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Everyone demands so much respect for their opinions even when all they're doing is just repeating back some tired advice they read somewhere else, and worst of all it's advice that doesn't work - advice that doesn't even make sense!
It's pretty sad as well because of how it can be seen that it doesn't even work for them as well. It wouldn't bother me as much if I could just ignore it, but when that's all that's given, when that's all that seems to be there... People endlessly parroting back and forth things they just heard somewhere else without any of themselves in it...
In one sense they can be forgiven (although not entirely) because they're likely so incompetent at coming up with anything of their own that of course they'll end up relying on bullshit they found somewhere else.
Evidence is given of that in how they don't seem to even notice how off what they're repeating back is. Again, this wouldn't be so bad in of itself, but since this is a problem even with the audience looking in as well it ends up feeling very restrictive. I could tell them off or attempt to even just point it out, but if it's at odds with the audience of people around, they'll often just jump in or take part. They'll do it in exactly the same way as well.
In a way I'm setting myself up exactly for this to happen but at least it's more direct towards the problem. I can't just try to accept it by pretending it's something other than what it is, but perhaps I can be alright with this if I stop caring as much about it. Perhaps it's alright if people just react that way and I shouldn't make too much of it and just be able to let it happen.
Perhaps I'm better off not pretending to respect stupid opinions.
Let's see how this goes...
 
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United States15275 Posts
And yet while you say this, you are thinking "this applies to everyone but me".
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On December 16 2014 02:44 CosmicSpiral wrote:
And yet while you say this, you are thinking "this applies to everyone but me".
Yes, I'm comparing the opinions of others to my own, and deeming my opions are of higher quality. The idea that something could apply to pretty much everyone else and not me is not incorrect in of itself. At that point you might as well just argue the majority is always correct.
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United States15275 Posts
On December 16 2014 02:49 demonym wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2014 02:44 CosmicSpiral wrote:
And yet while you say this, you are thinking "this applies to everyone but me". Yes, I'm comparing the opinions of others to my own, and deeming my opions are of higher quality. The idea that something could apply to pretty much everyone else and not me is not incorrect in of itself. At that point you might as well just argue the majority is always correct.
How quaint. It's not like most people believe the exact same thing, but I'm sure you're a special exception.
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On December 16 2014 03:18 CosmicSpiral wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2014 02:49 demonym wrote:On December 16 2014 02:44 CosmicSpiral wrote:
And yet while you say this, you are thinking "this applies to everyone but me". Yes, I'm comparing the opinions of others to my own, and deeming my opions are of higher quality. The idea that something could apply to pretty much everyone else and not me is not incorrect in of itself. At that point you might as well just argue the majority is always correct. How quaint. It's not like most people believe the exact same thing, but I'm sure you're a special exception.
What matters is Why they believe that. If you sit back and never reveal it just because you could be wrong or some person could find some flaw in it, you leave yourself vulnerable to having very stunted ideas, they can't develop or grow. So yes, I believe my ideas tend to be better than those around me, and so does pretty much everyone else, but what's the point in hiding that or pretending like I don't think that? Also, yes, I am a special exception, I actually have confidence in my opinions, and the confidence to look at where they may be wrong as well.
How about you just get straight to your point and reveal how you think I Should think about it.
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On December 16 2014 03:18 CosmicSpiral wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2014 02:49 demonym wrote:On December 16 2014 02:44 CosmicSpiral wrote:
And yet while you say this, you are thinking "this applies to everyone but me". Yes, I'm comparing the opinions of others to my own, and deeming my opions are of higher quality. The idea that something could apply to pretty much everyone else and not me is not incorrect in of itself. At that point you might as well just argue the majority is always correct. How quaint. It's not like most people believe the exact same thing, but I'm sure you're a special exception.
You are assuming that he is wrong. But some people simply are right. Simply better than others. We don't know whether this person is or isn't.
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Post count is the one true way to gauge the value of a person's opinion
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On December 16 2014 03:54 vOdToasT wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2014 03:18 CosmicSpiral wrote:On December 16 2014 02:49 demonym wrote:On December 16 2014 02:44 CosmicSpiral wrote:
And yet while you say this, you are thinking "this applies to everyone but me". Yes, I'm comparing the opinions of others to my own, and deeming my opions are of higher quality. The idea that something could apply to pretty much everyone else and not me is not incorrect in of itself. At that point you might as well just argue the majority is always correct. How quaint. It's not like most people believe the exact same thing, but I'm sure you're a special exception. You are assuming that he is wrong. But some people simply are right. Simply better than others. We don't know whether this person is or isn't.
