On September 01 2014 19:59 Skynx wrote: Man I fkin loved WoW, I wish it stayed in BC forever maybe wotlk, rest just sucked ass and ruined the entire thing...
I'd also rate the original Medieval Total War way over Rome tw
If I had to rank the expansions for myself in terms of how much fun I had it would go like this:
1. Classic 2. Wrath of the Lich King 3. Early Cataclysm 4. Mists of Pandaria 5. The Burning Crusade 6. Late Cataclysm
I didn't particularly enjoy Burning Crusade as much as a lot of other people did. My fondest nostalgia memories are all from Classic, Burning Crusade to me as I remember it is a lot of Warriors and Warlocks being completely overpowered.
Burning Crusade wasn't a fun time to be a Paladin which is my main class and has been since 2004. Mists of Pandaria gets a lot of unnecessary hate for its Pandaren theme that turned off a lot of people. I personally love the theme and the Lore from this expansion is the best since Wrath.
Cataclysm is an enigma though and probably the hardest of the expansions to really classify which is why I broke it into two halves. Early Cataclysm with its early raid tier, difficult heroics and brand new rated Battleground system was some of the most fun I have ever had in World of Warcraft. Leveling through the zones was an absolute joy and leveling an alt character through all of the revamped zones was amazing as well.
Dragon Soul on the other hand was a huge let down, especially after spending as many months as we did with nothing but Firelands as the game's primary raid content.
As far as Medieval: Total War goes, there's a very big reason I have Rome over it. While Medieval Total War laid out the basics for the game and nailed the macro map dynamics perfectly, its engine suffered when it came to the actual RTS battles. Rome's RTS system is way more polished and much more fun to use, whereas MTW felt like a chore and only something I used when I knew I couldn't trust the outcome of a battle to my generals.
On September 01 2014 19:59 Skynx wrote: Man I fkin loved WoW, I wish it stayed in BC forever maybe wotlk, rest just sucked ass and ruined the entire thing...
I'd also rate the original Medieval Total War way over Rome tw
If I had to rank the expansions for myself in terms of how much fun I had it would go like this:
1. Classic 2. Wrath of the Lich King 3. Early Cataclysm 4. Mists of Pandaria 5. The Burning Crusade 6. Late Cataclysm
I didn't particularly enjoy Burning Crusade as much as a lot of other people did. My fondest nostalgia memories are all from Classic, Burning Crusade to me as I remember it is a lot of Warriors and Warlocks being completely overpowered.
Burning Crusade wasn't a fun time to be a Paladin which is my main class and has been since 2004. Mists of Pandaria gets a lot of unnecessary hate for its Pandaren theme that turned off a lot of people. I personally love the theme and the Lore from this expansion is the best since Wrath.
Cataclysm is an enigma though and probably the hardest of the expansions to really classify which is why I broke it into two halves. Early Cataclysm with its early raid tier, difficult heroics and brand new rated Battleground system was some of the most fun I have ever had in World of Warcraft. Leveling through the zones was an absolute joy and leveling an alt character through all of the revamped zones was amazing as well.
Dragon Soul on the other hand was a huge let down, especially after spending as many months as we did with nothing but Firelands as the game's primary raid content.
As far as Medieval: Total War goes, there's a very big reason I have Rome over it. While Medieval Total War laid out the basics for the game and nailed the macro map dynamics perfectly, its engine suffered when it came to the actual RTS battles. Rome's RTS system is way more polished and much more fun to use, whereas MTW felt like a chore and only something I used when I knew I couldn't trust the outcome of a battle to my generals.
Man I got a huge nostalgia overload and had to spoiler this,
Yea I see how it goes for you, I mostly think about tiers when I think of expansions. Was too new to the game in vanilla but in TBC, when Karazhan came, I absolutely loved every single bit of it the lore, the encounters, the general scene, the guild environment it was so epic. TK, BT were all beautiful raids, I remember how hard Vahsj and Kael fights actually were, I still tried to solo them in cata just cuz I enjoyed the encounter mechanics. Not even mentioning M'uru, hell I haven't even seen KJ pre patch.
