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soon.Cloak
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States983 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-23 07:22:56
February 23 2014 06:50 GMT
#1
Twitch Plays Pokemon is really a ton of fun for a ton of people, including me. But noooo, Destiny, desrow, and others (I don't recognize all the voices) are just trying to spam democracy to throw away Bird Jesus.

Ya, I know you guys are enjoying this, but c'mon- you do realize that you're taking the fun away from most everyone else, right? Not only are you just trying to throw away the pokemon, which will just get people annoyed, but now everyone has to spam "anarchy" to stop you guys from winning, and nobody is able to insert actual commands. Even the ardent democracy fighters don't have any interest in you guys just taking over the whole game.

To be honest, I'm not surprised Destiny is in on this, but desRow? I thought you were a community guy...

edit:


Oh shut up, don't act like you're not encouraging Destiny on to mess it up for the rest of us.

*
Omnishroud
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
1073 Posts
February 23 2014 06:59 GMT
#2
After seeing people complain because people democracy'd a ledge so they couldnt watch 48 hours of jumping off a ledge, walking into a wall and spamming start i really began to lose faith in humanity. I do not understand this craze at all.
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slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-23 07:43:40
February 23 2014 07:42 GMT
#3
On February 23 2014 15:59 Omnishroud wrote:
After seeing people complain because people democracy'd a ledge so they couldnt watch 48 hours of jumping off a ledge, walking into a wall and spamming start i really began to lose faith in humanity. I do not understand this craze at all.

You can find explanations for the preference of anarchy on the TPP subreddit. Basically, people enjoy it not only because it's more of a challenge, but also because the numerous failures and struggles of anarchy are what let such an involved and compelling storyline develop within TPP gameplay. Democracy is argued to pretty much make TPP a really slow "Let's Play".

Also, see your sig
jjakji fan
SnowFantasy
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
4173 Posts
February 23 2014 09:23 GMT
#4
On February 23 2014 16:42 slowbacontron wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2014 15:59 Omnishroud wrote:
After seeing people complain because people democracy'd a ledge so they couldnt watch 48 hours of jumping off a ledge, walking into a wall and spamming start i really began to lose faith in humanity. I do not understand this craze at all.

You can find explanations for the preference of anarchy on the TPP subreddit. Basically, people enjoy it not only because it's more of a challenge, but also because the numerous failures and struggles of anarchy are what let such an involved and compelling storyline develop within TPP gameplay. Democracy is argued to pretty much make TPP a really slow "Let's Play".

Also, see your sig


But Twitch Plays Pokemon IS a really slow let's play.
FuRong
Profile Joined April 2010
New Zealand3089 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-23 11:29:01
February 23 2014 11:28 GMT
#5
If you think one small group of Starcraft players is enough to sway the vote towards democracy, then I think you need to take a look at the numbers. You do realise how many people (and bots) are spamming votes, right?
Don't hate the player, hate the game
soon.Cloak
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States983 Posts
February 23 2014 14:50 GMT
#6
On February 23 2014 20:28 FuRong wrote:
If you think one small group of Starcraft players is enough to sway the vote towards democracy, then I think you need to take a look at the numbers. You do realise how many people (and bots) are spamming votes, right?

During the ledge, and just afterwards, there were 45,000-50,000 people on TPP, and 5000 on Destiny's stream. The large majority of the regulars of TPP were during input commands, while basically all 5k of Destiny's watchers were hitting democracy. Ya, I'd say that's enough to swing the votes.
And you were able to actually watch it happen...
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
February 23 2014 15:16 GMT
#7
So what happens when you vote democracy vs anarchy?
maru lover forever
Sakray
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
France2198 Posts
February 23 2014 16:37 GMT
#8
Typical destiny stuff
1°) Realises he's losing viewers
2°) Finds something popular
- Option A : Causes a huge drama about it
- Option B : Creates a huge mess by screwing with it and asking its viewers to do the same

Repeat for the past 2 years
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
February 23 2014 16:43 GMT
#9
Can someone at least explain why voting democracy is bad?
maru lover forever
Sakray
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
France2198 Posts
February 23 2014 17:43 GMT
#10
On February 24 2014 01:43 Incognoto wrote:
Can someone at least explain why voting democracy is bad?


