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Gowerly
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom916 Posts
December 15 2014 21:36 GMT
#21
On December 16 2014 04:45 demonym wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2014 04:42 Kupon3ss wrote:
there are some who would argue that if you have no idea wtf you're doing, advice is helpful


Yeah, advice that works is helpful... It's not that I don't want advice, I want good advice...

But chances are you're so clueless on the situation that you don't know what is good advice or not. Thus, all the advice is helpful.
Good judgement comes from experience.
Experience comes from bad judgement.
Thus, at the start, even the shit is helpful.
I will reduce you to a series of numbers.
demonym
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
Canada66 Posts
December 15 2014 21:53 GMT
#22
On December 16 2014 06:16 batsnacks wrote:
You shouldn't make make generalizations about large groups of people. That's called being biased.

And bias is, by definition, preconceived or unreasoned.

So you're a hypocrite.


Why shouldn't I generalize, why shouldn't I be biased. You shouldn't be so sure my biases are unreasoned.
I sat on a duck once, it went quack
ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
December 15 2014 22:21 GMT
#23
On December 16 2014 06:30 demonym wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2014 06:19 ninazerg wrote:
On December 16 2014 03:31 demonym wrote:

What matters is Why they believe that.

How about you just get straight to your point and reveal how you think I Should think about it.


I have some advice, which you may or may not choose to accept based on the fact that I am a person, and 'people suck'. Actually, this is less of advice and more of a rule: you don't randomly capitalize the initial character of a word in the middle of the sentence, like "Should". If you are doing this for emphasis, I would recommend learning how to use italics, or even using capitalization to indicate you are significantly RAISING your voice for added emphasis.

Also, congratulations on coming to the conclusion that you should not listen other peoples' opinions. This notion is so oddly simple as a concept that it makes me wonder why nobody, especially people on reality television, have thought of this. See, I knew this one girl who claimed she didn't care about anyone's opinions, but when offered a positive opinion concerning herself, she accepted it, giving credence to the possibility that she, despite her assertion of (and pardon my French) 'not giving a fuck about what anybody says about me', does, in fact, give a fuck.

In all probability, you were most likely recently given advice from someone that you followed and the situation you hoped would ameliorate upon the initiation of following this advice quickly deteriorated, leaving you dejected and ireful. At least, that what I imagine happened, but you could have very well just have been sitting around one day, sipping orange juice and playing some good ol' Donkey Kong 64 and in between collecting golden bananas, a thought popped into your head: "Hey wait a minute! Peoples' advice sucks!" and just had to get up and post it on your fancy computer-phone, cuz that's just latest craze with all the kids these days. However, do not despair! The advice given was a dying breath of human empathy, lost in a fast-paced, high-pressure modern world, one so out-of-sync with nature that our greatest ambitions are reduced to blurbs, and where we are robbed so dearly of our expression and hope that even tiniest bits of useful advice become shining beacons of hope for those deprived and starving for significance in an otherwise meaningless existence. And by some small measure of hope, they hope to pass on to you the same reassurance they felt when first hearing the advice they were someday destined to give, that even in some small way, it would help you.

But you bat it away carelessly! Their good intentions are dashed upon the rocks of your anger. They were like ants, offering up crumbs to huge god in the sky (you) who simply said "It is not enough! Why do you peons belittle my name with such blasphemy? Do you dare to insult my intelligence with such parsimonious offerings?" as the ants, from their tiny mound in the earth, hold the gifts higher and reply "Please, Lord, do not be angry with us, for our hearts and our brains are small, but this we give to you as a sign of our good will." and you reply with a can of Raid, saying, "Cursed be your kind, for what you have offered me is counted as trash."



hahaha, wtf?


That's it? That's all I get?
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
December 15 2014 22:23 GMT
#24
Haha, this is getting great.
Demonym, what exactly do you mean by a reasoned bias and how is such a having such a bias preferable to being unbiased?
demonym
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
Canada66 Posts
December 15 2014 22:24 GMT
#25
On December 16 2014 07:21 ninazerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2014 06:30 demonym wrote:
On December 16 2014 06:19 ninazerg wrote:
On December 16 2014 03:31 demonym wrote:

What matters is Why they believe that.

