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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16692 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-21 02:57:34
June 21 2015 02:55 GMT
#41
would 1960s Cassius Clay/Muhammed Ali be considered rap ?



"last week i murdered a rock... injured a stone... hospitalized a brick...
i'm so mean i make medicine sick."
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-21 03:08:00
June 21 2015 03:06 GMT
#42
On June 21 2015 10:59 ninazerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2015 01:57 Skynx wrote:
[image loading]


First of all, I'd like say happy birthday, from America to Turkey
Before this thread goes dry like jerky, I wanna say it's really starting to irk me
We have a fusion of delusional musing over music and confusing acute accusing
Like it's a huge thing, when we should be defusing instead of arguing over who's losing
This is an argument over the internet where too many minds choose to intersect
Like let's see who can win the bet: who can go longer before they screw their intellect?
Now the OP is like 'Woe is me', 'Rap is only retards attempting poetry'
When you know that shit is fully loaded dissing a whole genre openly
You say you like trance, while I like rap, so let's dance with verbosity
Let's slam on our keyboards and see who comes out with most potent cogency
Nah, let's skip that and talk facts, cut the fat, and if you wanna talk trash, cut the crap
Let's get our asses down to brass tacks before we decide to fuck with rap
You say only five percent of electro is good or something of the sorts
I'd say the same; ninety-five percent of rappers are straight-up just dorks
Talking about driving a porsche full of models into fucking five-star resorts
Cuz some whack album went diamond and a dope album went quartz
That's why Skrillex is wearing a Rolex and Iggy is wearing a Schwartz
It's like letting the worst players on the team be up first to play sports
Some people like visceral sound that just connects; love it, like it explicitly
Some people like scriptural sound that is complex; some like the simplicity
Now trance isn't my cup of tea, but I'd never say 'fuck you' to electronic sound
With the avant-garde layers and bass that makes the tectonics pound
But come on, learn to appreciate hip-hop music and give it affection
I hope you can do so upon more research and further reflection
cuz it's just culture; just another form of human expression
You can see it too if you just readjust your sense of perception


Skynx summoned ninazerg from Turkey.
It's super effective!
Please send me a PM of any song you like that I most probably never heard of! I am looking for people to chat about writing and producing music | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noD-bsOcxuU |
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-21 03:37:00
June 21 2015 03:22 GMT
#43
On June 21 2015 08:41 brickrd wrote:

well it's pretty much been covered, but yeah, the debate over whether there's such a thing as objectively good music is completely pointless and asinine. even if you deftly and successfully manage to define a bunch of things you think are components of good/important/noble music (technical skill, complexity, etc.) at the end of your pompous bullshit you're still just saying "your enjoyment is worth less than mine because i'm thinking harder during mine" which, you know, makes you seem like an asshole who's trying to make people feel bad. also the mental gymnastics about "objectivity" in entertainment are lodged so firmly in your butthole that i can smell what you ate by reading your pos

(wall of text)

edit: also the dude trying to defend rap using eminem is making me fucking cringe lol. how long are people going to keep screaming about how lyrically/verbally proficient eminem is before they realize that they're just clinging out of nostalgia to shock horseshit they liked when they were 12? regardless of any debate about his lyrical chops his music and image and personality are so totally godawful and unredeemable


Haha haha haha

This is a thread about rap. This is not a ladies talk show about anybody's personality and image. Lyrical chops are exactly what we're interested in.

BTW you have just discredited yourself big time by writing a wall of fancy text only to show your true bigoted colours In the last paragraph.

Hilarious. The delusion is strong in this one.

I'm sure people who still enjoy Beethoven are clinging to nostalgia too right?

And I only understood Eminem a few years ago after relistening to mmlp. When I was 12 I didn't understand anything.

Also, I'm not sure about him but please keep your nose away from my butt hole
Please send me a PM of any song you like that I most probably never heard of! I am looking for people to chat about writing and producing music | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noD-bsOcxuU |
Qwyn
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2779 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-21 04:11:43
June 21 2015 04:04 GMT
#44
Uhm, my appreciation for Eminem and the MM LP only developed years AFTER I was a 12 year old kid bopping those tunes on the radio. It wasn't until I started really listening to the flow that I began to appreciate rap. I was indoctrinated into thinking much the same as you, that all rap is - is a bunch of black dudes spitting terrible rhymes about big booty bitches, cocaine, weed...we been mixin' these things since the 80s, yo (popped into my mind).

