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Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
January 16 2014 08:07 GMT
#21
It really depends on length of stay (and any possible exposure) and also at what period in her pregnancy that she was in while there. She could have been past the point where ears would have been developed. Plus if it was for a visit (meaning short term) in an area considered low risk for radiation it is highly highly unlikely that there is a link.

A lot deformations of that nature due to radiation are from long time exposure of the mother/father whose sex cells were damaged in someway, though not always. Still likely needs a larger amount of exposure then what she was subjected to though.
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nunez
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway4003 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-16 08:25:47
January 16 2014 08:25 GMT
#22
all you nonchalant, "move along, there's nothing to see" bastards will be the first one to be devoured.

[image loading]
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ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12468 Posts
January 16 2014 08:38 GMT
#23
On January 16 2014 17:25 nunez wrote:
all you nonchalant, "move along, there's nothing to see" bastards will be the first one to be devoured.

[image loading]

lol I am really looking forward to the new godzilla movie.
Also did you know the skin of godzilla is made to resemble the Keloid scars on the WW2 atomic bomb survivors
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
January 16 2014 08:41 GMT
#24
i wish they had gone on to make him look like a gorilla+whale
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Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
January 16 2014 08:49 GMT
#25
I went to Tokyo about a month after Fukushima, it was no issue. People are always afraid of things they don't understand, but honestly, it's not all that hard to check the effects of the leakage etc. It's bad, to be sure, but it's not even close to as dangerous as you make it seem.
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12468 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-16 08:59:48
January 16 2014 08:53 GMT
#26
On January 16 2014 17:41 lichter wrote:
i wish they had gone on to make him look like a gorilla+whale

you mean....like this?
[image loading]
Or
[image loading]


my vote with the first one, that can be a great sequel to the kingkong vs godzilla movie
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
January 16 2014 09:47 GMT
#27
Oh my good, do you really believe this? If you can really be convinced by such an anecdotal evidence (the missing ear thing), then you should immediately stop thinking for youself and hire experts in any given topic to make life decisions for you. Because this kind of argument can be found for anything. Just get a number cube, toss it many times, use the numbers as indices to a book you find closest to you, pick random words, arrange them into a vaguely meaningful sentence and you are certain to find a story somewhere that seemingly proves it. This kind of logic: "something terrible is happening, but they don't want to tell you about it" is like the real cancer (as oposed to that one you are supposedly gonana get if you visit Japan) for our society. It's exactly the reason why we keep burning fossiles to get energy, instead of saving them for the billion better uses they have - because "nucelar thingies are scary". Yes, there are accidents, yet they have killed or ijnured an absurdly tiny number of people when compared to what coal-bunring power plants did during their regular operations. But when tens of thousands people die slowly and silently, nobody cares, while when hundreds get irradiated, it's the worst thing in the world. It's exactly like planes vs. cars - noone cares about the thousands that die in cars every year, but any plane crash with a hundred passangers is a worldwide tragedy and people are much more afraid to fly than to drive, even though it's statistically moronic.
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nunez
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway4003 Posts
January 16 2014 09:48 GMT
#28
On January 16 2014 17:38 ETisME wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2014 17:25 nunez wrote:
all you nonchalant, "move along, there's nothing to see" bastards will be the first one to be devoured.

[image loading]

lol I am really looking forward to the new godzilla movie.
Also did you know the skin of godzilla is made to resemble the Keloid scars on the WW2 atomic bomb survivors

no, i did not know that! that is cool.
conspired against by a confederacy of dunces.
NeThZOR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa7387 Posts
January 16 2014 10:10 GMT
#29
There is no determinant link between Fukushima and those malformations that you listed. Of course, people should no doubt be aware of radiation and its many effects on health and all, but they shouldn't be made scared to go to Japan and visit one of the most culturally rich countries just because of it.
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BoggieMan
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
520 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-16 11:28:22
January 16 2014 11:16 GMT
#30
On January 16 2014 14:35 hp.Shell wrote:
This isn't a problem that is local to Japan, either, like Chernobyl was, because the Fukushima plant was on the ocean.

The radiation from Chernobyl reached Finland, Sweden, Germany, Denmark, Poland, Norway, Ukraine etc...
JacobShock
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Denmark2485 Posts
January 16 2014 12:34 GMT
#31
Who knows. People are incredibly arrogant when they start stating facts either way.
"Right on" - Morrow
lantz
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States762 Posts
January 16 2014 16:10 GMT
#32
I am actually upset about this. Yesterday, I ate at a sushi restaurant and today I'm feeling a little abnormal.

I will probably send a complaint to the restaurant and hope to get medical payout.

Thanks OP
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50245 Posts
January 16 2014 16:19 GMT
#33
its a cause for concern, but not so much that you shouldn't go to japan.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 16 2014 17:17 GMT
#34
Hmmm.

I'm pretty sure a more appropriate title would be "Wildly overblown concerns regarding Fukushima"
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ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12468 Posts
January 16 2014 17:54 GMT
#35
wow I guess I need to clear out a few things:

First I want to be clear, I am not against nuclear power.
(But I am not pro nuclear energy either)
I believe in technology but I don't believe in human operations.

Secondly, the purpose of this blog is to warn you guys that Japan situation can be a lot worse because of a complete lack of coverage recently.
The pacific ocean leak only went on a page 3 on newspaper and quickly dismissed on the next day.
If you travel there, please take care.
My suggestion is a NO, it's by no means I am going to stop you or give you death threats for going, but I would strongly suggest you not to go.
especially if you know someone who is pregnant, please tell her not to go. There is no rush into going there now.