How about you just get straight to your point and reveal how you think I Should think about it.


I have some advice, which you may or may not choose to accept based on the fact that I am a person, and 'people suck'. Actually, this is less of advice and more of a rule: you don't randomly capitalize the initial character of a word in the middle of the sentence, like "Should". If you are doing this for emphasis, I would recommend learning how to use italics, or even using capitalization to indicate you are significantly RAISING your voice for added emphasis.

Also, congratulations on coming to the conclusion that you should not listen other peoples' opinions. This notion is so oddly simple as a concept that it makes me wonder why nobody, especially people on reality television, have thought of this. See, I knew this one girl who claimed she didn't care about anyone's opinions, but when offered a positive opinion concerning herself, she accepted it, giving credence to the possibility that she, despite her assertion of (and pardon my French) 'not giving a fuck about what anybody says about me', does, in fact, give a fuck.

In all probability, you were most likely recently given advice from someone that you followed and the situation you hoped would ameliorate upon the initiation of following this advice quickly deteriorated, leaving you dejected and ireful. At least, that what I imagine happened, but you could have very well just have been sitting around one day, sipping orange juice and playing some good ol' Donkey Kong 64 and in between collecting golden bananas, a thought popped into your head: "Hey wait a minute! Peoples' advice sucks!" and just had to get up and post it on your fancy computer-phone, cuz that's just latest craze with all the kids these days. However, do not despair! The advice given was a dying breath of human empathy, lost in a fast-paced, high-pressure modern world, one so out-of-sync with nature that our greatest ambitions are reduced to blurbs, and where we are robbed so dearly of our expression and hope that even tiniest bits of useful advice become shining beacons of hope for those deprived and starving for significance in an otherwise meaningless existence. And by some small measure of hope, they hope to pass on to you the same reassurance they felt when first hearing the advice they were someday destined to give, that even in some small way, it would help you.

But you bat it away carelessly! Their good intentions are dashed upon the rocks of your anger. They were like ants, offering up crumbs to huge god in the sky (you) who simply said "It is not enough! Why do you peons belittle my name with such blasphemy? Do you dare to insult my intelligence with such parsimonious offerings?" as the ants, from their tiny mound in the earth, hold the gifts higher and reply "Please, Lord, do not be angry with us, for our hearts and our brains are small, but this we give to you as a sign of our good will." and you reply with a can of Raid, saying, "Cursed be your kind, for what you have offered me is counted as trash."



hahaha, wtf?


That's it? That's all I get?


Sorry, it's just I don't know what to make of it, seems like you're just being silly, it's pretty entertaining though.
I sat on a duck once, it went quack
demonym
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
Canada66 Posts
December 15 2014 22:38 GMT
#26
On December 16 2014 07:23 Yorbon wrote:
Haha, this is getting great.
Demonym, what exactly do you mean by a reasoned bias and how is such a having such a bias preferable to being unbiased?


The thinking is more along the lines that being unbiased isn't even technically possible but rather that some forms of bias are better than others. You can actually see this sometimes when observing other people, like children that love dinosaurs that read about dinosaurs vs a kid who read it but doesn't even really like dinosaurs much.

often times you can adjust your bias if it's not favorable to your performance in something, like lets say you don't really like a match up like zvz, if you can look for a way in which it can be fun or something in particular you already like about it and expand on that rather than focusing on the parts you don't like or annoy you, you can change your bias towards the mu from being "zvz sucks" to "zvz is pretty fun actually". Not only will it make you more inclined to play it more often, but even directly in the moment of the experience you'll probably absorb more from it.
I sat on a duck once, it went quack
ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
December 15 2014 22:43 GMT
#27
On December 16 2014 07:24 demonym wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2014 07:21 ninazerg wrote:
On December 16 2014 06:30 demonym wrote:
On December 16 2014 06:19 ninazerg wrote:
On December 16 2014 03:31 demonym wrote:

What matters is Why they believe that.

