Weight loss and girls - Page 2

On March 18 2014 15:18 MaestroSC wrote:


I eat a lot of garbage, but not only garbage. My favorite dinner is a bowl with white rice, chicken, corn haha. Tonight i had a ground beef/potato and cheese burrito the size of my head, came out to roughly 1000

I am not saying you HAVE to eat junk food and fast food nonstop, I just dont like the idea that most people push of "you cant eat fast food and lose weight" which is something that is HEAVILY preached in America. IDK how many times ive come in to work after lunch with a bag of fast food, and had someone say "i thought u were on a diet" to which i just turn laugh and tell them how much ive lost eating this shit.

about the lifting thing, again i said its a pure psychological thing for me. I know that iom still losing fat and gaining muscle, but for at least the first month, its extremely comforting to see the numbers fall, and KNOW that what you are doing is working. Whereas if you are lifting, simultaneously gaining muscle while losing fat, for the first couple weeks you literally wont see a difference on the scale, and when you only see urself as fat, its hard to see minor differences adding up in the beginning.

Also, im not preaching 2 meals a day, or 1 meal a day (which on weekends i will generally just eat til I cant stand, 1 giant meal at around 4-5. Cause then I can feast on something horrible like a large pizza, or a bucket of chicken, or an order of bacon/cheese fries mmmmm.) I am just saying dont buy in to the "u have to eat 6 small meals to lose weight" which is another giant misconception about weight loss.

And were not going to agree i guess on the muscle/fat losing timeline i guess. I know for a fact, that if you take 2 people of similar weight (say 250 pounds), one of whom has enough muscle to bench 300 pounds, and the other of whom who has never even done a benchpress, chances are the one who has never done a benchpress will have much more fat than the other guy. And that fat will disappear faster. Sort of like my brother and I... he lost his weight approx 1.5x my rate, because he was considerably more out of shape, and thus had more to lose, and his first 30 pounds fell off in like 3 weeks.

IDK man i feel its pretty easy to get any fast food meal under 1k. Like i said, dont fucking eat bread. lol. Bread is horrible for u, order that burger protein style, and you can literally have another burger. Or order a triple burger, take off the bun, and eat it with a fork. Literally will cut off 2-400 calories depending on the bread they use.

Just saying. Like for instance, at Mcdonalds, i can get either 20 mcnuggets, or 10 mcnuggets and a large fry, thats plenty for a single lunch. And its hilarious to tell people you are losing weight while eating Mcdonalds.

On March 18 2014 14:29 GoTuNk! wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sports/439963-teamliquid-health-and-fitness-initiative-for-2014

start posting here and read the stickies

whatever path you take, consistency is the most important thing in whatever you have to change to reach your goal

On March 18 2014 11:59 sluggaslamoo wrote:
As someone who's often been complimented on looks while being terrible at relationships , I really think relationships are about finding someone you can connect with, and not looks.

blablabla looks aren't important

On March 18 2014 16:19 NukeD wrote:

Sure you can lose weight while eating lots of garbage if you keep the calories down, but you will never get a six pack on that sort of diet.

On March 18 2014 10:49 schmutttt wrote:

Everyone talks about how we shouldn't be shallow and personality > appearance etc, but I've started to think that how the fuck can I expect girls to like me when I'm not putting in the effort to make myself look as good as I possibly can? I'll be honest, I would NEVER date a fat girl (Which probably makes me sound like an arsehole, I'm not one of those guys who demands supermodel bodies I swear), I don't put a huge emphasis on looks, but I am really turned off by someone who is overweight, which makes me think how naïve and selfish I've been since I finished school.

On March 19 2014 00:00 openbox1 wrote:
Don't even look at the scale. Weight can fluctuate so much based on what time of the day you weigh yourself, how hydrated you are, whether you just ate a salty snack etc... Just look in the mirror. Sometimes some people have a distorted view of themselves then the mirror test doesn't work so well. In that case, take a shirt that barely fits, or is a bit tight on your man boobs area, or pants that feels they're about to explode when you're barely able to put it on.

As you progress in your diet/exercise, wear those clothes just to feel the fit. Its a great morale boost as they get looser and looser and its undeniable proof that your efforts are not in vain.

