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WCS 2016 - Fears and Concerns

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feardragon
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States973 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-28 21:43:32
December 28 2015 21:06 GMT
#1
The details of WCS 2016 were announced a little while ago and I've had some more time to mull things over and talk/listen to other players/organizers/etc about it. I'll start by saying that everyone has their investments in the scene that bias them. My bias is being very heavily invested and involved in the North American scene, particularly in up & coming talent. I am also a very small community tournament organizer so I will directly see a lot of impacts from the recent changes. I think it's always good to put these biases out before-hand so people can judge what you're saying appropriately and call you out on your bias when needed. With that being said, let's talk about WCS 2016.

Surface Level
At a basic level, it seems like there's going to be two different environments. The foreign scene and the Korean scene. The rules seem to allow foreigners with citizenship to a foreign country to participate in both by staying in Korea but participating in the qualifiers for foreign events, while Koreans would supposedly be locked down to Korea if they do not jump through some hurdles. The old WCS challenger/premier league system is gone and instead Blizzard will back tournaments run by big organizers like Dreamhack and ESL in their stead, paying for flight accommodations for players that qualify.

My first thought when I saw the list of organizers was, this may end up being a really terrible system for North America. How so? The listed organizers are only Dreamhack and ESL. Dreamhack is awesome and releases their full schedule for events for the whole year way in advance. According to this schedule, the only North American Dreamhack event listed is in Austin, Texas. That's one event. Supposedly, the rest of the events would all be run by ESL then right?

What about Redbull! A very good question. Redbull had been running events, even in 2015, albeit events that were often times focused on Archon mode. So why aren't they a part of the list of organizers. Did Blizzard not reach out to them? This is something that's perplexing me given one of the major e-sports program managers at Redbull was completely oblivious to the new WCS system before it was announced.

Now remember that Apollo and other sources have mentioned that organizers like ESL have been talking with Blizzard and helping them shape the current WCS system for a while. So if Red Bull was totally out of the loop with Blizzard(and with a former Blizzard employee, what the heck is going on? Does Red Bull not have an interest in WCS 2016 or did Blizzard really not think to reach out to one of the biggest potential tournament organizers for Starcraft right now?

Concern number 1: Why is Red Bull not involved with the WCS 2016 system?

Let's move beyond Redbull. ESL has not released their full event schedule as far as I'm aware. So surely they will do the remaining events. My fear here is that historically a majority of the events ESL has done have been in Europe. ESL has done IEM Toronto(twice if you include WCS season 2 finals), IEM New York(thrice although the last one was in 2013) and IEM San Jose(once because the removed Starcraft from the lineup for it in 2015). I hope I'm wrong about this but...

Concern number 2: We will see a very limited number of NA events in 2016.

But that shouldn't matter right? Blizzard is paying for the flights of players who qualify! Technically yes, a few players will have their flights paid for. But with Polt, Violet, Hyda, and maybe Jaedong all still able to compete in WCS as non-residents, the number of available spots suddenly grows pretty thin. Remember that with no WCS, these qualifiers are effectively the life blood for any aspiring NA player to actually play in an event. What's worse is that the few remaining spots will likely be dominated by the same old NA names we've seen like Neeb, puCK, Huk, Scarlett, Major, etc. Rising talent does have an opportunity to break through and qualify, but it's a very slim margin. Comparatively, the old WCS system of 2015 was far better for rising talent to make a name for themselves. With this kind of system, how can a player not already at the top honestly justify spending more time trying to make it as a full time Starcraft pro? It's not just that there's so little money in it. The money that's there is so top heavy that up & coming talent has to somehow go from next to nobody to beating the top players in their region to even get a small piece of the pie. The importance of having more big events IN NA is because the open Bracket provides a larger opportunity for players to make a name for themselves and get that offline tournament experience, even if they don't make it all the way to the top.

Concern number 3: A reduction in opportunities for up & coming talent.

At least Koreans playing in the WCS circuit will be forced to play on the NA server right? Well, the 100 wins a month restriction is very...easily achieved. For these Koreans, 100 wins a month will be child's play as they spend a vast majority of their time playing on the Korean server. Not only that but it will be a short lived incentive. North Americans themselves have a hard time justifying playing on NA because there's very little incentive to do so. Knowing that some koreans will play on it for just 100 wins a month, for likely only one part of the month, is not enough to accomplish anything. As much of a self plug as this will be, the concept for a tournament series I do called Ladder Heroes was made to create a consistent incentive on a weekly basis. The reason why I included weekly incentives and points qualifying toward a monthly finals in the system is so that there would be competition on the ladder every week, not for 6 hours a month. Totalbiscuit himself has said ladder qualifications toward a monthly tournament would be the ideal system, albeit with a lot more money than I have to throw around.

As a side note because I've been told by people to seek Ladder Heroes to be sponsored by Blizzard as a regional cup:
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So I mentioned Ladder Heroes as something that could work, but probably doesn't have enough money in it right now to do enough. Well what about Blizzard's regional cup sponsorships they mentioned! See if Blizzard will sponsor the event! I have submitted a proposal to Blizzard to see if I could get Ladder Heroes sponsored for a much larger prize pool(and possibly create an EU version), but I haven't heard anything as of yet. Maybe they will get back to me and they've been busy with the holidays but with how slowly Blizzard seems to move on things I'm uncertain if I would even be able to settle on something with them and implement a new "sponsored event" system anytime soon. I'm of course going to keep trying for it but until I hear back, I think it's safe to assume I won't.


Concern 4: The "NA Koreans" will continue to dominate NA players and contribute little to their growth.