How about you just get straight to your point and reveal how you think I Should think about it.


I have some advice, which you may or may not choose to accept based on the fact that I am a person, and 'people suck'. Actually, this is less of advice and more of a rule: you don't randomly capitalize the initial character of a word in the middle of the sentence, like "Should". If you are doing this for emphasis, I would recommend learning how to use italics, or even using capitalization to indicate you are significantly RAISING your voice for added emphasis.

Also, congratulations on coming to the conclusion that you should not listen other peoples' opinions. This notion is so oddly simple as a concept that it makes me wonder why nobody, especially people on reality television, have thought of this. See, I knew this one girl who claimed she didn't care about anyone's opinions, but when offered a positive opinion concerning herself, she accepted it, giving credence to the possibility that she, despite her assertion of (and pardon my French) 'not giving a fuck about what anybody says about me', does, in fact, give a fuck.

In all probability, you were most likely recently given advice from someone that you followed and the situation you hoped would ameliorate upon the initiation of following this advice quickly deteriorated, leaving you dejected and ireful. At least, that what I imagine happened, but you could have very well just have been sitting around one day, sipping orange juice and playing some good ol' Donkey Kong 64 and in between collecting golden bananas, a thought popped into your head: "Hey wait a minute! Peoples' advice sucks!" and just had to get up and post it on your fancy computer-phone, cuz that's just latest craze with all the kids these days. However, do not despair! The advice given was a dying breath of human empathy, lost in a fast-paced, high-pressure modern world, one so out-of-sync with nature that our greatest ambitions are reduced to blurbs, and where we are robbed so dearly of our expression and hope that even tiniest bits of useful advice become shining beacons of hope for those deprived and starving for significance in an otherwise meaningless existence. And by some small measure of hope, they hope to pass on to you the same reassurance they felt when first hearing the advice they were someday destined to give, that even in some small way, it would help you.

But you bat it away carelessly! Their good intentions are dashed upon the rocks of your anger. They were like ants, offering up crumbs to huge god in the sky (you) who simply said "It is not enough! Why do you peons belittle my name with such blasphemy? Do you dare to insult my intelligence with such parsimonious offerings?" as the ants, from their tiny mound in the earth, hold the gifts higher and reply "Please, Lord, do not be angry with us, for our hearts and our brains are small, but this we give to you as a sign of our good will." and you reply with a can of Raid, saying, "Cursed be your kind, for what you have offered me is counted as trash."



hahaha, wtf?


That's it? That's all I get?


Sorry, it's just I don't know what to make of it, seems like you're just being silly, it's pretty entertaining though.


But don't you find snippets of truth within humor?
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10700 Posts
December 15 2014 22:45 GMT
#28
On December 16 2014 06:19 ninazerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2014 03:31 demonym wrote:

What matters is Why they believe that.

How about you just get straight to your point and reveal how you think I Should think about it.


I have some advice, which you may or may not choose to accept based on the fact that I am a person, and 'people suck'. Actually, this is less of advice and more of a rule: you don't randomly capitalize the initial character of a word in the middle of the sentence, like "Should". If you are doing this for emphasis, I would recommend learning how to use italics, or even using capitalization to indicate you are significantly RAISING your voice for added emphasis.

Also, congratulations on coming to the conclusion that you should not listen other peoples' opinions. This notion is so oddly simple as a concept that it makes me wonder why nobody, especially people on reality television, have thought of this. See, I knew this one girl who claimed she didn't care about anyone's opinions, but when offered a positive opinion concerning herself, she accepted it, giving credence to the possibility that she, despite her assertion of (and pardon my French) 'not giving a fuck about what anybody says about me', does, in fact, give a fuck.