In the end I was a bit frustrated with sunwell patch and had to take a break eventually with having to prepare for high school exam. When I came back, it was Ulduar time and I absolutely fell in love. It felt like a legendary more epic 25 man version of Kara, the storyline, the references were all masterpiece. Every single encounter was an artwork and required all of the 25 ppl there to pay attention in overall it was the single most gorgeous raid for me. Rip Ulduar, I loved you.
After that everything felt like just a nosedive for me. ToC was a mess, an entire tier was played in a single arena, fights weren't troubling at all and on top of everything there was a frkin new dungeon that let gave near Ulduar lvl items. Icc was quite similar with new easymode dungeon, boring environment and fight that lasted the longes tier ever seen spare a nice few encounters that is Sindragosa and LK, maybe Blood Queen. The rest is, well... pretty much the same pattern.
What I loved in TBC, early WotLK was the genuine, epic image and the reality that game offered with its content. The single most annoying factor that ruined the game for me was the group finder tool. Nowadays (or at least back then when I quit would say about year and a half ago) you press two buttons, you get in a dungeon/raid is not entertaining, yell to people that you don't know, ninja items that you don't need, get your tokens and press quit.
I loved looking for group through city chat, because every time you get to know new people that you keep running into quite often. It was really sociable and I made quite many in game friends that started with "thx for the summon", I've even seen couple of them irl, nowadays how often you hear the word summon? Oh let me remember how did you get to Kara, you had to take a gryphon to Duskkwood, use your ground mound and actually walk a couple of miles downhill. I don't remember the last time I used a ground mount in MoP. You know what I actually liked having to spend couple hours of trying to find a decent scarlet monastery group and walking all the way from that fishing town. You did also add those decent people and lvl with them together in stranglethorn after lets say. Oh right, leveling!
Leveling was a thing on its own, no bonus exp gain items existed back then. Slow mount was available at lvl 40! You actually get to explore and experience every single bit that game had to offer and it was fucking fun! It took days to lvl my druid to 20 when I got my travel form, I remember how excited I was. I enjoyed long quests that had no in game indications, that was a challenge and you actually had to read the entire quest text, while now ppl reach 20 in couple of hours with omg all blue gear.
I will probably edit this and add more things just to spill it all out No pun intended man I like you, I just had this sudden emerge of emotions hahah, god I loved some things were...
I wonder because I am not sure that own age has the biggest influence about "my top10" or game industry really offered great/best games around 1995-2005 relating to game quality and longevity.
I am 26 and not a single game from 2006-now is my top10. Wc3, Diablo2, THPS1, THPS2 , CTR, Gran Turismo2, Gran Turismo 3, pokemon red, Cnc generals, CnC red alert2 . All are from 1998-2004.
On September 01 2014 22:14 Dingodile wrote: Are you ~25?
I wonder because I am not sure that own age has the biggest influence about "my top10" or game industry really offered great/best games around 1995-2005 relating to game quality and longevity.
I am 26 and not a single game from 2006-now is my top10. Wc3, Diablo2, THPS1, THPS2 , CTR, Gran Turismo2, Gran Turismo 3, pokemon red, Cnc generals, CnC red alert2 . All are from 1998-2004.
26
Although you could easily decipher that if you read that Poke'mon came out in the 3rd grade and WoW came out in High School in my OP.
I feel bad for kiddies now adays. If you are in the like 25ish+ age you lived through such a great time for games. Think of the absurd advancement in games from like the mid 90s to mid 2000s. Maybe I'm biased or just out of the loop, but to me it seems like games have barely changed at all since like 2007 and have also gained some malicious little additions like DLC, freemium shit, etc.
On September 02 2014 01:27 DannyJ wrote: I feel bad for kiddies now adays. If you are in the like 25ish+ age you lived through such a great time for games. Think of the absurd advancement in games from like the mid 90s to mid 2000s. Maybe I'm biased or just out of the loop, but to me it seems like games have barely changed at all since like 2007 and have also gained some malicious little additions like DLC, freemium shit, etc.
In my time growing up I got to experience three major innovations in Video Games that completely changed everything.
