• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 13:51
CEST 19:51
KST 02:51
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Code S RO12 Preview: GuMiho, Bunny, SHIN, ByuN3The Memories We Share - Facing the Final(?) GSL40Code S RO12 Preview: Cure, Zoun, Solar, Creator4[ASL19] Finals Preview: Daunting Task30[ASL19] Ro4 Recap : The Peak15
Community News
Weekly Cups (May 27-June 1): ByuN goes back-to-back0EWC 2025 Regional Qualifier Results15Code S RO12 Results + RO8 Groups (2025 Season 2)3Weekly Cups (May 19-25): Hindsight is 20/20?0DreamHack Dallas 2025 - Official Replay Pack8
StarCraft 2
General
The SCII GOAT: A statistical Evaluation EWC 2025 Regional Qualifier Results The Memories We Share - Facing the Final(?) GSL Is there a place to provide feedback for maps? Code S RO12 Results + RO8 Groups (2025 Season 2)
Tourneys
SOOPer7s Showmatches 2025 Weekly Cups (May 27-June 1): ByuN goes back-to-back EWC 2025 Regional Qualifiers (May 28-June 1) WardiTV Mondays RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series
Strategy
[G] Darkgrid Layout Simple Questions Simple Answers [G] PvT Cheese: 13 Gate Proxy Robo
Custom Maps
[UMS] Zillion Zerglings
External Content
Mutation # 476 Charnel House Mutation # 475 Hard Target Mutation # 474 Futile Resistance Mutation # 473 Cold is the Void
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion Will foreigners ever be able to challenge Koreans? BGH auto balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Battle.net is not working Which player typ excels at which race or match up?
Tourneys
[ASL19] Grand Finals [BSL20] RO20 Group Stage [BSL20] RO20 Group D - Sunday 20:00 CET [BSL 2v2] ProLeague Season 3 - Friday 21:00 CET
Strategy
[G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player I am doing this better than progamers do.
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile Mechabellum Monster Hunter Wilds Nintendo Switch Thread Beyond All Reason
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
LiquidLegends to reintegrate into TL.net
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread TL Mafia Plays: Diplomacy TL Mafia: Generative Agents Showdown Survivor II: The Amazon
Community
General
European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
Maru Fan Club Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2025 Football Thread NHL Playoffs 2024 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Cleaning My Mechanical Keyboard How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL.net Ten Commandments
Blogs
Research study on team perfo…
TrAiDoS
I was completely wrong ab…
jameswatts
Need Your Help/Advice
Glider
Trip to the Zoo
micronesia
Poker
Nebuchad
Info SLEgma_12
SLEgma_12
SECOND COMMING
XenOsky
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 14651 users

Making a proper sequel to BW

Blogs > JieXian
Post a Reply
1 2 3 Next All
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-10 06:28:59
January 26 2015 09:19 GMT
#1
Hi everyone!

If I had a wish, I'd wish I were in charge of making a proper sequel to the best game in the world -- SC:BW!

My name is Justine Chowder. You could say that I'm a casual gamer because my iccup rank is E or some times D- (usually don't bother with ladders) and I play Terran. I like Terran a lot, because I'm human after all. (sometimes I play Protoss for fun!). I hate zergs because well I hate insects and zerg look like icky insects. Insects disgust me.

So, I would make a few fixes for the sequel to SC:BW, because the game really isn't balanced at the casual levels. I don't care what the pros say, they are too elitist. If they cannot accept it I'll just ask them to fuck off and don't play my game. They can play Brood War instead if they like it soooo much.

I want to make a game that is friendly and fun for everyone and not just the pros, because games are supposed to be fun for everyone, and not some serious competitive sport for a select few.

As such, Terran needs a LOT of buffs. People worse than me beat me all the time just because they abuse imbalances, many a few TL posters agree with me about the PvT imbalance and how much more skill bio requires. Take a look at the lurker, lurkers can be any where on the map and I cannot move out until I have vessels (which take ages) and 2 lurkers can theoretically kill an infinite number of marines.

1 Lurkers has got to be removed. If zergs cry too much and revolt I’ll make it available at tier 3 when vessels can be obtained and I’ll have tanks anyway.
And I’ll only make it available after several expansions of course.

2 Wraiths need to be stronger - they die too easily... I mean what's the point of cloaking if IMBA overlords come with detection for free and zerg have a ton of it flying around? Compare it to the Terran alternative: the science vessel – costs an arm and a leg in money and time. Hence to make things fair, overlords should be less imba by needing detection to be upgraded, which would improve the utility of wraiths.

3 Vultures are too weak in battle. It's only use is to plant mines, but who has the time to plant 100 mines and neglect other parts of the game besides the pros? This is not a casual gamer friendly unit, and its single target concussive damage should be buffed with a splash instead, in exchange for not being able to plant mines.

