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IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
November 18 2013 05:40 GMT
#41
What does the Bible say on this topic? Can you provide quotes with some hermeneutics?
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
hp.Shell
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2527 Posts
November 18 2013 06:40 GMT
#42
It just makes more sense to me to view spirituality in terms of reincarnation. Because even people who "don't believe in reincarnation" might believe in a god and also heaven and hell, it makes sense to logically dissect the situation from a reincarnation perspective. That is, if you don't believe you are reincarnated inside the universe, you may believe you reincarnate to either heaven or hell. If you don't believe in heaven, hell, or reincarnation, well, you probably don't care about the nature of "the afterlife."

In my case, it makes more sense to me that heaven and hell are both places within the physical universe. Whether they are on the same dimension we perceive is largely irrelevant.

I believe in a loving universe, and that heaven and hell are states of being accessible in this current lifetime, and all potential future and past lifetimes. Your actions determine where you go. This makes more sense to me that heaven is a temporary bliss, not a place in the clouds where everyone wears white and is peaceful, forever. Also it makes more sense that hell is a temporary agony, not a place below the earth where everyone burns or has to push a rock up a hill, forever.

Thus, you retain the power, instead of giving it over to an unloving, condemning (for good or ill) god. You may commune with "god" if you wish, at any time. You can call god faith, the universe, or whatever, as long as you understand it is always on your side and will never condemn you. It will also never allow you to sit on your ass forever and remain happy forever without acting in good interest.

If you are in bliss, you may enjoy such communion and use it to lengthen the duration of your bliss. If you are in agony or apathy, which can be the same thing, you may wish to commune and move from agony towards bliss. Eternal bliss and eternal agony are laughable concepts to me.

In this situation you are reincarnated every moment, in either bliss or agony, according to your past actions and perceptions. You may also be reincarnated at some time after death, in an inital state of either bliss or agony, according to your past actions and perceptions.

It also frees you from the idea that you must fear god and Satan. And fear is something I don't like.
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Bebop07
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States291 Posts
December 28 2013 16:02 GMT
#43
Hi everyone. I just want to provide anyone here interested in learning more about Jesus and what's going on in the world with some links. http://www.raptureforums.com/SecondComing/jesusiscomingsoon.cfm https://www.facebook.com/taylor.wick.71?fref=ts My facebook has video links to some good informative videos about Jesus and the world we live in as well as some more modern takes on what he'd be like if he were here in the flesh today. PM me for any additional questions you might have.
Kingsky
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Singapore298 Posts
December 29 2013 04:18 GMT
#44
haha congratulations!

now venture unto phase 2 of your life! Be a productive member of society and face this bullshit capitalistic world
Why do people hate the Colossus? Because the Colossus is like banksters from Wall Street: “too big to fail”. - TheDwF
Bebop07
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States291 Posts
November 10 2015 07:30 GMT
#45
https://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0001/0001_01.asp https://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0004/0004_01.asp http://www.amazon.com/Case-Christ-Journalists-Personal-Investigation/dp/0310339308/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1447140445&sr=1-1&keywords=the case for christ this is a book written by a journalist who set out to prove Jesus was a fraud and through investigation found out he truly is God. and of course the Holy Bible https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?version=KJV&search=Matthew 1
Sero
Profile Joined October 2010
United States692 Posts
November 10 2015 10:40 GMT
#46
lol
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 10 2015 13:11 GMT
#47
well, that was a surreal read.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Bebop07
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States291 Posts
November 22 2015 18:42 GMT
#48
John 3:16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. 18Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God's one and only Son. 19This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but people loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. Romans 10 If you declare with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 1 Corinthians 6 9Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men 10nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
Bebop07
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States291 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-14 03:52:18
January 14 2016 03:51 GMT
#49
101 scientific facts and foreknowledge from the Bible http://raptureforums.com/BibleProphecy/101science.cfm you might be amazed what is inside.
Awesomedrifter
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada62 Posts
January 20 2016 14:30 GMT
#50
On November 13 2013 14:17 Fumanchu wrote:
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On November 13 2013 12:19 IgnE wrote:
Unfortunately, bro, you aren't one of the saved. You might as well get your fun in now because you aren't destined for heaven.


This kind of comment isn't useful in any way possible. It's sole purpose is designed to rile people up and get a reaction. Which it succeeded, because here I am, telling you that you're a dick.


Its useful in that he's not gonna waste his time expecting an afterlife and enjoy his time on earth instead. Its a valid comment, it just so happens you get offended by it. The problem is you not the comment.

I wrote an article on this subject: http://awesomedrifter.com/2016/01/01/why-expectation-of-the-after-life-is-a-sinwhat-your-pastor-never-told-you/
http://awesomedrifter.com/
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-20 19:29:23
January 20 2016 17:21 GMT
#51
The bible is full of stuff that's clearly scientifically false and inaccurate, but OP is raising 101 "scientific facts" that in many cases could be figured out or at least somewhat guessed through means available at the time, but they're also WILD interpretations.

Let's look at the evidence for the first few proofs that the Bible has some science in it
1- "He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, And hangeth the earth upon nothing." space is not empty, Earth is not hung. There is no mention of anything that seems like gravity
2- "things which are seen were not made of things which do appear" is interpreted as a prediction that atoms cannot be seen by eye. Not convincing.
10- "The Bible states that God created life according to kinds " This assumes that science recognizes "kinds" (rather than species). So this is scientifically inaccurate. A bunch of these are just not science.
11- The Bible and history reveal that countless people have endangered or even sacrificed their lives for another. This reality is completely at odds with Darwin's theory of the survival of the fittest. Wat (this betrays a misunderstanding of evolution so profound, it boggles the mind - and furthermore it obviously goes completely against science rather than with it)

Also the bible says things like pi=3, the firmament is described as a solid roof over the Earth, the moon is said to emit light, stars are described as small objects floating in the sky, the sun rotates around the Earth... And many, many more.

"Prediction" of certain facts which were ultimately proven by science (in MUCH more detail) is not the Bible's best shot at showing its holy provenance.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
EsX_Raptor
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2802 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-20 22:53:29
January 20 2016 22:49 GMT
#52
I am glad that you have dealt with your depression. There are many tips and tricks to ameliorate or cure such things. However, I used to be Christian until I realized it is full of bullshit and is somewhat childish. Just because it helped you in some way does not make it true. Read up on the placebo effect. Just saying. What matters is the truth, and I am willing to share it if I have the opportunity.
EngrishTeacher
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Canada1109 Posts
January 21 2016 13:59 GMT
#53
I envy people who experience divine revelations, I wish it could happen to me.
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