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ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12476 Posts
January 16 2014 04:33 GMT
#1
So me, like many others, have pretty much moved on from caring Fukushima.
Japan's recent strong economy and Yen is getting cheaper, it's no wonder why Hong Kong travelers are all leaving to visit Japan at a record high in years.

But hear me out on this:
Don't go to Japan.

It pains me to say this because it had always been a dream of mine to go to Japan, I loved anime since I was in primary school and my dad broke a promise and so even now I haven't been to Japan.
And since the incident is pretty much quiet down, I thought I might travel to Japan sometime with my friends.

A few days ago, my dad came home after his evening class.

He told me that of one horrible news:
His class mate's cousin traveled to Japan while she was pregnant a few months ago.
They went to Tokyo where most consider is safe.
Her baby is found out to be missing an ear when she gave birth.

So I got scared and found some photos online:
http://matome.naver.jp/odai/2130607801122809001

Strange sized plants, animals and insects mutants.
some are 300km away from the powerplant.

Finally I will leave you all with a video explaining how bad it is going to be:


Why are Japanese food still getting exported out? Are they really safe?
This is one huge concern of mine, I live relatively close to Japan afterall

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Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-16 04:49:55
January 16 2014 04:41 GMT
#2
Malformations are fairly common and that whale thing was found washed up in Mexico. Radiation levels in some parts of Japan are concerning and I would make sure to get informed before travel, but I want to remind everybody that radiation is made out to be this scary thing because it's misunderstood.


This might be an interesting video to watch. It's made by a physicist/university teacher. He's controversial and kind of a dick about many social issues but I think he knows them sciences. The danger is overhyped.

Cheers.
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
January 16 2014 04:43 GMT
#3
None of the things you posted can be directly linked to the Fukushima incident. Purely anecdotal evidence hardly means anything.

I've been to Japan thrice since the incident, albeit in the Kansai area, and I haven't developed superpowers yet
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
January 16 2014 04:48 GMT
#4
hmm I understand your concern but it's also possible that her child had a major malformation which still happen in ike 2% of the pop or something(if I recall correctly). I don't think you can point to her going to Japan and then say her child was missing an ear due to it. That's not really proof that it's due to radiation.

On January 16 2014 13:43 lichter wrote:
None of the things you posted can be directly linked to the Fukushima incident. Purely anecdotal evidence hardly means anything.

I've been to Japan thrice since the incident, albeit in the Kansai area, and I haven't developed superpowers yet

You became a writer for TL. That's a major power up
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NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-16 04:53:54
January 16 2014 04:49 GMT
#5
Personally I haven't eaten pacific fish anymore.
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ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
January 16 2014 04:57 GMT
#6
I've been seeing weird shit in Japan for years now, I don't think it has to do with Fukushima.
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ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12476 Posts
January 16 2014 05:00 GMT
#7
On January 16 2014 13:43 lichter wrote:
None of the things you posted can be directly linked to the Fukushima incident. Purely anecdotal evidence hardly means anything.

I've been to Japan thrice since the incident, albeit in the Kansai area, and I haven't developed superpowers yet

that's the problem, you should have developed superpowers now!
You might be a more lucky one, or maybe the short term exposure is not as powerful on you as an adult.
no, but all seriously, take care.
The problem of radiation is that once it enters your body, I don't think you can ever remove it.

I know it is hard to prove when it comes to long term effects as the Chernobyl has shown.
But I am really worried.
Japan is so inactive on these issues, the Japanese yoshinoya actually is using rice that is planted in Fukushima.
who can be sure their exports are being monitored properly D:
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
January 16 2014 05:08 GMT
#8
On January 16 2014 14:00 ETisME wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2014 13:43 lichter wrote:
None of the things you posted can be directly linked to the Fukushima incident. Purely anecdotal evidence hardly means anything.