Thirdly, Japanese exports, which Hong Kong does import a fair bit, might not even be monitored for radiation.
We rarely get any reports from Japan about the current situation.
these reports are released usually when things have gone bad.
The potential of a leakage into pacific ocean, is actually warned by officials a few months ago.
But what made it to the headline? the leak, not the warning.
The last time Hong Kong ever received any news about food might be contaminated was this:
http://enenews.com/govt-officials-all-japan-risk-food-water-contamination-fukushima-future-land-contaminated-250-kilometers-plant-video

The reason why I use the missing ear case is because it reminded me how little we know about the situation.

I might be entirely wrong, it might not be this bad.
But I just want to give you all a warning since I don't want any of you having problems.

Peace? T T
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-16 18:09:12
January 16 2014 18:00 GMT
#36
Dear TL,

Please avoid leaving your house. Sunlight includes harmful radiation that may cause cancer! Or birth defects! Also driving places is pretty risky, so you probably shouldn't do that either. Motor vehicle accidents are one of the leading causes of premature death.

I mean, "by no means I am going to stop you or give you death threats" (lol) but you should really avoid going outside or driving because "I don't want any of you having problems".

:/

Okay that probably comes across as unecessarily inflammatory and rude, but I'm making a point. Life is dangerous. The idea that the absolutely trivial amount of radiation that you might acquire by visiting japan is remotely relevant is incredibly frustrating because its simple scare tactics and has nothing to do with reality.
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Hryul
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Austria2609 Posts
January 16 2014 18:56 GMT
#37
On January 17 2014 02:54 ETisME wrote:
wow I guess I need to clear out a few things:

First I want to be clear, I am not against nuclear power.
(But I am not pro nuclear energy either)
I believe in technology but I don't believe in human operations.

Secondly, the purpose of this blog is to warn you guys that Japan situation can be a lot worse because of a complete lack of coverage recently.
The pacific ocean leak only went on a page 3 on newspaper and quickly dismissed on the next day.
If you travel there, please take care.
My suggestion is a NO, it's by no means I am going to stop you or give you death threats for going, but I would strongly suggest you not to go.
especially if you know someone who is pregnant, please tell her not to go. There is no rush into going there now.

Thirdly, Japanese exports, which Hong Kong does import a fair bit, might not even be monitored for radiation.
We rarely get any reports from Japan about the current situation.
these reports are released usually when things have gone bad.
The potential of a leakage into pacific ocean, is actually warned by officials a few months ago.
But what made it to the headline? the leak, not the warning.
The last time Hong Kong ever received any news about food might be contaminated was this:
http://enenews.com/govt-officials-all-japan-risk-food-water-contamination-fukushima-future-land-contaminated-250-kilometers-plant-video

The reason why I use the missing ear case is because it reminded me how little we know about the situation.

I might be entirely wrong, it might not be this bad.
But I just want to give you all a warning since I don't want any of you having problems.

Peace? T T

yet, most likely, nothing happens because the dose is so small. Even "tons of irradiated water" are not that big of a deal since the actual dose is so small. please do provide actual evidence before shouting fire. otherwise you are just spreading irrational fear.
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-16 19:10:09
January 16 2014 19:09 GMT
#38
sheesh, so many overdramatic posts. OP just wanted to bring attention to something that he thought was important to know. If people disagree with him(I did in my post earlier), that's fine but there's no need to be obnoxious when posting in his blog. I'm not referring to anyone specific, only those who did what I mentioned. OP, again, thanks for your genuine concern. I am hoping to visit Japan at some point in the future but will try to keep your blog in mind when I do

On January 17 2014 02:54 ETisME wrote:
I might be entirely wrong, it might not be this bad.
But I just want to give you all a warning since I don't want any of you having problems.

Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
hp.Shell
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2527 Posts
January 16 2014 19:49 GMT
#39
On January 17 2014 02:54 ETisME wrote:
I might be entirely wrong, it might not be this bad.
But I just want to give you all a warning since I don't want any of you having problems.

This is how I feel about it as well. It seems like it could be bad, and there are videos on youtube of people in the west part of the us with geiger counters showing higher levels. BUT, they could have the switch on the wrong setting, the ocean could in fact be so massive that it poses no real threat, etc.

Mostly, I'm a guy who is easily drawn into huge fear in this type of situation, when there are people talking about a huge catastrophe, I'm one who gets really afraid of the worst possibility. So part of me is saying it's just me being overly concerned.

I'm also finding it difficult to do actual worthwhile research on the subject. Most of the stuff I find is just people saying what they think someone else said about it. But I mean, when I said Chernobyl was localized (it wasn't of course) I said so as a result of my research. I haven't done any research on that before now, so I've been pretty ignorant. I learned that the government sent in the military to dump a bunch of concrete on it, the idea being to contain it inside a massive piece of earth.

So my research methods aren't the best either.

Anyway, I'll try to just stop worrying so much about it. I do have a life after all.
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Zocat
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2229 Posts
January 16 2014 21:08 GMT
#40
On January 16 2014 15:12 lichter wrote:
This chart is also pretty good at showing how ridiculous most of our 'radiation' concerns are

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Newer numbers:
http://ex-skf.blogspot.jp/2013/12/fukushima-i-nuke-plant-tepco-estimates.html
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