who do highlight reels, funny videos, editorials, streamers, etc. I would love to help there .


I get why you would think BW is going to get more popular, but outside of Korea? That doesn't seem realistic at all. I think a lot of people enjoy watching it and reading, and discussing Brood War, but it doesn't seem there's actually many people playing the game in the West. And thats why there's no content creation, the Western playerbase doesn't seem to be there.

I think the ideas above for crowdfunding are kinda silly, but if Blizzard really wants to earn points, they should help get Starcraft on OGN. I assume they already write checks to OGN for HOTS and Hearthstone, what's one more? As much as as we talk about the resurgence of Brood War, there's still tons of problems with getting sponsors for tournaments.
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