4 Mutas are too strong and it's so unfair that they can kill turrets so easily. I mean they are ANTI AIR DEFENSE for a reason. Turrets need to be buffed and be able to have upgrades to make them stronger.

5 Muta stacking is a joke.

6 Marines are so weak late game and they die so easily ... They need some health and armour upgrades to maintain their usefulness in the late game while being balanced early game.
I have to be fair and not make the game boring and imbalanced for Terran after all.

7 Bunkers are a waste of money after I've defended the early rushes from the opponent. Since photon cannons and sunkens don't require parking units inside them, it's only fair that I get my money back from my bunkers whenever I want to do so.

8 DTs are an imba joke like lurkers. I won't even feel happy winning with them. They also need to be moved to Tier 3

9 My friend Yannick suggested something brilliant: it is only fair that that medics and dropships can be combined into one unit, because overlords double as supply depots after all...

10 My friend Nina and I have always complained about her problems with the pesky zergs as a Protoss player. She is also a casual gamer and she likes Protoss. Her games were always decided on whether she hits or misses storms, which is really hard to do with all fragility, low speed of the HTs, the insane amount of APM needed and the lag (pros play on LAN of course!). Only the pros can do that amazing reaver micro, and needing to control 2 units as one is bullshit. I need a protoss unit that can splash and do terrible terrible damage to those slimy insects while being able to escape up cliffs since they will be a targeted by the zergs.

11 A similar unit that can run up cliffs is useful for Terran too... hate those sunken lines...

12 Dark Swarm is another joke.

13 I quite like the idea of having a lurker for Terran, but I not sure how to make it work - Maybe I'll add it in the expansion after figuring out how to disguise it properly, like a mine or something

14 I quite like the idea of destructible temples in BW. I wonder why they don't use it enough in BW, i mean I could think of SO MANY WAYS to use it!

Temples are a bit religious, and I have the brilliant idea of using rocks because that will take away the religious element so that casual gamers from all religions can congregate to my sequel of BW!

After all, I don't want to alienate any one from my sequel to Starcraft, do I?

15 The time needed to travel just to get to the opponent's base is way too long. Maps should be smaller to make the game more ACTION packed!

16 Carriers outranging the goliath's upgraded anti-air rockets just needs fixing.

Regards,

Justine Chowder

PS: if you're a BW elitist like endy (lol you're not even a pro) and you don't like the changes you can sod off and play your old game (which was great in its own way), as I said I'm trying to make a sequel, not a copy of BW.

****
Please send me a PM of any song you like that I most probably never heard of! I am looking for people to chat about writing and producing music | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noD-bsOcxuU |
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
January 26 2015 09:26 GMT
#2
People named *ustin **owder tend to make bad BW sequels sorry
ॐ
SnowFantasy
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
4173 Posts
January 26 2015 09:33 GMT
#3
lol
good troll post 5/5
GeckoXp
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Germany2016 Posts
January 26 2015 10:06 GMT
#4
DOWNLOAD THIS BLOG AS .PDF
Sero
Profile Joined October 2010
United States692 Posts
January 26 2015 10:34 GMT
#5
Those changes sound great. Can't wait to play it!
<3 FlaSh HiyA Stats HoeJJa
Boonbag
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France3318 Posts
January 26 2015 10:38 GMT
#6
are you blood related with dustin bowder ?
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
January 26 2015 11:24 GMT
#7
On January 26 2015 19:38 Boonbag wrote:
are you blood related with dustin bowder ?

no way they just have remarkably similar names
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-26 11:47:25
January 26 2015 11:40 GMT
#8
This is a gentle reminder that Justine Chowder has an appointment with

D.Kim M.D.
Deathball & Swarmhost Clinic and Surgery Pte. Ltd.

on the morrow.
Boob balance not guaranteed.

Regards
Robert A. Kotick
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50105 Posts
January 26 2015 12:24 GMT
#9
wat
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
January 26 2015 13:00 GMT
#10
I had this really cool idea for the new Protoss units. They should look like Harbingers from SupCom.
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
don_kyuhote
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
3006 Posts
January 26 2015 13:19 GMT
#11
On January 26 2015 19:38 Boonbag wrote:
are you blood related with dustin bowder ?

I austin doubter.
For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32740 Posts
January 26 2015 14:23 GMT
#12
First I was a little mad, then I read a little more and saw "Justine Chowder" and it all clicked. Why no rocks added to SC:BW2?
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-26 16:06:35
January 26 2015 15:50 GMT
#13
hahahahahahahahahahahha everyone

I actually should've written it when SC2 just came out, but then again posting it now might be better because the BW revival is EMMINENT haha

On January 26 2015 23:23 PhoenixVoid wrote:
First I was a little mad, then I read a little more and saw "Justine Chowder" and it all clicked. Why no rocks added to SC:BW2?