Seriously, if you're looking for laid back chill flows, give a listen to Mick Jenkins. Best rapper in the underground right now by a large margin. Listened to The Water[s] at least a hundred times and his flow still doesn't bore me. And his new single promises a sick new direction for his first album.

Rap is a form of expression. Its lens is primarily cultural. It's a beautiful thing. But it is heavily industrialized. And like any industry, it has formulas and stereotypes that develop over time and are nigh impossible to break. Because they become apart of the CULTURE of rap. But as a genre it has so much more to offer. And it can be anything. Anything! Go searching and I know you'll find rap that you can appreciate.

Since you seem so intent on criticizing the message of mainstream rap artists, then I encourage you to search for a rapper whose message you can appreciate. And as for the stereotypes of mainstream rap, (many different mainstreams as well, just as with any other genre) understand that they are apart of the culture. And appreciate them as that. Understand the evolution and how these things came to be over time. Look for the roots. And don't take it so seriously!

Remember that every rapper is different. Different message. Different flow. Different stylings, backtracks, vocalization, different USE of the stereotypes that exist as apart of the culture of this artform. And remember that yes, just as with any other genre of music, there are "overrated" rappers. Just how this shit goes.
"Think of the hysteria following the realization that they consciously consume babies and raise the dead people from their graves" - N0
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16692 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-21 04:11:05
June 21 2015 04:04 GMT
#45
i'd say Cassius Clay's rap resurrected the sport of boxing in the 1960s...
and took it too heights in the 1970s it has not seen since.

of course leading intellectual luminaries such as Curt Hennig, Bobby Duncum Jr, Barry Windham and Kendall Windham all think "Rap is Crap".

so what do i know ?

Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
June 21 2015 04:38 GMT
#46
On June 21 2015 12:22 JieXian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2015 08:41 brickrd wrote:

well it's pretty much been covered, but yeah, the debate over whether there's such a thing as objectively good music is completely pointless and asinine. even if you deftly and successfully manage to define a bunch of things you think are components of good/important/noble music (technical skill, complexity, etc.) at the end of your pompous bullshit you're still just saying "your enjoyment is worth less than mine because i'm thinking harder during mine" which, you know, makes you seem like an asshole who's trying to make people feel bad. also the mental gymnastics about "objectivity" in entertainment are lodged so firmly in your butthole that i can smell what you ate by reading your pos

(wall of text)

edit: also the dude trying to defend rap using eminem is making me fucking cringe lol. how long are people going to keep screaming about how lyrically/verbally proficient eminem is before they realize that they're just clinging out of nostalgia to shock horseshit they liked when they were 12? regardless of any debate about his lyrical chops his music and image and personality are so totally godawful and unredeemable


Haha haha haha

This is a thread about rap. This is not a ladies talk show about anybody's personality and image. Lyrical chops are exactly what we're interested in.

BTW you have just discredited yourself big time by writing a wall of fancy text only to show your true bigoted colours In the last paragraph.

Hilarious. The delusion is strong in this one.

I'm sure people who still enjoy Beethoven are clinging to nostalgia too right?

And I only understood Eminem a few years ago after relistening to mmlp. When I was 12 I didn't understand anything.

Also, I'm not sure about him but please keep your nose away from my butt hole
um, lol, ok? you sure are angry that i think eminem is a piece of shit. i didn't realize that you were the curator of what can be discussed in this thread, nor that eminem's personality was irrelevant to his musical career. because it's not like his entire gimmick and the majority of his fame were based on his personality, right? it's not like he literally repeatedly made songs about his image and his persona to capitalize on it... but hey it's cute that someone who deifies eminem and compares him to beethoven also tries to insult me by comparing me to women and making vaguely homo-paranoid puns about your anus. who would have seen that coming?!

i'm not sure what "credit" you think i was looking for here as i'm a dude posting an opinion on a starcraft website, not a scholar or debate nerd. also before taking about delusion i would probably consider that you just called me a "bigot" as part of your defense... of fucking eminem... lol. not to mention that i didn't say anything that fits any definition of bigotry

difference between me and op is that i don't claim my opinion is more than an opinion. you can think i'm an idiot all you want i don't really care and i don't have some BS logic about how musical theory says i'm better than you
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AxiomBlurr
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
786 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-21 05:20:18
June 21 2015 05:09 GMT
#47
On June 20 2015 20:13 helpman177 wrote:
In German there is actually a distinction between E-Musik (serious) and U-Musik (popular).