I've been to Japan thrice since the incident, albeit in the Kansai area, and I haven't developed superpowers yet

that's the problem, you should have developed superpowers now!
You might be a more lucky one, or maybe the short term exposure is not as powerful on you as an adult.
no, but all seriously, take care.
The problem of radiation is that once it enters your body, I don't think you can ever remove it.

I know it is hard to prove when it comes to long term effects as the Chernobyl has shown.
But I am really worried.
Japan is so inactive on these issues, the Japanese yoshinoya actually is using rice that is planted in Fukushima.
who can be sure their exports are being monitored properly D:

I don't buy much Japanese products but you raise a good point. They should be more proactive in containing the radiation if that's the problem. I think there will be problems long term but who knows just how bad it would be.
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hp.Shell
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2527 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-16 14:30:23
January 16 2014 05:35 GMT
#9
It's scary that 300 tons of radioactive water are leaking into the Pacific per day. Did the plume that was supposed to reach California by 2014 get there yet?

This isn't a problem that is local to Japan, either, like Chernobyl was, because the Fukushima plant was on the ocean. Edit: I was mistaken, Chernobyl was not a local problem. Thank you for addressing this. The ocean is global, so it seems like a global catastrophe that is just getting worse the longer the problem goes unsolved.

What's to be done? I suppose we will all die of cancer from being irradiated?
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ktimekiller
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States690 Posts
January 16 2014 05:48 GMT
#10
I would imagine that the radiation had little to do with the child's deformation. You note that she was pregnant before going to Japan, and I cannot imagine that her stay was extended. It is more likely that it is by chance that such a thing happened.
Darkwhite
Profile Joined June 2007
Norway348 Posts
January 16 2014 05:52 GMT
#11
I first thought this was satire, but in case anybody in here are actually serious:

Future cancer deaths from accumulated radiation exposures in the population living near Fukushima are predicted to be elevated for certain types of cancers such as leukemia, solid cancers, thyroid cancer and breast cancer.

Estimated effective doses from the accident outside of Japan are considered to be below (or far below) the dose levels regarded as very small by the international radiological protection community.


If your father's cousin's hairdresser's stepsister actually had her child damaged by radiation from staying in Tokyo, it would be of extreme interest to the scientific community.
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
January 16 2014 06:12 GMT
#12
This chart is also pretty good at showing how ridiculous most of our 'radiation' concerns are

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koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
January 16 2014 06:37 GMT
#13
Are you seriously trying to insinuate that a short stay in Tokyo led to a malformation in child development? Are you joking? Have you even thought that if that was actually true there would be hundreds of thousands of deformed infants throughout Japan right now? This is so ignorant and sensational that it's just absurd.
GeckoXp
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Germany2016 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-16 19:37:25
January 16 2014 06:44 GMT
#14
On January 16 2014 14:35 hp.Shell wrote:


This isn't a problem that is local to Japan, either, like Chernobyl was


what

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I used to use memes, but then I took an arrow in the knee

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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
January 16 2014 06:51 GMT
#15
On January 16 2014 15:37 koreasilver wrote:
Are you seriously trying to insinuate that a short stay in Tokyo led to a malformation in child development? Are you joking? Have you even thought that if that was actually true there would be hundreds of thousands of deformed infants throughout Japan right now? This is so ignorant and sensational that it's just absurd.

cmon, he's just trying to raise awareness of the issue or at least remind us that it's not over yet although I do agree that there is no correlation between the two.
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ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12476 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-16 07:20:01
January 16 2014 07:11 GMT
#16
On January 16 2014 15:37 koreasilver wrote:
Are you seriously trying to insinuate that a short stay in Tokyo led to a malformation in child development? Are you joking? Have you even thought that if that was actually true there would be hundreds of thousands of deformed infants throughout Japan right now? This is so ignorant and sensational that it's just absurd.

http://www.fukuleaks.org/web/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Infant-mortality-in-Japan-after-Fukushima.pdf
there has been an increasing rate of infant mortality in Japan and considering how low their birth rate has been, this is pretty huge.