1. 3D. The jump from the SNES to the N64 was quite simply mind boggling at the time for me, and getting to experience how well all of my favorite franchises adjusted to 3D was simply joyous.
2. Online multiplayer. This is one of the things that blew me away the most about Starcraft and one of things that probably made it so impacting.
3. Portable game consoles. The Gameboy had just come out when I was a kid and I remember playing with it, 4 big double A batteries for two shades of green on the screen but it was amazing. The evolution from the Gameboy to the pocket to the Gameboy advance was really exciting, and now mobile gaming is arguably an even bigger industry than conventional gaming.
To say that the 90's to the 2000's was a huge era for game innovation is not an exaggeration at all.
Where the fuck is Goldeneye 64? Out of every game I've played this was the best hands down no other game even comes close now a day in terms of game play I had so much fun back then.
BW is #1 ......Great choice! ...pretty nice list of games...I am so mad about A link to the past, I got so far in this game and then they shut down NESBox.com ...I was actually at the boss in the picture you showed, I almost had it beat. Don't really feel like going back through and playing all the way back to that point lol.
Nice list ! How is Rome total war? Looks kinda epic.
On September 02 2014 08:12 GGzerG wrote: BW is #1 ......Great choice! ...pretty nice list of games...I am so mad about A link to the past, I got so far in this game and then they shut down NESBox.com ...I was actually at the boss in the picture you showed, I almost had it beat. Don't really feel like going back through and playing all the way back to that point lol.
Nice list ! How is Rome total war? Looks kinda epic.
If you like strategy games I highly recommend the entire Total War franchise. (Except Empire, I'm not a huge fan of that one). You can pick up Rome 1 for like 10-15 bucks on Steam with its expansion pack included. It's graphics are a bit dated now, but it's still a fun game.
As I said in my OP, even though I listed Rome, my favorite in the series is actually Medieval Total War 2, you can also pick that one with its awesome expansion Kingdoms for no more than 20 bucks on Steam.
On September 02 2014 04:32 TriO wrote: Where the fuck is Goldeneye 64? Out of every game I've played this was the best hands down no other game even comes close now a day in terms of game play I had so much fun back then.
What? Goldeneye was awful as an fps even when it was released, and it has aged horribly. There are literally dozens of pc fps games from the 90s that are superior to it.
As for the topic, why are you including both multiplayer and singleplayer games in a single list? They are completely different (single player games=puzzles, fundamentally different in design)
On September 02 2014 04:32 TriO wrote: Where the fuck is Goldeneye 64? Out of every game I've played this was the best hands down no other game even comes close now a day in terms of game play I had so much fun back then.
What? Goldeneye was awful as an fps even when it was released, and it has aged horribly. There are literally dozens of pc fps games from the 90s that are superior to it.
As for the topic, why are you including both multiplayer and singleplayer games in a single list? They are completely different (single player games=puzzles, fundamentally different in design)
There's only three games out of 10 up there that are either 100% multiplayer or single player.
Morrowind and Zelda are the only two Single player only games and WoW is the only 100% multiplayer game (although there are plenty of people that play it entirely solo)
The rest all have both single player and multiplayer functionality which is one of the things I love about them. In fact that was one of the things that made a lot of them so great. They were great games to play on my own and I also got to share them with my brothers which was always a necessity since we only ever had one game console at a time.
On September 01 2014 19:59 Skynx wrote: Man I fkin loved WoW, I wish it stayed in BC forever maybe wotlk, rest just sucked ass and ruined the entire thing...
I'd also rate the original Medieval Total War way over Rome tw
If I had to rank the expansions for myself in terms of how much fun I had it would go like this:
1. Classic 2. Wrath of the Lich King 3. Early Cataclysm 4. Mists of Pandaria 5. The Burning Crusade 6. Late Cataclysm
I didn't particularly enjoy Burning Crusade as much as a lot of other people did. My fondest nostalgia memories are all from Classic, Burning Crusade to me as I remember it is a lot of Warriors and Warlocks being completely overpowered.