So you are comparing two pairs of shoes.

Obviously playing in a synfonic orchestra requires more practise and skill than producing electronic music.

But that's not what you are comparing anyway, you are comparing rap music to other popular music like house.


Now, you can make the argument that melodies allow for more complexity than rhythm alone.

However, in Hip Hop you have the rhythm + the rhyming and in good Hip Hop you will additionally have complex melodies and breaks.


Just to give you an idea, Aesop Rock uses 7,392 unique words in his first 35,000 lyrics and has a wider vocabulary than Shakespeare.

http://experiments.undercurrent.com

And if you think producing good rhymes is so easy, I suggest you watch this video.







The only person in that catergory of music that has actually put his mental ability to the test is Chino XL. And thus he is the only artist in that catergory of music to belong to MENSA INT. Mensa

Example: Wordsmith

This is not saying much though...just saying it takes intellect to create good rhymes...and it takes an exceptionally high intellect to create amazing meaningful rhymes~~

JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16692 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-21 05:19:25
June 21 2015 05:18 GMT
#48
"i can drown a drink of water and kill a dead tree... dont mess with Muhammad Ali"
"tell all of the people out there who betting on Sonny that all of 'em are gonna lose their money"

Cassius Clay/Muhammad Ali was a marketing genius.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
AxiomBlurr
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
786 Posts
June 21 2015 05:29 GMT
#49
On June 21 2015 14:18 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
"i can drown a drink of water and kill a dead tree... dont mess with Muhammad Ali"
"tell all of the people out there who betting on Sonny that all of 'em are gonna lose their money"

Cassius Clay/Muhammad Ali was a marketing genius.



No one can argue with that~ and no one can argue that Ali in his prime is the highest level of skill that pugilism has ever attained.
eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
June 21 2015 05:40 GMT
#50
agreed I can only listen to real hiphop like hopsin or immortal technique's song dance with the devil it gives me chill every time I listen to it but man what a degenerate message the genre as a whole tends to contain always talking about bitches and drugs get a wholesome non-drug focused accessible message like a rock band or psytrance or something goodness

retards attempting poetry gottem
electro = erudite learned elite crafted talented russian oligarchs
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
June 21 2015 05:48 GMT
#51
On June 21 2015 14:40 eieio wrote:
agreed I can only listen to real hiphop like hopsin or immortal technique's song dance with the devil it gives me chill every time I listen to it but man what a degenerate message the genre as a whole tends to contain always talking about bitches and drugs get a wholesome non-drug focused accessible message like a rock band or psytrance or something goodness

retards attempting poetry gottem
electro = erudite learned elite crafted talented russian oligarchs

...non-drug focused
...psytrance
...ok
I mean the 'wholesome' word had me thinking you were being tongue-in-cheek but come on, don't be so obvious.
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Surth
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Germany456 Posts
June 21 2015 05:50 GMT
#52
On June 21 2015 13:04 Qwyn wrote:
I was indoctrinated into thinking much the same as you, that all rap is - is a bunch of black dudes


Thank god eminem saved us from *that*!