You basically make 1 action every 20s
XXXSmOke
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States1333 Posts
February 23 2014 19:02 GMT
#11
Incoming 8 paragraph post of Destiny defending himself on reddit in some wierd fashion
Emperor? Boxer disapproves. He's building bunkers at your mom's house even as you're reading this.
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
February 23 2014 21:21 GMT
#12
On February 24 2014 01:43 Incognoto wrote:
Can someone at least explain why voting democracy is bad?

My post from earlier: + Show Spoiler +
You can find explanations for the preference of anarchy on the TPP subreddit. Basically, people enjoy it not only because it's more of a challenge, but also because the numerous failures and struggles of anarchy are what let such an involved and compelling storyline develop within TPP gameplay. Democracy is argued to pretty much make TPP a really slow "Let's Play".

And, as Sakray also said, it's very slow gameplay-wise, even if it's faster progress-wise.

SnowFantasy: Anarchy and Democracy both are really slow "Let's Plays". However, Democracy would, in general, be similar to any other playthrough of Pokemon Red out there, the only difference being that it's way slower. So, pretty boring. Anarchy is not a typical playthrough. Both by accident and through the efforts of trolls, TPP has managed to release several valuable pokemon (including their starter), buy 99 Pokedolls and a fire stone in attempting to buy a water stone, attempt to "use" the S.S. Ticket, Lift Key, the Helix Fossil repeatedly in any and every situation, and fail at many more things constantly. But this is what creates the intricate storyline (summarized well in both of these links) of TPP, and whenever the crowd is somehow successful at accomplishing something, the satisfaction is made all the greater.
jjakji fan
Xiron
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1233 Posts
February 23 2014 22:49 GMT
#13
The real jerks are twitch. "Yeah we're totally accepting that NO OTHER STREAM has a stable chat for 2-3 weeks, because we want this channel, that can't even use more than one input per second, to be spammed to oblivion; for publicity of course." It's so sad these jerks have a monopoly on streaming.
"The way of life can be free and beautiful. But we have lost the way. " - Charlie Chaplin
MichaelDonovan
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1453 Posts
February 23 2014 23:19 GMT
#14
Oh stop whining. Boo hoo video game waaaaah. Jesus.
SnowFantasy
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
4173 Posts
February 23 2014 23:20 GMT
#15
On February 24 2014 06:21 slowbacontron wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2014 01:43 Incognoto wrote:
Can someone at least explain why voting democracy is bad?

My post from earlier: + Show Spoiler +
You can find explanations for the preference of anarchy on the TPP subreddit. Basically, people enjoy it not only because it's more of a challenge, but also because the numerous failures and struggles of anarchy are what let such an involved and compelling storyline develop within TPP gameplay. Democracy is argued to pretty much make TPP a really slow "Let's Play".

And, as Sakray also said, it's very slow gameplay-wise, even if it's faster progress-wise.

SnowFantasy: Anarchy and Democracy both are really slow "Let's Plays". However, Democracy would, in general, be similar to any other playthrough of Pokemon Red out there, the only difference being that it's way slower. So, pretty boring. Anarchy is not a typical playthrough. Both by accident and through the efforts of trolls, TPP has managed to release several valuable pokemon (including their starter), buy 99 Pokedolls and a fire stone in attempting to buy a water stone, attempt to "use" the S.S. Ticket, Lift Key, the Helix Fossil repeatedly in any and every situation, and fail at many more things constantly. But this is what creates the intricate storyline (summarized well in both of these links) of TPP, and whenever the crowd is somehow successful at accomplishing something, the satisfaction is made all the greater.


Why do you get to decide what is boring?
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
February 23 2014 23:35 GMT
#16
On February 24 2014 08:20 SnowFantasy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2014 06:21 slowbacontron wrote:
On February 24 2014 01:43 Incognoto wrote:
Can someone at least explain why voting democracy is bad?