Wow, cool, you understand my angle.
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The obvious question is why are people even coming to you with advice if you're not asking for it
If you just improved yourself to a point where that stops happening, then you'll be fine
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On December 16 2014 04:03 QuanticHawk wrote:
Post count is the one true way to gauge the value of a person's opinion
I think posts per day counts more 
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On December 16 2014 04:15 Kupon3ss wrote:
The obvious question is why are people even coming to you with advice if you're not asking for it
If you just improved yourself to a point where that stops happening, then you'll be fine
People often can come to me with advice when they can see that I'm not happy, that part in of itself doesn't bother me. They probably do this because in some ways I really am quite unhappy but the reasons why they think that's the case are often so wrong.. So off that it gets pretty frustrating, and it's even worse when it shows an awful view of how they think about me. Even that in of itself wouldn't be that bad but the even bigger problem is it's hard to stop them or correct them, to some extent that can show they care but in another way it leaves me feeling like they don't really care enough to really try to understand me or even really listen to me.
When you get right down to it I'm just lonely, I don't have enough people to talk to that I can relate to in a way that leaves me feeling I'm understood. I'm not really sure how I can "transcend" this other than just solving the problem, in a way that's what I'm trying to do right now by posting this. Considering I don't really know very clearly what I'm looking for though, or how to successfully do this I'm probably doing it in a very rough and hap-hazrd way.
So yeah, I agree, if I just improved myself the problems wouldn't be, but I can't just snap my fingers and be there, it's a process. (a process where I have no idea wtf I'm doing)
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there are some who would argue that if you have no idea wtf you're doing, advice is helpful
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On December 16 2014 04:42 Kupon3ss wrote:
there are some who would argue that if you have no idea wtf you're doing, advice is helpful
Yeah, advice that works is helpful... It's not that I don't want advice, I want good advice...
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This might be a bit elitist, but well, the general public isn't that bright. Most of them are really easily swayed to vote (for example) by extremely simple and petty reasons. Or groups of them have become so hopelessly biased that reason doesn't work on them anymore - everything is twisted to support a pre-conveived worldview.
I wouldn't be surprised if the advice of other people was annoying or useless. For what its worth I would try my best to accept that most of the advice is going to be wrongheaded, and simply learn to ignore it because there's nothing else you can do about it. I think that's what most broadcasters learn as well, and partially why moderators are so important in chat (though I still love twitch chat in all its chaos ).
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On December 16 2014 05:36 radscorpion9 wrote:This might be a bit elitist, but well, the general public isn't that bright. Most of them are really easily swayed to vote (for example) by extremely simple and petty reasons. Or groups of them have become so hopelessly biased that reason doesn't work on them anymore - everything is twisted to support a pre-conveived worldview. I wouldn't be surprised if the advice of other people was annoying or useless. For what its worth I would try my best to accept that most of the advice is going to be wrongheaded, and simply learn to ignore it because there's nothing else you can do about it. I think that's what most broadcasters learn as well, and partially why moderators are so important in chat (though I still love twitch chat in all its chaos ).
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What post from your 'help' blog annoyed you?
Maybe Betty Swan has a solution.
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your Country52798 Posts
I guess you are hanging out with the wrong people if you think that all of their advice sucks.
I agree with others that post count is a good gauge here
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You shouldn't make make generalizations about large groups of people. That's called being biased.
And bias is, by definition, preconceived or unreasoned.
So you're a hypocrite.
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On December 16 2014 03:31 demonym wrote:
What matters is Why they believe that.
How about you just get straight to your point and reveal how you think I Should think about it.
I have some advice, which you may or may not choose to accept based on the fact that I am a person, and 'people suck'. Actually, this is less of advice and more of a rule: you don't randomly capitalize the initial character of a word in the middle of the sentence, like "Should". If you are doing this for emphasis, I would recommend learning how to use italics, or even using capitalization to indicate you are significantly RAISING your voice for added emphasis.