Bookwyrm:

i believe your actions dishonour Starcraft 2 LotV cybersport!
eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-21 05:59:06
June 21 2015 05:58 GMT
#53
On June 21 2015 14:48 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2015 14:40 eieio wrote:
agreed I can only listen to real hiphop like hopsin or immortal technique's song dance with the devil it gives me chill every time I listen to it but man what a degenerate message the genre as a whole tends to contain always talking about bitches and drugs get a wholesome non-drug focused accessible message like a rock band or psytrance or something goodness

retards attempting poetry gottem
electro = erudite learned elite crafted talented russian oligarchs

...non-drug focused
...psytrance
...ok
I mean the 'wholesome' word had me thinking you were being tongue-in-cheek but come on, don't be so obvious.

just citing an adequately complex genre that the OP enjoys ("I pretty much only listen to electro (psytrance, some house, basically the 5% good stuff before the genre went mainstream), classical and metal with a few sparse songs from other genres."). If you aren't classically trained or at least have the ability to read sheet music it probably went over your head it's hard to appreciate the complexity of my post without some formal training (similar to how I couldn't play BW until my second year of jazz band)
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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23206 Posts
June 21 2015 06:56 GMT
#54
People who don't know much of anything about Rap/Hip-hop (OP for example) don't even understand half the shit they hear anyway. Besides it being in what's almost a foreign language to many people, it's full of historical references and nuance that flies right past even some more informed heads.

People may think of Pun as fitting the common stereotype but his lyrics and flow were/are on another level.



Plus



At first I was angry at the OP but now I'm thankful for getting me to listen to some hotness.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-21 07:55:47
June 21 2015 07:37 GMT
#55
On June 21 2015 13:38 brickrd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2015 12:22 JieXian wrote:
On June 21 2015 08:41 brickrd wrote:

well it's pretty much been covered, but yeah, the debate over whether there's such a thing as objectively good music is completely pointless and asinine. even if you deftly and successfully manage to define a bunch of things you think are components of good/important/noble music (technical skill, complexity, etc.) at the end of your pompous bullshit you're still just saying "your enjoyment is worth less than mine because i'm thinking harder during mine" which, you know, makes you seem like an asshole who's trying to make people feel bad. also the mental gymnastics about "objectivity" in entertainment are lodged so firmly in your butthole that i can smell what you ate by reading your pos

(wall of text)

edit: also the dude trying to defend rap using eminem is making me fucking cringe lol. how long are people going to keep screaming about how lyrically/verbally proficient eminem is before they realize that they're just clinging out of nostalgia to shock horseshit they liked when they were 12? regardless of any debate about his lyrical chops his music and image and personality are so totally godawful and unredeemable


Haha haha haha

This is a thread about rap. This is not a ladies talk show about anybody's personality and image. Lyrical chops are exactly what we're interested in.

BTW you have just discredited yourself big time by writing a wall of fancy text only to show your true bigoted colours In the last paragraph.

Hilarious. The delusion is strong in this one.

I'm sure people who still enjoy Beethoven are clinging to nostalgia too right?

And I only understood Eminem a few years ago after relistening to mmlp. When I was 12 I didn't understand anything.

Also, I'm not sure about him but please keep your nose away from my butt hole
um, lol, ok? you sure are angry that i think eminem is a piece of shit. i didn't realize that you were the curator of what can be discussed in this thread, nor that eminem's personality was irrelevant to his musical career. because it's not like his entire gimmick and the majority of his fame were based on his personality, right? it's not like he literally repeatedly made songs about his image and his persona to capitalize on it... but hey it's cute that someone who deifies eminem and compares him to beethoven also tries to insult me by comparing me to women and making vaguely homo-paranoid puns about your anus. who would have seen that coming?!

i'm not sure what "credit" you think i was looking for here as i'm a dude posting an opinion on a starcraft website, not a scholar or debate nerd. also before taking about delusion i would probably consider that you just called me a "bigot" as part of your defense... of fucking eminem... lol. not to mention that i didn't say anything that fits any definition of bigotry

difference between me and op is that i don't claim my opinion is more than an opinion. you can think i'm an idiot all you want i don't really care and i don't have some BS logic about how musical theory says i'm better than you


Hahaha I found you hilarious and delusional and you keep delivering. I guess I'll have to educate you since you are lost.

On June 21 2015 08:41 brickrd wrote: they're just clinging out of nostalgia to shock horseshit they liked when they were 12?

Nobody was comparing Eminem to Beethoven. It was to refute your nostalgia point. You can replace Beethoven with Jimi Hendrix, John Coltrane or the Beatles.