Burning Crusade wasn't a fun time to be a Paladin which is my main class and has been since 2004. Mists of Pandaria gets a lot of unnecessary hate for its Pandaren theme that turned off a lot of people. I personally love the theme and the Lore from this expansion is the best since Wrath.
Cataclysm is an enigma though and probably the hardest of the expansions to really classify which is why I broke it into two halves. Early Cataclysm with its early raid tier, difficult heroics and brand new rated Battleground system was some of the most fun I have ever had in World of Warcraft. Leveling through the zones was an absolute joy and leveling an alt character through all of the revamped zones was amazing as well.
Dragon Soul on the other hand was a huge let down, especially after spending as many months as we did with nothing but Firelands as the game's primary raid content.
As far as Medieval: Total War goes, there's a very big reason I have Rome over it. While Medieval Total War laid out the basics for the game and nailed the macro map dynamics perfectly, its engine suffered when it came to the actual RTS battles. Rome's RTS system is way more polished and much more fun to use, whereas MTW felt like a chore and only something I used when I knew I couldn't trust the outcome of a battle to my generals.
Man I got a huge nostalgia overload and had to spoiler this,
Yea I see how it goes for you, I mostly think about tiers when I think of expansions. Was too new to the game in vanilla but in TBC, when Karazhan came, I absolutely loved every single bit of it the lore, the encounters, the general scene, the guild environment it was so epic. TK, BT were all beautiful raids, I remember how hard Vahsj and Kael fights actually were, I still tried to solo them in cata just cuz I enjoyed the encounter mechanics. Not even mentioning M'uru, hell I haven't even seen KJ pre patch.
In the end I was a bit frustrated with sunwell patch and had to take a break eventually with having to prepare for high school exam. When I came back, it was Ulduar time and I absolutely fell in love. It felt like a legendary more epic 25 man version of Kara, the storyline, the references were all masterpiece. Every single encounter was an artwork and required all of the 25 ppl there to pay attention in overall it was the single most gorgeous raid for me. Rip Ulduar, I loved you.
After that everything felt like just a nosedive for me. ToC was a mess, an entire tier was played in a single arena, fights weren't troubling at all and on top of everything there was a frkin new dungeon that let gave near Ulduar lvl items. Icc was quite similar with new easymode dungeon, boring environment and fight that lasted the longes tier ever seen spare a nice few encounters that is Sindragosa and LK, maybe Blood Queen. The rest is, well... pretty much the same pattern.
What I loved in TBC, early WotLK was the genuine, epic image and the reality that game offered with its content. The single most annoying factor that ruined the game for me was the group finder tool. Nowadays (or at least back then when I quit would say about year and a half ago) you press two buttons, you get in a dungeon/raid is not entertaining, yell to people that you don't know, ninja items that you don't need, get your tokens and press quit.
I loved looking for group through city chat, because every time you get to know new people that you keep running into quite often. It was really sociable and I made quite many in game friends that started with "thx for the summon", I've even seen couple of them irl, nowadays how often you hear the word summon? Oh let me remember how did you get to Kara, you had to take a gryphon to Duskkwood, use your ground mound and actually walk a couple of miles downhill. I don't remember the last time I used a ground mount in MoP. You know what I actually liked having to spend couple hours of trying to find a decent scarlet monastery group and walking all the way from that fishing town. You did also add those decent people and lvl with them together in stranglethorn after lets say. Oh right, leveling!
Leveling was a thing on its own, no bonus exp gain items existed back then. Slow mount was available at lvl 40! You actually get to explore and experience every single bit that game had to offer and it was fucking fun! It took days to lvl my druid to 20 when I got my travel form, I remember how excited I was. I enjoyed long quests that had no in game indications, that was a challenge and you actually had to read the entire quest text, while now ppl reach 20 in couple of hours with omg all blue gear.
I will probably edit this and add more things just to spill it all out No pun intended man I like you, I just had this sudden emerge of emotions hahah, god I loved some things were...
On September 02 2014 04:32 TriO wrote: Where the fuck is Goldeneye 64? Out of every game I've played this was the best hands down no other game even comes close now a day in terms of game play I had so much fun back then.