14 I quite like the idea of destructible temples in BW. I wonder why they don't use it enough in BW, i mean I could think of SO MANY WAYS to use it!


haha I made it a bit less direct

On January 26 2015 20:40 Probemicro wrote:
This is a gentle reminder that Justine Chowder has an appointment with

D.Kim M.D.
Deathball & Swarmhost Clinic and Surgery Pte. Ltd.

on the morrow.
Boob balance not guaranteed.

Regards
Robert A. Kotick


hahahahahahahaha made me laugh
Please send me a PM of any song you like that I most probably never heard of! I am looking for people to chat about writing and producing music | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noD-bsOcxuU |
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-26 15:53:30
January 26 2015 15:51 GMT
#14
double post
Please send me a PM of any song you like that I most probably never heard of! I am looking for people to chat about writing and producing music | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noD-bsOcxuU |
Endymion
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States3701 Posts
January 26 2015 16:27 GMT
#15
On January 26 2015 18:26 endy wrote:
People named *ustin **owder tend to make bad BW sequels sorry


i'm proud that i woke up to a message on skype saying they thought i had a really funny post on blogs, and then it was you instead of me. we are one <3
Have you considered the MMO-Champion forum? You are just as irrational and delusional with the right portion of nostalgic populism. By the way: The old Brood War was absolutely unplayable
Boonbag
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France3318 Posts
January 26 2015 17:39 GMT
#16
command & conquer iz a great franchise wtf u talking about
Whiplash
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States2928 Posts
January 26 2015 17:41 GMT
#17
Quality blog right here boys
Cinematographer / Steadicam Operator. Former Starcraft commentator/player
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
January 26 2015 18:52 GMT
#18
5/5 good laughs.
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
sabas123
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands3122 Posts
January 26 2015 18:53 GMT
#19
5/5
The harder it becomes, the more you should focus on the basics.
hymn
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Bulgaria832 Posts
January 26 2015 19:47 GMT
#20
I don't know... Whoever gave this diamond less than 5 stars should be hated with passion! It's so brilliant!
azk he is the north american player but the titan he is the french stars
1 2 3 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 6h 10m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 533
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 2965
Rain 2772
Bisu 844
BeSt 399
firebathero 314
Mini 249
hero 151
Soulkey 128
sSak 59
HiyA 36
[ Show more ]
ToSsGirL 35
zelot 28
Free 16
IntoTheRainbow 14
scan(afreeca) 13
Dota 2
Gorgc13736
Dendi2238
BabyKnight31
Counter-Strike
fl0m906
pashabiceps294
flusha238
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King87
Chillindude16
Other Games
singsing2253
hiko1379
Beastyqt692
ceh9612
Lowko426
ArmadaUGS159
TKL 137
Trikslyr94
KnowMe73
Has14
MindelVK13
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV49
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 19 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 116
• IndyKCrew
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• Migwel
• intothetv
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Kozan
StarCraft: Brood War
• blackmanpl 27
• FirePhoenix5
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 4654
• Ler108
League of Legends
• Jankos2419
• TFBlade1855
• Shiphtur523
Other Games
• imaqtpie1245
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
6h 10m
Replay Cast
16h 10m
PiGosaur Monday
1d 6h
Bellum Gens Elite
1d 18h
The PondCast
2 days
Bellum Gens Elite
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Bellum Gens Elite
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
CranKy Ducklings
4 days
[ Show More ]
SC Evo League
4 days
Bellum Gens Elite
4 days
Fire Grow Cup
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
SOOP
5 days
SHIN vs GuMiho
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
AllThingsProtoss
5 days
Fire Grow Cup
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-05-28
DreamHack Dallas 2025
Heroes 10 EU

Ongoing

JPL Season 2
BSL 2v2 Season 3
BSL Season 20
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 2
NPSL S3
Rose Open S1
CSL Season 17: Qualifier 1
2025 GSL S2
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25
ECL Season 49: Europe
BLAST Rivals Spring 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters
CCT Season 2 Global Finals
IEM Melbourne 2025
YaLLa Compass Qatar 2025
PGL Bucharest 2025
BLAST Open Spring 2025

Upcoming

CSL Season 17: Qualifier 2
CSL 17: 2025 SUMMER
Copa Latinoamericana 4
CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
CSLAN 2025
K-Championship
SEL Season 2 Championship
Esports World Cup 2025
HSC XXVII
Championship of Russia 2025
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2025
Murky Cup #2
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.