Losing weight is not rocket science, less calories in than calories out and you're golden. Don't get too bogged down in the nitty details like protein/carb/fat breakdown, paleo vs atkins, weights vs cardio etc... Everyone finds their own groove. See what works for you and stick with it. While the science is easy, its not a cakewalk simply because the will power component to restrain yourself from your old habits can be hard at times.

On March 18 2014 16:19 NukeD wrote:

Sure you can lose weight while eating lots of garbage if you keep the calories down, but you will never get a six pack on that sort of diet.

On March 24 2014 01:22 YPang wrote:
I read most of the thread and here's what i have to say:

For the argument of who loses more weight faster, the guy with more muscle or less muscle, imo depends on who has on more % of fat. if 2 guys both weighting in at 200lbs, one has a 100lb lean body mass, the other with 180lb lean body mass, obviously the guy with less muscle will lose the weight faster. But on the other hand if both has same % of body fat, then the guy with more muscle will lose the fat faster.

As for the diet, i don't understand why people have to make it so complicated with the 5 meals a day or 2 big meals a day and calorie count shit. We humans are just like any other animals, we are hungry for a reason. If you deprive yourself of foods that you crave for, you'll cave in eventually. It's not a matter of if you'll cave it, it's a matter of WHEN you'll cave.

I think we should just eat natural foods, non-processed and you can have as much as you crave. The problem in our society is the lack of knowledge of what is processed or not. People think bread is natural "oh.. wheat, farmers grow those i can eat it" but they don't know that it's not actually natural, and people made by extracting the fiberous stuff so it's more tasty in your mouth.

I'd recommend you do some research on what natural foods are.
Some guidelines are: eat as much as you want of any sort of veggies, fruits, and any cuts of meat including fatty (but prefer lean of course, fatty meat isn't as bad as most people think it is). Some people may not know, but vegetable oil is actually pretty bad for you, especially if it's heated. In fact, one of the best thing you can do for your heart is to stop eating HEATED vegetable oils. The 2nd is to stop eating processed breads and gluten.

Also, what i'm recommending above is not necessarily paleo, because u can eat beans, potatoes and paleo community seemed to be extremely fixated on diets of cavemen, so much to the point of arguing if beans are "paleo" or not as opposd to looking at it's nutritional values.

So yeah, imo, don't eat junk food at restaurants, COOK your own food so you know EXACTLY what's going in. Eat until your satisified without cravings. If you ever crave like soda, chips or burgers. Break down that craving into it's main macronutrients and replace it with a healthier option.

For example: if you crave candy, you are low in carbohydrates, try eating some sweat potatoes or a fruit. If you crave like a burger, you're probably actually craving fats and protein. Try eating some chicken breasts or some nuts....etc.

It'll be hard in the first week or two following this routine, but eventually it'll be a lot easier, you'll feel a lot better as well. You won't even crave the bad food after that period.

Good luck man.

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Edit: you'll lose weight fast and healthy this way. You can eat as much as you'd desire because as i've stated earlier, there's a reason for your cravings and you need to deal with that and then properly move on. Nobody ever says they crave bananas, mangos, or brazil nuts, so go ahead and eat until your satisified.

**additional science fact** processed foods are toxens because our bodies does not recognize those processed foods. Also toxens are lipophilic so not only do they affect your brain by penetrating your BBB (blood brain barrier, only liphophilic stuff can get through) your body also fail to properly metabolize it and turns it into adipose. The most common example of this is alcohol. Alcohol is toxic, and can enter your brain because it's lipophilic and crosses the BBB. In addition, it also leaves you fat.

How can a burger from McDonalds be equivalent to a meal of chicken, brown rice and cashews? It’s quite simple, your body does not recognize whether the food your eating is ‘clean’ or ‘junk’. It will only recognize food’s for it’s nutrients, such as proteins, fats or carbohydrates.

For example; a McDonalds Seared Grand Chicken Burger is worth 501 calories which consists of 35.3g of protein, 15g of fat and 53.4g of carbohydrates.

Whereas, 130g of chicken, 25g of cashews and 120g boiled white rice is worth 520 calories which consists of 16.5g of fat, 55.2g of carbs and 37.9g of protein.

When you consume either of these meals, your body processes the food based on the macro-nutrient values (which you can see are extremely similar) and will yield the EXACT same effects on your body composition. These results are solely on body composition and do not take into account the micro-nutrients which your body needs in order to maintain your health. You can always opt for a multi-vitamin or try to fit foods into your macros with higher micro-nutritional values to help balance the ‘processed’ or ‘junk’ foods consumed.