What? Goldeneye was awful as an fps even when it was released, and it has aged horribly. There are literally dozens of pc fps games from the 90s that are superior to it.
As for the topic, why are you including both multiplayer and singleplayer games in a single list? They are completely different (single player games=puzzles, fundamentally different in design)
There's only three games out of 10 up there that are either 100% multiplayer or single player.
Morrowind and Zelda are the only two Single player only games and WoW is the only 100% multiplayer game (although there are plenty of people that play it entirely solo)
The rest all have both single player and multiplayer functionality which is one of the things I love about them. In fact that was one of the things that made a lot of them so great. They were great games to play on my own and I also got to share them with my brothers which was always a necessity since we only ever had one game console at a time.
I mean, it still doesn't make a lot of sense. It would be comparable to me making a list of "10 best albums and movies." They just aren't comparable other than the fact you interact with them in some way.
On September 02 2014 04:32 TriO wrote: Where the fuck is Goldeneye 64? Out of every game I've played this was the best hands down no other game even comes close now a day in terms of game play I had so much fun back then.
What? Goldeneye was awful as an fps even when it was released, and it has aged horribly. There are literally dozens of pc fps games from the 90s that are superior to it.
As for the topic, why are you including both multiplayer and singleplayer games in a single list? They are completely different (single player games=puzzles, fundamentally different in design)
There's only three games out of 10 up there that are either 100% multiplayer or single player.
Morrowind and Zelda are the only two Single player only games and WoW is the only 100% multiplayer game (although there are plenty of people that play it entirely solo)
The rest all have both single player and multiplayer functionality which is one of the things I love about them. In fact that was one of the things that made a lot of them so great. They were great games to play on my own and I also got to share them with my brothers which was always a necessity since we only ever had one game console at a time.
I mean, it still doesn't make a lot of sense. It would be comparable to me making a list of "10 best albums and movies." They just aren't comparable other than the fact you interact with them in some way.
They aren't THAT different, if anything it's more comparable to having blockbusters in the same list of your favorite movies that also includes something like Schindler's List.
A video game is a video game, if I wanted to be specific about it I would've broken it down across genre lines like RTS, FPS or RPG, but separating them based on multiplayer or single player is not something I have ever seen done on any site or magazine so I'm not sure where you're drawing the conclusion that it's the logical thing to do from. Especially since as I said all but 3 of the games listed are both multiplayer and single player games.
Where would you even draw the distinction on a game like Smash Brothers, Mario Kart or Starcraft? Sure all three games have insanely successful multiplayer followings but you can't simply dismiss how good of a single player game each title is as well.
This list is just a list of my personal favorite games of all time, they branch across genres and eras. It's not meant to be a hyper specific list referring only to one type of game.
On September 01 2014 19:59 Skynx wrote: Man I fkin loved WoW, I wish it stayed in BC forever maybe wotlk, rest just sucked ass and ruined the entire thing...
I'd also rate the original Medieval Total War way over Rome tw
If I had to rank the expansions for myself in terms of how much fun I had it would go like this:
1. Classic 2. Wrath of the Lich King 3. Early Cataclysm 4. Mists of Pandaria 5. The Burning Crusade 6. Late Cataclysm
I didn't particularly enjoy Burning Crusade as much as a lot of other people did. My fondest nostalgia memories are all from Classic, Burning Crusade to me as I remember it is a lot of Warriors and Warlocks being completely overpowered.
Burning Crusade wasn't a fun time to be a Paladin which is my main class and has been since 2004. Mists of Pandaria gets a lot of unnecessary hate for its Pandaren theme that turned off a lot of people. I personally love the theme and the Lore from this expansion is the best since Wrath.
Cataclysm is an enigma though and probably the hardest of the expansions to really classify which is why I broke it into two halves. Early Cataclysm with its early raid tier, difficult heroics and brand new rated Battleground system was some of the most fun I have ever had in World of Warcraft. Leveling through the zones was an absolute joy and leveling an alt character through all of the revamped zones was amazing as well.
Dragon Soul on the other hand was a huge let down, especially after spending as many months as we did with nothing but Firelands as the game's primary raid content.