My post from earlier: + Show Spoiler +
You can find explanations for the preference of anarchy on the TPP subreddit. Basically, people enjoy it not only because it's more of a challenge, but also because the numerous failures and struggles of anarchy are what let such an involved and compelling storyline develop within TPP gameplay. Democracy is argued to pretty much make TPP a really slow "Let's Play".

And, as Sakray also said, it's very slow gameplay-wise, even if it's faster progress-wise.

SnowFantasy: Anarchy and Democracy both are really slow "Let's Plays". However, Democracy would, in general, be similar to any other playthrough of Pokemon Red out there, the only difference being that it's way slower. So, pretty boring. Anarchy is not a typical playthrough. Both by accident and through the efforts of trolls, TPP has managed to release several valuable pokemon (including their starter), buy 99 Pokedolls and a fire stone in attempting to buy a water stone, attempt to "use" the S.S. Ticket, Lift Key, the Helix Fossil repeatedly in any and every situation, and fail at many more things constantly. But this is what creates the intricate storyline (summarized well in both of these links) of TPP, and whenever the crowd is somehow successful at accomplishing something, the satisfaction is made all the greater.


Why do you get to decide what is boring?

I don't! If you find democracy exciting, you are allowed to vote for it. Most people vote for anarchy, but it's all personal opinion.
jjakji fan
soon.Cloak
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States983 Posts
February 24 2014 00:37 GMT
#17
On February 24 2014 08:19 MichaelDonovan wrote:
Oh stop whining. Boo hoo video game waaaaah. Jesus.

Bad day?
On February 24 2014 08:20 SnowFantasy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2014 06:21 slowbacontron wrote:
On February 24 2014 01:43 Incognoto wrote:
Can someone at least explain why voting democracy is bad?

My post from earlier: + Show Spoiler +
You can find explanations for the preference of anarchy on the TPP subreddit. Basically, people enjoy it not only because it's more of a challenge, but also because the numerous failures and struggles of anarchy are what let such an involved and compelling storyline develop within TPP gameplay. Democracy is argued to pretty much make TPP a really slow "Let's Play".

And, as Sakray also said, it's very slow gameplay-wise, even if it's faster progress-wise.

SnowFantasy: Anarchy and Democracy both are really slow "Let's Plays". However, Democracy would, in general, be similar to any other playthrough of Pokemon Red out there, the only difference being that it's way slower. So, pretty boring. Anarchy is not a typical playthrough. Both by accident and through the efforts of trolls, TPP has managed to release several valuable pokemon (including their starter), buy 99 Pokedolls and a fire stone in attempting to buy a water stone, attempt to "use" the S.S. Ticket, Lift Key, the Helix Fossil repeatedly in any and every situation, and fail at many more things constantly. But this is what creates the intricate storyline (summarized well in both of these links) of TPP, and whenever the crowd is somehow successful at accomplishing something, the satisfaction is made all the greater.


Why do you get to decide what is boring?

At least for myself, the issue isn't "They're doing something, and I want it to be something else, not fair!" It's that
1) They are a minority ruining it for the majority
2) They are enjoying messing up everyone else. It's only fun for them because we enjoy what we're doing, and they can mess with us. It's parallel to...I don't know, a kid breaking a toy of another kid, enjoying it just because the second kid can no longer play with it, and rationalizing it as "Well, we both wanted to have fun with it, so why couldn't I do this?"
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12702 Posts
February 24 2014 05:21 GMT
#18
But voting for democracy and anarchy are part of the game.
Just let the game develop its way, it's a social experiment afterall.
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
MichaelDonovan
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1453 Posts
February 24 2014 18:18 GMT
#19
On February 24 2014 09:37 soon.Cloak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2014 08:19 MichaelDonovan wrote:
Oh stop whining. Boo hoo video game waaaaah. Jesus.

Bad day?
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2014 08:20 SnowFantasy wrote:
On February 24 2014 06:21 slowbacontron wrote:
On February 24 2014 01:43 Incognoto wrote:
Can someone at least explain why voting democracy is bad?