Also, congratulations on coming to the conclusion that you should not listen other peoples' opinions. This notion is so oddly simple as a concept that it makes me wonder why nobody, especially people on reality television, have thought of this. See, I knew this one girl who claimed she didn't care about anyone's opinions, but when offered a positive opinion concerning herself, she accepted it, giving credence to the possibility that she, despite her assertion of (and pardon my French) 'not giving a fuck about what anybody says about me', does, in fact, give a fuck.
In all probability, you were most likely recently given advice from someone that you followed and the situation you hoped would ameliorate upon the initiation of following this advice quickly deteriorated, leaving you dejected and ireful. At least, that what I imagine happened, but you could have very well just have been sitting around one day, sipping orange juice and playing some good ol' Donkey Kong 64 and in between collecting golden bananas, a thought popped into your head: "Hey wait a minute! Peoples' advice sucks!" and just had to get up and post it on your fancy computer-phone, cuz that's just latest craze with all the kids these days. However, do not despair! The advice given was a dying breath of human empathy, lost in a fast-paced, high-pressure modern world, one so out-of-sync with nature that our greatest ambitions are reduced to blurbs, and where we are robbed so dearly of our expression and hope that even tiniest bits of useful advice become shining beacons of hope for those deprived and starving for significance in an otherwise meaningless existence. And by some small measure of hope, they hope to pass on to you the same reassurance they felt when first hearing the advice they were someday destined to give, that even in some small way, it would help you.
But you bat it away carelessly! Their good intentions are dashed upon the rocks of your anger. They were like ants, offering up crumbs to huge god in the sky (you) who simply said "It is not enough! Why do you peons belittle my name with such blasphemy? Do you dare to insult my intelligence with such parsimonious offerings?" as the ants, from their tiny mound in the earth, hold the gifts higher and reply "Please, Lord, do not be angry with us, for our hearts and our brains are small, but this we give to you as a sign of our good will." and you reply with a can of Raid, saying, "Cursed be your kind, for what you have offered me is counted as trash."
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On December 16 2014 06:19 ninazerg wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2014 03:31 demonym wrote:
What matters is Why they believe that.
How about you just get straight to your point and reveal how you think I Should think about it. I have some advice, which you may or may not choose to accept based on the fact that I am a person, and 'people suck'. Actually, this is less of advice and more of a rule: you don't randomly capitalize the initial character of a word in the middle of the sentence, like "Should". If you are doing this for emphasis, I would recommend learning how to use italics, or even using capitalization to indicate you are significantly RAISING your voice for added emphasis. Also, congratulations on coming to the conclusion that you should not listen other peoples' opinions. This notion is so oddly simple as a concept that it makes me wonder why nobody, especially people on reality television, have thought of this. See, I knew this one girl who claimed she didn't care about anyone's opinions, but when offered a positive opinion concerning herself, she accepted it, giving credence to the possibility that she, despite her assertion of (and pardon my French) 'not giving a fuck about what anybody says about me', does, in fact, give a fuck. In all probability, you were most likely recently given advice from someone that you followed and the situation you hoped would ameliorate upon the initiation of following this advice quickly deteriorated, leaving you dejected and ireful. At least, that what I imagine happened, but you could have very well just have been sitting around one day, sipping orange juice and playing some good ol' Donkey Kong 64 and in between collecting golden bananas, a thought popped into your head: "Hey wait a minute! Peoples' advice sucks!" and just had to get up and post it on your fancy computer-phone, cuz that's just latest craze with all the kids these days. However, do not despair! The advice given was a dying breath of human empathy, lost in a fast-paced, high-pressure modern world, one so out-of-sync with nature that our greatest ambitions are reduced to blurbs, and where we are robbed so dearly of our expression and hope that even tiniest bits of useful advice become shining beacons of hope for those deprived and starving for significance in an otherwise meaningless existence. And by some small measure of hope, they hope to pass on to you the same reassurance they felt when first hearing the advice they were someday destined to give, that even in some small way, it would help you. But you bat it away carelessly! Their good intentions are dashed upon the rocks of your anger. They were like ants, offering up crumbs to huge god in the sky (you) who simply said "It is not enough! Why do you peons belittle my name with such blasphemy? Do you dare to insult my intelligence with such parsimonious offerings?" as the ants, from their tiny mound in the earth, hold the gifts higher and reply "Please, Lord, do not be angry with us, for our hearts and our brains are small, but this we give to you as a sign of our good will." and you reply with a can of Raid, saying, "Cursed be your kind, for what you have offered me is counted as trash."
hahaha, wtf?
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