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Cool Cat
Profile Joined June 2009
United States1644 Posts
February 24 2015 10:25 GMT
#41
I agree with you completely. I feel like most dota players, even many pros, don't fully grasp the concept of taking risks for your team to set up advantageous positions.
ChunderBoy
Profile Joined August 2011
3242 Posts
February 25 2015 06:00 GMT
#42
this is all too confusing for me
"mmr is a social construct" - tumblr
bananaboy378
Profile Joined June 2014
United Kingdom39 Posts
February 25 2015 12:51 GMT
#43
On February 24 2015 10:58 Buckyman wrote:
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This doesn't add up.

Wards should be placed near unsafe places to make them safer. Placing a ward 200 units from the carry is very likely too conservative.


And standing so close to a carry means you're not contesting rune, zoning offlaner, producing fear in other players because you're off the map, and you're stealing exp. One of the worst suggestions I've read.


Facepalm.

The advice was not to place a ward onto the position of the carry every 2 mins. Nor was it to share his XP. It was to stay close to a carry, playing ultra conservative, making sure he has safe farm, because if you're going 0-10-4 say, there are going to be some fat tempo controllers raging around the map. At worst, you are early warning, at best you are stopping the gank happening. Sorry for not making my thoughts explicit.
don_kyuhote
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
3007 Posts
February 25 2015 16:28 GMT
#44
Mah mang Laertes,
If you are going to compare your dota style with Tal, then maybe playing a carry (or a semi-carry)with a dive-heavy style would be a better fit than a support who dies a lot.

Tal is probably my favorite Chess player as well, and even though the guy has a reputation for making "unsound sacrifices", don't take it as a license to just take a risk and see what happens. The dude was ridiculously good at calculating and had a killer attacking instinct.

You say you want to be different, but are you doing something different just to be different? Or are you doing something different because it is good?
Because being different just to be different is a worthless pursuit.
In the end, what is good almost always becomes the norm.
To truly create something unique and valid requires an extremely high level of understanding that probably only a few people in the world possess.
So I would suggest that you just stick to playing basic, principled dota, and work from the ground up.
For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?
Deleted User 97295
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1137 Posts
February 26 2015 12:43 GMT
#45
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SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
February 27 2015 23:33 GMT
#46
just curious, have you ever watched an actual 5k+ support player from the first person perspective?
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Yergidy
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2107 Posts
February 28 2015 18:17 GMT
#47
On February 24 2015 07:20 WolfintheSheep wrote:
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On February 24 2015 06:36 ahswtini wrote:
On February 23 2015 21:47 Vaelone wrote:
I'm pretty sure 0-11-3 and 1.4k hero damage in a winning match with your team having 41 kills and you playing a ranged nuker deserves something far greater than Maelk award.

I might have to watch this replay once I get home to witness your risky ancient stacking and what not.

Don't let anyone put you down though, these blogs are always amusing and you're queueing on US east so I'm safe from this.

So painfully obvious when you bought the account though.

ye the huge amount of won games, then suddenly all lost games HMM

http://www.dotabuff.com/players/193113856/trends?date=&hero=&skill_bracket=&lobby_type=&game_mode=&region=&faction=&metric=kda

Gee, I wonder when he bought the account.

LMAO. Never has a graph been more telling.
One bright day in the middle of the night, Two dead boys got up to fight; Back to back they faced each other, Drew their swords and shot each other.
DV G
Profile Joined September 2012
Argentina2339 Posts
May 28 2015 17:49 GMT
#48
November 24th, Never forget.


Also how can you manage to go 5-33 and 2-23 in a week, like, I'd uninstall and get some beer.
Go pro or die trying
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22212 Posts
May 29 2015 08:11 GMT
#49
doesnt matter, he's recruiting 4.5k players for his team yo
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
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