My post from earlier: + Show Spoiler +
You can find explanations for the preference of anarchy on the TPP subreddit. Basically, people enjoy it not only because it's more of a challenge, but also because the numerous failures and struggles of anarchy are what let such an involved and compelling storyline develop within TPP gameplay. Democracy is argued to pretty much make TPP a really slow "Let's Play".

And, as Sakray also said, it's very slow gameplay-wise, even if it's faster progress-wise.

SnowFantasy: Anarchy and Democracy both are really slow "Let's Plays". However, Democracy would, in general, be similar to any other playthrough of Pokemon Red out there, the only difference being that it's way slower. So, pretty boring. Anarchy is not a typical playthrough. Both by accident and through the efforts of trolls, TPP has managed to release several valuable pokemon (including their starter), buy 99 Pokedolls and a fire stone in attempting to buy a water stone, attempt to "use" the S.S. Ticket, Lift Key, the Helix Fossil repeatedly in any and every situation, and fail at many more things constantly. But this is what creates the intricate storyline (summarized well in both of these links) of TPP, and whenever the crowd is somehow successful at accomplishing something, the satisfaction is made all the greater.


Why do you get to decide what is boring?

At least for myself, the issue isn't "They're doing something, and I want it to be something else, not fair!" It's that
1) They are a minority ruining it for the majority
2) They are enjoying messing up everyone else. It's only fun for them because we enjoy what we're doing, and they can mess with us. It's parallel to...I don't know, a kid breaking a toy of another kid, enjoying it just because the second kid can no longer play with it, and rationalizing it as "Well, we both wanted to have fun with it, so why couldn't I do this?"

I could ask the same of you. I can't believe you wrote a whole paragraph about Twitch Plays Pokemon. Take a step back and think about that.
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-24 22:01:28
February 24 2014 22:00 GMT
#20
On February 25 2014 03:18 MichaelDonovan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2014 09:37 soon.Cloak wrote:
On February 24 2014 08:19 MichaelDonovan wrote:
Oh stop whining. Boo hoo video game waaaaah. Jesus.

Bad day?
On February 24 2014 08:20 SnowFantasy wrote:
On February 24 2014 06:21 slowbacontron wrote:
On February 24 2014 01:43 Incognoto wrote:
Can someone at least explain why voting democracy is bad?

My post from earlier: + Show Spoiler +
You can find explanations for the preference of anarchy on the TPP subreddit. Basically, people enjoy it not only because it's more of a challenge, but also because the numerous failures and struggles of anarchy are what let such an involved and compelling storyline develop within TPP gameplay. Democracy is argued to pretty much make TPP a really slow "Let's Play".

And, as Sakray also said, it's very slow gameplay-wise, even if it's faster progress-wise.

SnowFantasy: Anarchy and Democracy both are really slow "Let's Plays". However, Democracy would, in general, be similar to any other playthrough of Pokemon Red out there, the only difference being that it's way slower. So, pretty boring. Anarchy is not a typical playthrough. Both by accident and through the efforts of trolls, TPP has managed to release several valuable pokemon (including their starter), buy 99 Pokedolls and a fire stone in attempting to buy a water stone, attempt to "use" the S.S. Ticket, Lift Key, the Helix Fossil repeatedly in any and every situation, and fail at many more things constantly. But this is what creates the intricate storyline (summarized well in both of these links) of TPP, and whenever the crowd is somehow successful at accomplishing something, the satisfaction is made all the greater.


Why do you get to decide what is boring?

At least for myself, the issue isn't "They're doing something, and I want it to be something else, not fair!" It's that
1) They are a minority ruining it for the majority
2) They are enjoying messing up everyone else. It's only fun for them because we enjoy what we're doing, and they can mess with us. It's parallel to...I don't know, a kid breaking a toy of another kid, enjoying it just because the second kid can no longer play with it, and rationalizing it as "Well, we both wanted to have fun with it, so why couldn't I do this?"

I could ask the same of you. I can't believe you wrote a whole paragraph about Twitch Plays Pokemon. Take a step back and think about that.

Different people care about different things. I assume you wouldn't blink an eye at TL writers writing paragraphs about StarCraft, yet many people would find this passion repulsive!
jjakji fan
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