In all probability, you were most likely recently given advice from someone that you followed and the situation you hoped would ameliorate upon the initiation of following this advice quickly deteriorated, leaving you dejected and ireful. At least, that what I imagine happened, but you could have very well just have been sitting around one day, sipping orange juice and playing some good ol' Donkey Kong 64 and in between collecting golden bananas, a thought popped into your head: "Hey wait a minute! Peoples' advice sucks!" and just had to get up and post it on your fancy computer-phone, cuz that's just latest craze with all the kids these days. However, do not despair! The advice given was a dying breath of human empathy, lost in a fast-paced, high-pressure modern world, one so out-of-sync with nature that our greatest ambitions are reduced to blurbs, and where we are robbed so dearly of our expression and hope that even tiniest bits of useful advice become shining beacons of hope for those deprived and starving for significance in an otherwise meaningless existence. And by some small measure of hope, they hope to pass on to you the same reassurance they felt when first hearing the advice they were someday destined to give, that even in some small way, it would help you.

But you bat it away carelessly! Their good intentions are dashed upon the rocks of your anger. They were like ants, offering up crumbs to huge god in the sky (you) who simply said "It is not enough! Why do you peons belittle my name with such blasphemy? Do you dare to insult my intelligence with such parsimonious offerings?" as the ants, from their tiny mound in the earth, hold the gifts higher and reply "Please, Lord, do not be angry with us, for our hearts and our brains are small, but this we give to you as a sign of our good will." and you reply with a can of Raid, saying, "Cursed be your kind, for what you have offered me is counted as trash."



This is the best advice I think you could ask for.
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Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
December 15 2014 22:50 GMT
#29
On December 16 2014 07:38 demonym wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2014 07:23 Yorbon wrote:
Haha, this is getting great.
Demonym, what exactly do you mean by a reasoned bias and how is such a having such a bias preferable to being unbiased?


The thinking is more along the lines that being unbiased isn't even technically possible but rather that some forms of bias are better than others. You can actually see this sometimes when observing other people, like children that love dinosaurs that read about dinosaurs vs a kid who read it but doesn't even really like dinosaurs much.

often times you can adjust your bias if it's not favorable to your performance in something, like lets say you don't really like a match up like zvz, if you can look for a way in which it can be fun or something in particular you already like about it and expand on that rather than focusing on the parts you don't like or annoy you, you can change your bias towards the mu from being "zvz sucks" to "zvz is pretty fun actually". Not only will it make you more inclined to play it more often, but even directly in the moment of the experience you'll probably absorb more from it.

In the case of zvz, given that you are to play that match-up, seeing positive things in it is obviously preferable to thinking it sucks, especially when performing in zvz is to be optimized. I certainly agree. Imo, it would actually be the rational choice.
Now let's take a look at your situation. In the case of getting advice on life, given you run into it sooner or later, wouldn't it be beneficial for your performance in life to see the positive aspects of the advice people give you, instead of saying it sucks, or going even further, the people suck?
demonym
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
Canada66 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-15 23:05:34
December 15 2014 23:05 GMT
#30
On December 16 2014 07:43 ninazerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2014 07:24 demonym wrote:
On December 16 2014 07:21 ninazerg wrote:
On December 16 2014 06:30 demonym wrote:
On December 16 2014 06:19 ninazerg wrote:
On December 16 2014 03:31 demonym wrote:

What matters is Why they believe that.

How about you just get straight to your point and reveal how you think I Should think about it.


I have some advice, which you may or may not choose to accept based on the fact that I am a person, and 'people suck'. Actually, this is less of advice and more of a rule: you don't randomly capitalize the initial character of a word in the middle of the sentence, like "Should". If you are doing this for emphasis, I would recommend learning how to use italics, or even using capitalization to indicate you are significantly RAISING your voice for added emphasis.

Also, congratulations on coming to the conclusion that you should not listen other peoples' opinions. This notion is so oddly simple as a concept that it makes me wonder why nobody, especially people on reality television, have thought of this. See, I knew this one girl who claimed she didn't care about anyone's opinions, but when offered a positive opinion concerning herself, she accepted it, giving credence to the possibility that she, despite her assertion of (and pardon my French) 'not giving a fuck about what anybody says about me', does, in fact, give a fuck.

