EPTOn September 25 2013 23:25 MoltkeWarding wrote:
Nope, it's pretty simple. To begin with, MBTI deals with two questions: How do we perceive things? How do we judge things? These are broken down into the perceiving functions (sensing vs intuition) and the judging functions (thinking vs feeling) These are in turn modified by the questions: do we do these things via introversion or extroversion? MBTI assumes that an extroverted preference in one of the functions is compensated by an introverted preference in the opposing. For instance, an introverted thinker will be an extroverted feeler, introverted intuition is paired with extroverted sensing. Then the J vs P diachotomy basically modifies the pairings, hence the J in INTJ means that introversion is paired with the perceiving function, whereas the P in INTP means that introversion is paired with the judging function.
Then the breakdown of the four active functions: dominant, auxiliary, tertiary and inferior basically assigns the other in which we use these functions by preference/habit. This is not a mind-reading test. An introverted thinker like an INTP can behave like an extroverted thinker, if he requires it for school or a job (especially if he learns to imitate an extroverted thinker,) but this will not be the behaviour most natural to him. When left alone, in his basement, he would rather sit on the couch, stare off into space, and work on various mental problems like a zombie. Basically the dominant function asks: what are you doing in your zombie-state? The INTP with Ti will basically say: I think to myself, whereas an INFP with Fi will say: I am sorting through my feelings, or an ESFP with Se will say: I am looking at pretty stuff and flashy lights.
As we grow older and become better-rounded people, we increasingly develop our lesser functions. A more mature INTP will become better at things like empathy and showing how he feels, because of his inferior extroverted feeling, although an INTP will never have the same facility or naturalness with that as compared to a dominant Fe. Similarly, an Fe dominant/Ti inferior person like an ESFJ will learn better how to look at things via introspective logic, but they will only use it on a few occasions and with considerably less dexterity.
More likely is the scenario where the ESFJ will complain to the INTP about how unfair her friends are being, INTP will try to look for reasons as to why that might be, the ESFJ will be angry because they want emotional support and not a critical analysis, and starts complaining about the INTP, the INTP will be taken aback by this and retreat deeper into his Ti to look for the answer there, and what you get is two people talking past each other. Studying MBTI can help you with such problems
About the function order: Every one of the sixteen MBTI types has a list of cognitive functions:
INTJ - Ni Te Fi Se
INTP - Ti Ne Si Fe
INFJ - Ni Fe Ti Se
INFP - Fi Ne Si Te
ISTJ - Si Te Fi Ne
ISTP - Ti Se Ni Fe
ISFJ - Si Fe Ti Ne
ISFP - Fi Se Ni Te
ENTJ - Te Ni Se Fi
ENTP - Ne Ti Fe Si
ENFJ - Fe Ni Se Ti
ENFP - Ne Fi Te Si
ESTJ - Te Si Ne Fi
ESTP - Se Ti Fe Ni
ESFJ - Fe Si Ne Ti
ESFP - Se Fi Te Ni
Like I said, if you want to learn extroverted thinking, learn from those who are best at it: ENTJs and INTJs (I think the latter constitutes nearly half of this forum.) You can also try to look at ESTJs or ISTJs but ordinarily those guys will tend to think INTPs are sloppy, lazy, weird and anarchic, whereas INTPs will tend to think of them as loud, stupid bullies
However, Te is for an INTP what is considered a shadow function, and you try to develop them at your own risk. INTPs have like everyone two extroverted functions: Extroverted intuition, and extroverted feeling. Extroverted intuition is auxiliary, so at a certain point in life this is your main information-gathering function. Through this function, INTPs can become very experimental with life, constantly trying to learn new things, and occasionally even doing new and reckless things. However, the INTP will necessarily be subdued by the dominant Ti (the party pooper function) which basically analyses everything to death and stops you from trying out that new, interesting idea you've been wanting to try. If you want to learn how to put the experimental Ne before the cautious, analytical Ti, learn from ENTPs (Ne Ti Se Ni) who are a lot more outgoing and take a lot more risks.