Of course. Everyone was talking about music and you come in talking about somebody's personality like it's the Daily Mail.

On June 21 2015 08:41 brickrd wrote:also the mental gymnastics about "objectivity" in entertainment are lodged so firmly in your butthole that i can smell what you ate

The anus thing was yours.

Nobody was defending Eminem. I was pointing out how ridiculous you were. A defense for Eminem would be like " his lyrics are vulgar but it is art because of he rhymes very well" or something like that.

Your reading comprehension is terrible. And your memory is too.

Bigot: a person who is intolerant toward those holding different opinions.

You are completely lost. Your post was full of vulgarities - in comparison I had not once said anything negative to the OP although I disagreed with his attitude.

You made a long post about objectivity only to bash an artist later and you're completely unaware of your hypocrisy as shown above. That's why you're delusional.

Please just relax and you'll be able to think more clearly.

Also, OP is a more respectable person than you (and many others) give him credit for:
On June 20 2015 18:51 EngrishTeacher wrote:
Awesome, rant into genuine discovery. Will try to give the suggestions in this thread a good listen.

Please send me a PM of any song you like that I most probably never heard of! I am looking for people to chat about writing and producing music | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noD-bsOcxuU |
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16692 Posts
June 21 2015 15:34 GMT
#56
On June 21 2015 16:37 JieXian wrote:
Nobody was comparing Eminem to Beethoven. It was to refute your nostalgia point. You can replace Beethoven with Jimi Hendrix, John Coltrane or the Beatles.

i was comparing Eminem to Beethoven.
don't speak for me.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
June 21 2015 15:55 GMT
#57
I find it hard to compare Eminem's best stuff to most of the rap that becomes popular these days. Even I find "Lose yourself" to be excellent and I hate most things because I'm old and jaded.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
helpman177
Profile Blog Joined June 2015
56 Posts
June 21 2015 16:25 GMT
#58
Yeah most of the underground scene of the 90s has vanished unfortunately.
But there is still some good stuff out there.
Aside from To Pimp a Butterfly, these albums were pretty awesome from 2015:





bookwyrm
Profile Joined March 2014
United States722 Posts
June 21 2015 17:15 GMT
#59
On June 21 2015 14:50 Surth wrote:
Bookwyrm:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hG08anKTA8A


Oh yeah thats my jams
si hortum in bibliotheca habes, deerit nihil
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 21 2015 17:16 GMT
#60
On June 21 2015 10:59 ninazerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2015 01:57 Skynx wrote:
[image loading]


First of all, I'd like say happy birthday, from America to Turkey
Before this thread goes dry like jerky, I wanna say it's really starting to irk me
We have a fusion of delusional musing over music and confusing acute accusing
Like it's a huge thing, when we should be defusing instead of arguing over who's losing
This is an argument over the internet where too many minds choose to intersect
Like let's see who can win the bet: who can go longer before they screw their intellect?
Now the OP is like 'Woe is me', 'Rap is only retards attempting poetry'
When you know that shit is fully loaded dissing a whole genre openly
You say you like trance, while I like rap, so let's dance with verbosity
Let's slam on our keyboards and see who comes out with most potent cogency
Nah, let's skip that and talk facts, cut the fat, and if you wanna talk trash, cut the crap
Let's get our asses down to brass tacks before we decide to fuck with rap
You say only five percent of electro is good or something of the sorts
I'd say the same; ninety-five percent of rappers are straight-up just dorks
Talking about driving a porsche full of models into fucking five-star resorts
Cuz some whack album went diamond and a dope album went quartz
That's why Skrillex is wearing a Rolex and Iggy is wearing a Schwartz
It's like letting the worst players on the team be up first to play sports
Some people like visceral sound that just connects; love it, like it explicitly
Some people like scriptural sound that is complex; some like the simplicity
Now trance isn't my cup of tea, but I'd never say 'fuck you' to electronic sound
With the avant-garde layers and bass that makes the tectonics pound
But come on, learn to appreciate hip-hop music and give it affection
I hope you can do so upon more research and further reflection
cuz it's just culture; just another form of human expression
You can see it too if you just readjust your sense of perception

Worth the warning <3
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