As far as Medieval: Total War goes, there's a very big reason I have Rome over it. While Medieval Total War laid out the basics for the game and nailed the macro map dynamics perfectly, its engine suffered when it came to the actual RTS battles. Rome's RTS system is way more polished and much more fun to use, whereas MTW felt like a chore and only something I used when I knew I couldn't trust the outcome of a battle to my generals.
Man I got a huge nostalgia overload and had to spoiler this,
Yea I see how it goes for you, I mostly think about tiers when I think of expansions. Was too new to the game in vanilla but in TBC, when Karazhan came, I absolutely loved every single bit of it the lore, the encounters, the general scene, the guild environment it was so epic. TK, BT were all beautiful raids, I remember how hard Vahsj and Kael fights actually were, I still tried to solo them in cata just cuz I enjoyed the encounter mechanics. Not even mentioning M'uru, hell I haven't even seen KJ pre patch.
In the end I was a bit frustrated with sunwell patch and had to take a break eventually with having to prepare for high school exam. When I came back, it was Ulduar time and I absolutely fell in love. It felt like a legendary more epic 25 man version of Kara, the storyline, the references were all masterpiece. Every single encounter was an artwork and required all of the 25 ppl there to pay attention in overall it was the single most gorgeous raid for me. Rip Ulduar, I loved you.
After that everything felt like just a nosedive for me. ToC was a mess, an entire tier was played in a single arena, fights weren't troubling at all and on top of everything there was a frkin new dungeon that let gave near Ulduar lvl items. Icc was quite similar with new easymode dungeon, boring environment and fight that lasted the longes tier ever seen spare a nice few encounters that is Sindragosa and LK, maybe Blood Queen. The rest is, well... pretty much the same pattern.
What I loved in TBC, early WotLK was the genuine, epic image and the reality that game offered with its content. The single most annoying factor that ruined the game for me was the group finder tool. Nowadays (or at least back then when I quit would say about year and a half ago) you press two buttons, you get in a dungeon/raid is not entertaining, yell to people that you don't know, ninja items that you don't need, get your tokens and press quit.
I loved looking for group through city chat, because every time you get to know new people that you keep running into quite often. It was really sociable and I made quite many in game friends that started with "thx for the summon", I've even seen couple of them irl, nowadays how often you hear the word summon? Oh let me remember how did you get to Kara, you had to take a gryphon to Duskkwood, use your ground mound and actually walk a couple of miles downhill. I don't remember the last time I used a ground mount in MoP. You know what I actually liked having to spend couple hours of trying to find a decent scarlet monastery group and walking all the way from that fishing town. You did also add those decent people and lvl with them together in stranglethorn after lets say. Oh right, leveling!
Leveling was a thing on its own, no bonus exp gain items existed back then. Slow mount was available at lvl 40! You actually get to explore and experience every single bit that game had to offer and it was fucking fun! It took days to lvl my druid to 20 when I got my travel form, I remember how excited I was. I enjoyed long quests that had no in game indications, that was a challenge and you actually had to read the entire quest text, while now ppl reach 20 in couple of hours with omg all blue gear.
I will probably edit this and add more things just to spill it all out No pun intended man I like you, I just had this sudden emerge of emotions hahah, god I loved some things were...
I for one agree wholeheartedly with DK Country 2 up there, its one of the best games made for SNES (along with A Link to the Past, Super Mario World, and maybe F-Zero, Secret of Mana, and Contra 3)
On September 01 2014 14:31 NovemberstOrm wrote: Paper Mario was pretty awesome, had a lot of fun with it as a kid, also Mario Party was a classic that I'll remember.
Paper Mario was awesome, but not quite as good as Super Mario RPG!
Your list is completely different to mine. It's something that I notice, a lot of people either have lots of Nintendo classics or none at all.
My personal top 10 would be: 1. MGS 3 2. Silent Hill 2 3. FF IX 4. GTA vice city 5. Pokemon gold/silver 6. ICO 7. Hitman blood money 8. Waking dead 9. Bioshock 10. Resident evil: outbreak
EPT
No pun intended man I like you, I just had this sudden emerge of emotions hahah, god I loved some things were...