While I am not really entirely sure about that particular child case, I don't know how much it would take to make the infant in the womb deform, all I know is that she has been drinking water which is radio active, the food is likely to be radio active and everywhere has a stronger radiation than the nature rate.

Either way, I just want to give you all a warning because I actually live relatively close to a nuclear disaster and we don't know how much of the influence there is upon our lives for the next hundreds of years and we keep on eat the food produced there.
and it's scary when japan isn't releasing more accurate data and keep hiding the reading numbers.
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GeckoXp
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Germany2016 Posts
January 16 2014 07:21 GMT
#17
On January 16 2014 16:11 ETisME wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2014 15:37 koreasilver wrote:
Are you seriously trying to insinuate that a short stay in Tokyo led to a malformation in child development? Are you joking? Have you even thought that if that was actually true there would be hundreds of thousands of deformed infants throughout Japan right now? This is so ignorant and sensational that it's just absurd.

http://www.fukuleaks.org/web/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Infant-mortality-in-Japan-after-Fukushima.pdf
there has been an increasing rate of infant mortality in Japan and considering how low their birth rate has been, this is pretty huge.

While I am not really entirely sure about that particular child case, I don't know how much it would take to make the infant in the womb deform, all I know is that she has been drinking water who is radio active, the food is likely to be radio active and everywhere has a stronger radiation than the nature rate.

Either way, I just want to give you all a warning because I actually live relatively close to a nuclear disaster and we don't know how much of the influence there is upon our lives for the next hundreds of years and we keep on eat the food produced there.


I like how I almost died due to that report (Bavaria hell yeah). Not that I see a dramatic increase in deaths of infants though. The thing with "radiation statistics" is that you often find what you wanted to find without questioning. I remember few reports on cancer being linked to people living close to nuclear power stations. This turned out to be wrong, because they simply scanned better and more in that particular area than in the rest of the country, consequently allowing them to find more early-stage cancer. As long as I don't quite know where these numbers came from and what they include and what not, the report is questionable.
Darkwhite
Profile Joined June 2007
Norway348 Posts
January 16 2014 07:26 GMT
#18
On January 16 2014 16:11 ETisME wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2014 15:37 koreasilver wrote:
Are you seriously trying to insinuate that a short stay in Tokyo led to a malformation in child development? Are you joking? Have you even thought that if that was actually true there would be hundreds of thousands of deformed infants throughout Japan right now? This is so ignorant and sensational that it's just absurd.

http://www.fukuleaks.org/web/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Infant-mortality-in-Japan-after-Fukushima.pdf
there has been an increasing rate of infant mortality in Japan and considering how low their birth rate has been, this is pretty huge.

While I am not really entirely sure about that particular child case, I don't know how much it would take to make the infant in the womb deform, all I know is that she has been drinking water which is radio active, the food is likely to be radio active and everywhere has a stronger radiation than the nature rate.

Either way, I just want to give you all a warning because I actually live relatively close to a nuclear disaster and we don't know how much of the influence there is upon our lives for the next hundreds of years and we keep on eat the food produced there.
and it's scary when japan isn't releasing more accurate data and keep hiding the reading numbers.


The pdf shows absolutely no such things. It shows larger increases in monthly child mortality five times between 2006 and 20013, than what happened after the Fukushima incident, i.e. that the increase fits perfectly well with the pattern of random fluctuations and was not caused by a surge in radioactivity.
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packrat386
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States5077 Posts
January 16 2014 07:28 GMT
#19
Guys radiation is really scary. I know a guy who lived near a nuclear plant for 2 years and he DIED...

... granted he was 90, but hey, gotta blame the radiation right?
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hp.Shell
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2527 Posts
January 16 2014 07:56 GMT
#20
On January 16 2014 15:44 GeckoXp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2014 14:35 hp.Shell wrote:


This isn't a problem that is local to Japan, either, like Chernobyl was


what

You're right, Chernobyl wasn't a local incident either. My mistake.
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