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Taking Risk in Dota 2

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Deleted User 97295
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1137 Posts
February 22 2015 23:34 GMT
#1
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rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
February 23 2015 01:16 GMT
#2
best blogger on LD
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Deleted User 97295
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1137 Posts
February 23 2015 01:43 GMT
#3
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Slithe
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States985 Posts
February 23 2015 02:09 GMT
#4
What is the chess player's name?
Deleted User 97295
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1137 Posts
February 23 2015 02:43 GMT
#5
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FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-23 02:56:18
February 23 2015 02:54 GMT
#6
why are you into dota and not chess now? how hard is chess to follow? how would one go about enjoying spectating chess or learning about the greatness of it? you describe this guy as a meteor so how would a non-chess player be able to wonder at this? would we have to learn chess to a high degree?
Cool BW Music Vid - youtube.com/watch?v=W54nlqJ-Nx8 ~~~~~ ᕤ OYSTERS ᕤ CLAMS ᕤ AND ᕤ CUCKOLDS ᕤ ~~~~~~ ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ PUNCH HIM ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ
Deleted User 97295
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1137 Posts
February 23 2015 03:23 GMT
#7
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Myrddraal
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia937 Posts
February 23 2015 04:59 GMT
#8
I enjoy taking risks in Dota too, it's why I usually don't like playing hard carries, because I have to force myself to abandon fights early a lot of the time, or else likely feed and make the game much more difficult to win. Then comes late game when you are powerful yet you have to be even more careful, because if you feed then you might just lose the game or have to spend even more gold on buyback.

I love the feeling when you are having a good game on heroes like Centaur or Timbersaw, as you can make risky plays jumping into the whole enemy team doing as much damage as you can while your team comes to clean up and sometimes surviving through it all.

[stranded]: http://www.indiedb.com/games/stranded
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-23 09:10:13
February 23 2015 08:28 GMT
#9
lol feeding is not acceptable as a support either, have fun rationalising your feeding as necessary calculated risk. most people say "space created" as a joke, it seems you truly believe it.

were you also aggressively taking risks in this game where you go 4-FORTYONE-10?

i mean, in almost all of your games, you are dying at least 10 times, which is my arbitrary limit on acceptable number of deaths in a game. pros don't need to die so much to be effective and i have no doubt they take risks too.
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Vaelone
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Finland4400 Posts
February 23 2015 12:47 GMT
#10
I'm pretty sure 0-11-3 and 1.4k hero damage in a winning match with your team having 41 kills and you playing a ranged nuker deserves something far greater than Maelk award.

I might have to watch this replay once I get home to witness your risky ancient stacking and what not.

Don't let anyone put you down though, these blogs are always amusing and you're queueing on US east so I'm safe from this.

So painfully obvious when you bought the account though.
Animzor
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden2154 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-23 13:22:00
February 23 2015 13:00 GMT
#11
lol this is some funny shit

"Unsung hero" ahahhaha
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
February 23 2015 13:49 GMT
#12
Replay isn't available. I have a tendency to die a lot as a support. I think you'll find if you watch replays a lot of the deaths are avoidable: you can accomplish the same thing without dying. It's what bumped me 400mmr. to ~4k. Then I started trying to carry lol.
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-23 14:04:26
February 23 2015 13:56 GMT
#13
yeah don't let anyone put you down

to put it in perspective my last 4 LOSING games with my core i went

18-10
21-6
22-7
18-8
(one of those i went 17-0) (and of course a lot of the deaths are potentially from fucking around at endgame when its already over)

and each of those i was able to blame myself entirely for the loss of the game (when other members of my team are 4-13, 3-11, 6-13, 2-14 and so on) because i know (sometimes by watching replay) exactly how i could have done things differently

because of this, i don't quite agree with the sentiment of risk-taking. looking at my replays from a tactical (mechanical decision-making) or strategic point of view , i can pretty clearly see when a play is either a) stupid or b) not stupid. but this is on a core and not on a support

if you watch a high level player play on low level games you can more clearly see their decision-making that sets them apart
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macmann
Profile Joined May 2011
87 Posts
February 23 2015 14:26 GMT
#14
Your team won in spite of you, not because of you OP.
This patting yourself on the back is pretty next level.
xAdra
Profile Joined July 2012
Singapore1858 Posts
February 23 2015 15:32 GMT
#15
Is it some sort of unwritten rule that we are supposed to laugh at this OP? I don't get it, sure the KotL thing was a feed but we could take it as satire at worst instead of being outright offensive here
Vaelone
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Finland4400 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-23 16:11:06
February 23 2015 16:06 GMT
#16
On February 24 2015 00:32 xAdra wrote:
Is it some sort of unwritten rule that we are supposed to laugh at this OP? I don't get it, sure the KotL thing was a feed but we could take it as satire at worst instead of being outright offensive here


I just have a bone to pick with people that buy accounts few thousand MMR above their skill level and then ruin doto for the poor souls that get matched up with them.

He doesn't seem mean spirited or anything though, maybe just a little bit delusional.

Oh and the blog wasn't even half bad other than trying to make feeding into a clever and creative playstyle.
bananaboy378
Profile Joined June 2014
United Kingdom39 Posts
February 23 2015 16:13 GMT
#17
A few feeds are good. However, anything more than x/x/6 is getting danger zone. After that, change your playstyle in the game, you're gunna lose if you keep feed. at x/x/10, demote yourself to ward bitch, and don't go more than 200 units from a carry.
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-23 16:22:21
February 23 2015 16:19 GMT
#18
i think the main thing to take away from this is that dota is highly multi-faceted and that you can be solid in some aspects of gameplay but still have a lot to learn about other aspects that you don't even know about yet (but can learn from watching other players, coaching or reviewing replays)

like you might be awesome at your supporting, risk taking or space making stuff but shit in teamfights or at laning or something else without realising it
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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32740 Posts
February 23 2015 17:25 GMT
#19
There is a difference between taking risks and >Space created versus outright feeding and having little game impact beyond a few assists or kills. Taking a look at your account a 43.81% WLR isn't too impressive and the sheer amount of deaths you have versus the assists isn't exactly a great sign. Granted, KDA isn't the best metric of skill but the consistency tells me you aren't the one making the big plays for your carries or creating space but rather, they are the ones carrying your mistakes. I'm around the 2.4-2.5k MMR, nothing impressive and about as average to mediocre as it gets and when I play with 5-4k MMR players from Liquid Dota I fully acknowledge it isn't my support plays that are helping the team win, it is their superior skill which carries me and doesn't lead me to dying a whole lot. I usually get ancient and jungle stacks yet I don't go 0-15-4 or 3-13-7, neither of which requires immense risks as long as you aren't doing it right in front of your enemies.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3576 Posts
February 23 2015 18:22 GMT
#20
On February 23 2015 10:43 Laertes wrote:
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On February 23 2015 10:16 rabidch wrote:
best blogger on LD


Why's that? I seem to get this train of people who literally laugh at my blogs. I find this incredibly rude and maybe I should starting reporting people for their rudeness. Show some respect man.

your literally a retard


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