Now, I’m sure that some of you will be asking, “What about the different types of fats in these meals? The burger will be higher in unhealthy saturated fats while the traditional meal will be much higher in the healthy unsaturated fats.” (Probably not in so many words, but you get the picture)

However, recently in the U.S, a professor of human nutrition decided to lose weight purely through calorie counting disregarding the rest of the nutritional values of the foods he consumed.

He spent 10 weeks in a caloric deficit and consumed “a steady stream of…Hostess and Little Debbie snacks…Doritos chips, sugary cereals and Oreos.” Here’s the most interesting bit of all, “You might expect other indicators of health would have suffered. Not so. Haub’s “bad” cholesterol, or LDL, dropped 20% and his “good” cholesterol, or HDL, increased by 20%. He reduced the level of triglycerides, which are a form of fat, by 39%.”²

His results clearly showed that being overweight is what causes the majority of these effects, rather than the nutritional value of the foods consumed.

On March 30 2014 04:52 YPang wrote:
Meh, i'm going to have to disagree with the above poster. This is type of argument that can last forever, so this will be the last things i have to say in regards to what you posted.

And eating healthy has everything to do with losing weight lol. I have never met a nutritionist/doctor/health professional that has recommended eating junk food and losing weight.

Eating healthy often means eating less as natural unprocessed foods are usually high in satiety, high in fiber and fluids. Therefore you're eating less calories and your are more satisfied. Satiety is a result of consuming high nutrient dense foods. When you crave something, you are lacking a certain nutrient and the only way you can get that nutrient is by eating the food that is associated with it.

The people that are eating nothing but "unprocessed" foods may not actually be eating unprocessed foods as many people do not have a clue about what foods are processed. And even if they are eating truly natural unprocessed foods, sure some of them may still be overweight. But let me assure you that there are MUCH more people in a healthy weight and feel good about themselves when they eat a healthy and unprocessed diet than someone being overweight and eating a healthy diet.

And the article is rather unscientific. The U.S professor that performed the diet experiment would need more subjects to make such claims. I bet you I can find someone being skinny lean and still have high cholesterol and have shitty HDL. Infact i know for a fact that is possible from reviewing countless blood works in relation to people's BMI's lol.

EDIT: I'm an idiot, didn't come to me that there's the possibility that you're trolling me based on the ridiculous claims and the website "doyoueven" as a reference.... lmao.

What Mark Haub ate
On September 10, his diet consisted of:
- a double espresso
- two servings of Hostess Twinkies Golden Sponge Cake
- one Centrum Advance Formula "From A To Zinc" pill
- one serving of Little Debbie Star Crunch cookies
- a Diet Mr Dew drink
- half a serving of Doritos Cool Ranch corn chips
- two servings of Kellogg's Corn Pops cereal
- a serving of whole milk
- half a serving of raw baby carrots
- one and a half servings of Duncan Hines Family Style Chewy Fudge brownie
- half a serving of Little Debbie Zebra Cake
- one serving of Muscle Milk Protein Shake drink
- Total: 1589 calories


Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/diet-and-fitness/junkfood-diet-proves-fat-success-20101110-17n0o.html#ixzz2xQ4TL2gi

YPang wrote: The U.S professor that performed the diet experiment would need more subjects to make such claims. I bet you I can find someone being skinny lean and still have high cholesterol and have shitty HDL. Infact i know for a fact that is possible from reviewing countless blood works in relation to people's BMI's lol.

sluggaslamoo wrote: If cravings are a big problem, then the solution is not to eat healthy, but to eat foods with a high satiety index. Most likely these foods will be the foods that you and most others consider "healthy"

His LDL dropped by 20% and his HDL increased by 20% and lost 27lbs.

Now him being a professor on nutrition we can pretty much guarantee he knew exactly what foods he should and shouldn't eat. He, according to your guidelines, should know what are unprocessed and processed foods. He based his original diet on healthy foods.

Not only did he lose weight, he actually became healthier eating the worst junk food possible, than being on his original nutritionist diet.

Originally, he just listened to his cravings, and assumed that as long as he ate healthy, he would lose weight. Which is exactly what you suggested to do. Basically if anyone listened to your advice, most people would still remain fat and unhealthy.