A lot of these concerns revolve around the NA scene because this is what I'm most experienced and familiar with. I think enough people are aware of the huge damage the new system will have to the Korean scene given the recent wave of retirement announcements we've heard. I think this new system will actually be great for Europe since the region still has a lot of smaller events to participate in and is a fairly competitive region. But will this help North America at all? What about South America? SEA?

Looking forward

I got involved in the up & coming scene for Starcraft because I feel that it's the hidden lifeblood of the scene. One of the big overlooked factors in creating a sustainable scene. Build up the foundation and work your way up. There are things that I'm looking forward to in WCS 2016 but I have a lot of deep concerns about how things will shape up in the long term. Suffice to say, I'm hoping I'm wrong about assuming ESL won't do many NA events and that Blizzard will be pouring a hell of a lot of support into lots of regional cups. There are so many unanswered questions and at the end of the day, all we can really do is wait, speculate, and hope for the best.

Here's to hoping.

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nerpderp
Profile Joined February 2013
United States780 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-28 21:28:33
December 28 2015 21:25 GMT
#2
I completely agree. I think the only region that really benefits from the new WCS changes is EU, since Dreamhack and ESL are located there, and EU players can play in them whether or not they qualify. For NA players, the new system will be worse than 2015. In 2015, you had 3 WCS seasons, and 16 spots in challenger each season. That's how players like Zeal and Astrea (and even Hitman) were able to make a name for themselves.

This season, you might have 11 Circuit events (and never mind that these are repurposed events, not entirely new events), but if each event awards 2 paid trips and 6 citizenship-based ladder qualifiers, you're not going to have nearly as much representation as you did last year. Which means that aside from the NA Koreans, you're still going to only have puCK, Major, Scarlett, HuK winning in those qualifiers.

The way to improve the NA scene is to have more NA lan events that players without travel assistance can easily attend, or to financially incentivize the NA ladder the way TotalBiscuit suggested. I hope that Blizzard gets back to you about NA Ladder Heroes. If they believe in supporting the local scene (and the biggest viewer market by far), they need to support Ladder Heroes.
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CrystaX
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany32 Posts
December 29 2015 00:56 GMT
#3
That's not just an issue for aspiring players in NA. In europe it's entirely impossible to get those 3-4 spots that are paid for an event as there are 30 Pros to go trough first. The entire system is just shit for growing any talent.
EleMenTfiNi
Profile Joined January 2015
Canada107 Posts
December 29 2015 01:02 GMT
#4
I still believe an online circuit with larger prize pools as well as an abundance of smaller ones combined with these lan events would be the best scenario. An online NA/EU circuit would eliminate a lot of the costs that lan events bring. It would be less exciting, but all players would be able to compete and it would offer a route for up and coming talent to make a name for themselves.
Don't complain about things you're not willing to change.
nerpderp
Profile Joined February 2013
United States780 Posts
December 29 2015 01:25 GMT
#5
On December 29 2015 09:56 CrystaX wrote:
That's not just an issue for aspiring players in NA. In europe it's entirely impossible to get those 3-4 spots that are paid for an event as there are 30 Pros to go trough first. The entire system is just shit for growing any talent.


Yes, but at least there are events that happen in Europe, so players can go even if they don't have expenses paid for by the organizer. In NA there are almost no tournaments, and players can't spend thousands of dollars for travel and accommodation to Dreamhack or IEM.
"It's not that I have A.D.D., it's just that oh look a bunny rabbit!"
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
December 29 2015 05:09 GMT
#6
The WCS system is (or seems) open to more than just DH/IEM. Hopefully we'll see RB get in on this too.

WCS has never been about providing everyone with a "proving grounds". Local scenes need to do a bit of their own work too...

Players were previously paying their own expenses... now there's a bigger prize pool and a few players get paid flights. Perhaps not quite as good overall as last year's WCS but better than pre-WCS days with support for big tournaments that had started to drop SC2.


feanaro
Profile Joined March 2014
United States123 Posts
December 29 2015 05:43 GMT
#7
Lets hope Redbull is still committed to some form of starcraft, even if it isn't WCS. When Blizzard said they were going to focus more on the foreign scene I was really hoping NA would get some Copa America style tournaments to use as their qualifiers, as that would give not just the big money for qualifying for WCS but also some exposure and hopefully a bit of prize money for the ones who almost qualify.

Thanks for all the work you do for the scene Feardragon, I hope you can keep it up.
Instagramxjj
Profile Joined October 2015
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Last Edited: 2015-12-29 12:23:37
December 29 2015 07:50 GMT
#8


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Chaggi
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1936 Posts
December 29 2015 17:39 GMT
#9
My biggest concern is #4. I grew up watching the Korean scene, and played most of my games on Korea so I'm admittedly very biased towards Koreans.

My entire issue with WCS is that it really doesn't seem like a good system to grow talent, but also to close the gap between Koreans. I think at the end of the day, that's going to drive viewership. There hasn't been that much evidence from what I've seen when tier 2 players play each other, and the vast majority of foreigners are tier 2 or lower. What's really driven viewership is good players vs good players, especially if there are foreigners involved. It's absolutely massive hype.

But how is region locking, banning Koreans from weekend tournaments going to help close the gap? It's not. It's going to be the same old faces we've seen, collecting their bigger paychecks and getting rolled over at Blizzcon.
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8306 Posts
January 13 2016 23:37 GMT
#10
That's a very good point about Redbull. I hope we get an update on what's going on with them.

I miss the days of NASL, IPL, and MLG.

I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
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