In all probability, you were most likely recently given advice from someone that you followed and the situation you hoped would ameliorate upon the initiation of following this advice quickly deteriorated, leaving you dejected and ireful. At least, that what I imagine happened, but you could have very well just have been sitting around one day, sipping orange juice and playing some good ol' Donkey Kong 64 and in between collecting golden bananas, a thought popped into your head: "Hey wait a minute! Peoples' advice sucks!" and just had to get up and post it on your fancy computer-phone, cuz that's just latest craze with all the kids these days. However, do not despair! The advice given was a dying breath of human empathy, lost in a fast-paced, high-pressure modern world, one so out-of-sync with nature that our greatest ambitions are reduced to blurbs, and where we are robbed so dearly of our expression and hope that even tiniest bits of useful advice become shining beacons of hope for those deprived and starving for significance in an otherwise meaningless existence. And by some small measure of hope, they hope to pass on to you the same reassurance they felt when first hearing the advice they were someday destined to give, that even in some small way, it would help you.

But you bat it away carelessly! Their good intentions are dashed upon the rocks of your anger. They were like ants, offering up crumbs to huge god in the sky (you) who simply said "It is not enough! Why do you peons belittle my name with such blasphemy? Do you dare to insult my intelligence with such parsimonious offerings?" as the ants, from their tiny mound in the earth, hold the gifts higher and reply "Please, Lord, do not be angry with us, for our hearts and our brains are small, but this we give to you as a sign of our good will." and you reply with a can of Raid, saying, "Cursed be your kind, for what you have offered me is counted as trash."



hahaha, wtf?


That's it? That's all I get?


Sorry, it's just I don't know what to make of it, seems like you're just being silly, it's pretty entertaining though.


But don't you find snippets of truth within humor?



Well I'll look it over again and see what I can find.

Well yeah, it'd be pretty bad if I just decided to ignore people before even hearing what it is they have to say, mostly what I was talking about was how I often always continue to listen to what people are saying even when I could tell it wasn't going to be worthwhile.

Something else you may not know is I often find praise quite painful, especially when it feels like it's not genuine praise.

The whole thing was just me complaining about advice being given to me that I didn't want or like and being annoyed that it's considered so rude to turn it down when it feels like they're being rude to me by pushing it on me from my pov.

Yeah, they often react in a way similar to what you describe here, that I'm just discarding them because I'm discarding what they're telling me. I guess it can feel that way if you're doing it with the intent of being nice but I can't just accept something and just be alright with it because someone is just trying to be nice. It comes off to me like if they really cared that they'd want to know if they're really helping me or not.
I sat on a duck once, it went quack
demonym
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
Canada66 Posts
December 15 2014 23:28 GMT
#31
On December 16 2014 07:50 Yorbon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2014 07:38 demonym wrote:
On December 16 2014 07:23 Yorbon wrote:
Haha, this is getting great.
Demonym, what exactly do you mean by a reasoned bias and how is such a having such a bias preferable to being unbiased?


The thinking is more along the lines that being unbiased isn't even technically possible but rather that some forms of bias are better than others. You can actually see this sometimes when observing other people, like children that love dinosaurs that read about dinosaurs vs a kid who read it but doesn't even really like dinosaurs much.

often times you can adjust your bias if it's not favorable to your performance in something, like lets say you don't really like a match up like zvz, if you can look for a way in which it can be fun or something in particular you already like about it and expand on that rather than focusing on the parts you don't like or annoy you, you can change your bias towards the mu from being "zvz sucks" to "zvz is pretty fun actually". Not only will it make you more inclined to play it more often, but even directly in the moment of the experience you'll probably absorb more from it.

In the case of zvz, given that you are to play that match-up, seeing positive things in it is obviously preferable to thinking it sucks, especially when performing in zvz is to be optimized. I certainly agree. Imo, it would actually be the rational choice.
Now let's take a look at your situation. In the case of getting advice on life, given you run into it sooner or later, wouldn't it be beneficial for your performance in life to see the positive aspects of the advice people give you, instead of saying it sucks, or going even further, the people suck?


(that's pretty cool, this is actually getting closer to good advice)
Well sure that'd be better, I actaully have that same idea too, I'm just not sure how to make it happen. I guess I just don't know where much of the positive things are in what they're telling me to build on, also I get a little bit carried away with the frustration, tho this venting right now seems to be helping with that.
I sat on a duck once, it went quack
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
December 16 2014 00:38 GMT
#32
On December 16 2014 08:05 demonym wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2014 07:43 ninazerg wrote:
On December 16 2014 07:24 demonym wrote:
On December 16 2014 07:21 ninazerg wrote:
On December 16 2014 06:30 demonym wrote:
On December 16 2014 06:19 ninazerg wrote:
On December 16 2014 03:31 demonym wrote:

What matters is Why they believe that.

How about you just get straight to your point and reveal how you think I Should think about it.


I have some advice, which you may or may not choose to accept based on the fact that I am a person, and 'people suck'. Actually, this is less of advice and more of a rule: you don't randomly capitalize the initial character of a word in the middle of the sentence, like "Should". If you are doing this for emphasis, I would recommend learning how to use italics, or even using capitalization to indicate you are significantly RAISING your voice for added emphasis.

Also, congratulations on coming to the conclusion that you should not listen other peoples' opinions. This notion is so oddly simple as a concept that it makes me wonder why nobody, especially people on reality television, have thought of this. See, I knew this one girl who claimed she didn't care about anyone's opinions, but when offered a positive opinion concerning herself, she accepted it, giving credence to the possibility that she, despite her assertion of (and pardon my French) 'not giving a fuck about what anybody says about me', does, in fact, give a fuck.

In all probability, you were most likely recently given advice from someone that you followed and the situation you hoped would ameliorate upon the initiation of following this advice quickly deteriorated, leaving you dejected and ireful. At least, that what I imagine happened, but you could have very well just have been sitting around one day, sipping orange juice and playing some good ol' Donkey Kong 64 and in between collecting golden bananas, a thought popped into your head: "Hey wait a minute! Peoples' advice sucks!" and just had to get up and post it on your fancy computer-phone, cuz that's just latest craze with all the kids these days. However, do not despair! The advice given was a dying breath of human empathy, lost in a fast-paced, high-pressure modern world, one so out-of-sync with nature that our greatest ambitions are reduced to blurbs, and where we are robbed so dearly of our expression and hope that even tiniest bits of useful advice become shining beacons of hope for those deprived and starving for significance in an otherwise meaningless existence. And by some small measure of hope, they hope to pass on to you the same reassurance they felt when first hearing the advice they were someday destined to give, that even in some small way, it would help you.

But you bat it away carelessly! Their good intentions are dashed upon the rocks of your anger. They were like ants, offering up crumbs to huge god in the sky (you) who simply said "It is not enough! Why do you peons belittle my name with such blasphemy? Do you dare to insult my intelligence with such parsimonious offerings?" as the ants, from their tiny mound in the earth, hold the gifts higher and reply "Please, Lord, do not be angry with us, for our hearts and our brains are small, but this we give to you as a sign of our good will." and you reply with a can of Raid, saying, "Cursed be your kind, for what you have offered me is counted as trash."



hahaha, wtf?


That's it? That's all I get?


Sorry, it's just I don't know what to make of it, seems like you're just being silly, it's pretty entertaining though.


But don't you find snippets of truth within humor?



Well I'll look it over again and see what I can find.

Well yeah, it'd be pretty bad if I just decided to ignore people before even hearing what it is they have to say, mostly what I was talking about was how I often always continue to listen to what people are saying even when I could tell it wasn't going to be worthwhile.

Something else you may not know is I often find praise quite painful, especially when it feels like it's not genuine praise.

The whole thing was just me complaining about advice being given to me that I didn't want or like and being annoyed that it's considered so rude to turn it down when it feels like they're being rude to me by pushing it on me from my pov.

Yeah, they often react in a way similar to what you describe here, that I'm just discarding them because I'm discarding what they're telling me. I guess it can feel that way if you're doing it with the intent of being nice but I can't just accept something and just be alright with it because someone is just trying to be nice. It comes off to me like if they really cared that they'd want to know if they're really helping me or not.

If these people are giving you advice, they may deem it necessary that you hear it because they have likely went through a similar experience and figured that the advice will help you out. You're free to ignore the advice, that's a given. After all, it's your right however listening to advice that isn't worthy is up to you. It's the social norm to continue listening imo. If you feel the advice isn't worth your time, you can probably find a way to cut the person off depending on what they are speaking about and just say "thanks but no thanks, I'm good" or "thanks but I think I can figure it out". That way, you acknowledge that you are grateful for what they said so far but don't want to hear more.

Well, of course. Praising someone who you feel doesn't deserve it or having someone praise you for something you didn't deserve doesn't feel great because you realize that you/they didn't earn the praise. In all honesty, I think this is a silly complaint. You can just as easily stop a conversation and thank someone instead of listening to them forcefully then complaining that it was a waste of time/didn't help you/wasn't wanted but that's my opinion

Also, nina, great post as always. Keep them coming! lol.
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Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
December 16 2014 03:44 GMT
#33
So either everyone's giving you bad advice or you're not a good judge of what is bad advice. Either everyone sucks or you're ignoring the one common denominator in all your interactions.
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vOdToasT
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Sweden2870 Posts
December 16 2014 05:04 GMT
#34
On December 16 2014 06:16 batsnacks wrote:
You shouldn't make make generalizations about large groups of people. That's called being biased.

And bias is, by definition, preconceived or unreasoned.

So you're a hypocrite.


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Basic
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada288 Posts
December 16 2014 05:23 GMT
#35
Being naive or easily persuaded is likely not a good thing; than again neither is arrogance and notions of excessive exceptionalism.

Learning to think critically and discern poor opinions founded on little to nothing versus a well structured and factually based set of ideas is a life long skill. (Or any advice stemming from either) Being generally dismissive is no better than being generally inclusive. Instead of coming to some broad conclusion about the usefulness of others opinions or ideas, you are better off deciding what merits a good opinion or set of ideas when you see them, and their opposites.

Regards,

Basic
nunez
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway4003 Posts
December 16 2014 05:37 GMT
#36
you don't have to sign your posts basic.

respectfully,
nunez.
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NeThZOR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa7387 Posts
December 16 2014 11:00 GMT
#37
On December 16 2014 06:30 demonym wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2014 06:19 ninazerg wrote:
On December 16 2014 03:31 demonym wrote:

What matters is Why they believe that.

How about you just get straight to your point and reveal how you think I Should think about it.


I have some advice, which you may or may not choose to accept based on the fact that I am a person, and 'people suck'. Actually, this is less of advice and more of a rule: you don't randomly capitalize the initial character of a word in the middle of the sentence, like "Should". If you are doing this for emphasis, I would recommend learning how to use italics, or even using capitalization to indicate you are significantly RAISING your voice for added emphasis.

Also, congratulations on coming to the conclusion that you should not listen other peoples' opinions. This notion is so oddly simple as a concept that it makes me wonder why nobody, especially people on reality television, have thought of this. See, I knew this one girl who claimed she didn't care about anyone's opinions, but when offered a positive opinion concerning herself, she accepted it, giving credence to the possibility that she, despite her assertion of (and pardon my French) 'not giving a fuck about what anybody says about me', does, in fact, give a fuck.

In all probability, you were most likely recently given advice from someone that you followed and the situation you hoped would ameliorate upon the initiation of following this advice quickly deteriorated, leaving you dejected and ireful. At least, that what I imagine happened, but you could have very well just have been sitting around one day, sipping orange juice and playing some good ol' Donkey Kong 64 and in between collecting golden bananas, a thought popped into your head: "Hey wait a minute! Peoples' advice sucks!" and just had to get up and post it on your fancy computer-phone, cuz that's just latest craze with all the kids these days. However, do not despair! The advice given was a dying breath of human empathy, lost in a fast-paced, high-pressure modern world, one so out-of-sync with nature that our greatest ambitions are reduced to blurbs, and where we are robbed so dearly of our expression and hope that even tiniest bits of useful advice become shining beacons of hope for those deprived and starving for significance in an otherwise meaningless existence. And by some small measure of hope, they hope to pass on to you the same reassurance they felt when first hearing the advice they were someday destined to give, that even in some small way, it would help you.

But you bat it away carelessly! Their good intentions are dashed upon the rocks of your anger. They were like ants, offering up crumbs to huge god in the sky (you) who simply said "It is not enough! Why do you peons belittle my name with such blasphemy? Do you dare to insult my intelligence with such parsimonious offerings?" as the ants, from their tiny mound in the earth, hold the gifts higher and reply "Please, Lord, do not be angry with us, for our hearts and our brains are small, but this we give to you as a sign of our good will." and you reply with a can of Raid, saying, "Cursed be your kind, for what you have offered me is counted as trash."



hahaha, wtf?

Not wtf, what ninazerg is saying is true.
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boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
December 16 2014 11:37 GMT
#38
On December 16 2014 04:35 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2014 04:03 QuanticHawk wrote:
Post count is the one true way to gauge the value of a person's opinion


I think posts per day counts more

Haha Templar would be staff if that'd be the case
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 16 2014 11:51 GMT
#39
On December 16 2014 14:37 nunez wrote:
you don't have to sign your posts basic.

respectfully,
nunez.

how else would we know it's him though?
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DeeL
Profile Joined December 2011
Switzerland38 Posts
December 16 2014 13:26 GMT
#40
On December 16 2014 06:19 ninazerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2014 03:31 demonym wrote:

What matters is Why they believe that.

How about you just get straight to your point and reveal how you think I Should think about it.


I have some advice, which you may or may not choose to accept based on the fact that I am a person, and 'people suck'. Actually, this is less of advice and more of a rule: you don't randomly capitalize the initial character of a word in the middle of the sentence, like "Should". If you are doing this for emphasis, I would recommend learning how to use italics, or even using capitalization to indicate you are significantly RAISING your voice for added emphasis.

Also, congratulations on coming to the conclusion that you should not listen other peoples' opinions. This notion is so oddly simple as a concept that it makes me wonder why nobody, especially people on reality television, have thought of this. See, I knew this one girl who claimed she didn't care about anyone's opinions, but when offered a positive opinion concerning herself, she accepted it, giving credence to the possibility that she, despite her assertion of (and pardon my French) 'not giving a fuck about what anybody says about me', does, in fact, give a fuck.

In all probability, you were most likely recently given advice from someone that you followed and the situation you hoped would ameliorate upon the initiation of following this advice quickly deteriorated, leaving you dejected and ireful. At least, that what I imagine happened, but you could have very well just have been sitting around one day, sipping orange juice and playing some good ol' Donkey Kong 64 and in between collecting golden bananas, a thought popped into your head: "Hey wait a minute! Peoples' advice sucks!" and just had to get up and post it on your fancy computer-phone, cuz that's just latest craze with all the kids these days. However, do not despair! The advice given was a dying breath of human empathy, lost in a fast-paced, high-pressure modern world, one so out-of-sync with nature that our greatest ambitions are reduced to blurbs, and where we are robbed so dearly of our expression and hope that even tiniest bits of useful advice become shining beacons of hope for those deprived and starving for significance in an otherwise meaningless existence. And by some small measure of hope, they hope to pass on to you the same reassurance they felt when first hearing the advice they were someday destined to give, that even in some small way, it would help you.

But you bat it away carelessly! Their good intentions are dashed upon the rocks of your anger. They were like ants, offering up crumbs to huge god in the sky (you) who simply said "It is not enough! Why do you peons belittle my name with such blasphemy? Do you dare to insult my intelligence with such parsimonious offerings?" as the ants, from their tiny mound in the earth, hold the gifts higher and reply "Please, Lord, do not be angry with us, for our hearts and our brains are small, but this we give to you as a sign of our good will." and you reply with a can of Raid, saying, "Cursed be your kind, for what you have offered me is counted as trash."


Wow. Woooooooow. Can one rent you to write such texts on a regular basis? This is fucking awesome.
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