When you let your Ne out, you may be alternatively seen as weird or witty. It generates plenty of humour potential, and is usually a hit with other intuitive types. The trouble with Ne is that it could get you into trouble, since it's pretty anarchic, and coupled with your low levels of empathy, can confuse and offend other people. This is why INTPs (IMO) have trouble making friends among anyone other than N-types (supposedly only 20-25% of the population.) The INTP's dominant social function is one where they love to break/ignore social conventions and it tempts them to say stuff just to get reactions out of other people. The difference between the INTP and ENTP is that the INTP will map out the consequences of his actions before he commits them, sometimes ad nauseum so that he never gets around to committing the action at all. The ENTP will do something first, and think about it later.
P.S. Ever been in a situation where someone has told you to stop thinking about something and just do it? As hard as that is for an INTP, it seems to be the thing you are striving for.
Nope, it's pretty simple. To begin with, MBTI deals with two questions: How do we perceive things? How do we judge things? These are broken down into the perceiving functions (sensing vs intuition) and the judging functions (thinking vs feeling) These are in turn modified by the questions: do we do these things via introversion or extroversion? MBTI assumes that an extroverted preference in one of the functions is compensated by an introverted preference in the opposing. For instance, an introverted thinker will be an extroverted feeler, introverted intuition is paired with extroverted sensing. Then the J vs P diachotomy basically modifies the pairings, hence the J in INTJ means that introversion is paired with the perceiving function, whereas the P in INTP means that introversion is paired with the judging function.
Then the breakdown of the four active functions: dominant, auxiliary, tertiary and inferior basically assigns the other in which we use these functions by preference/habit. This is not a mind-reading test. An introverted thinker like an INTP can behave like an extroverted thinker, if he requires it for school or a job (especially if he learns to imitate an extroverted thinker,) but this will not be the behaviour most natural to him. When left alone, in his basement, he would rather sit on the couch, stare off into space, and work on various mental problems like a zombie. Basically the dominant function asks: what are you doing in your zombie-state? The INTP with Ti will basically say: I think to myself, whereas an INFP with Fi will say: I am sorting through my feelings, or an ESFP with Se will say: I am looking at pretty stuff and flashy lights.
As we grow older and become better-rounded people, we increasingly develop our lesser functions. A more mature INTP will become better at things like empathy and showing how he feels, because of his inferior extroverted feeling, although an INTP will never have the same facility or naturalness with that as compared to a dominant Fe. Similarly, an Fe dominant/Ti inferior person like an ESFJ will learn better how to look at things via introspective logic, but they will only use it on a few occasions and with considerably less dexterity.
More likely is the scenario where the ESFJ will complain to the INTP about how unfair her friends are being, INTP will try to look for reasons as to why that might be, the ESFJ will be angry because they want emotional support and not a critical analysis, and starts complaining about the INTP, the INTP will be taken aback by this and retreat deeper into his Ti to look for the answer there, and what you get is two people talking past each other. Studying MBTI can help you with such problems
About the function order: Every one of the sixteen MBTI types has a list of cognitive functions:
INTJ - Ni Te Fi Se
INTP - Ti Ne Si Fe
INFJ - Ni Fe Ti Se
INFP - Fi Ne Si Te
ISTJ - Si Te Fi Ne
ISTP - Ti Se Ni Fe
ISFJ - Si Fe Ti Ne
ISFP - Fi Se Ni Te
ENTJ - Te Ni Se Fi
ENTP - Ne Ti Fe Si
ENFJ - Fe Ni Se Ti
ENFP - Ne Fi Te Si
ESTJ - Te Si Ne Fi
ESTP - Se Ti Fe Ni
ESFJ - Fe Si Ne Ti
ESFP - Se Fi Te Ni
Like I said, if you want to learn extroverted thinking, learn from those who are best at it: ENTJs and INTJs (I think the latter constitutes nearly half of this forum.) You can also try to look at ESTJs or ISTJs but ordinarily those guys will tend to think INTPs are sloppy, lazy, weird and anarchic, whereas INTPs will tend to think of them as loud, stupid bullies
However, Te is for an INTP what is considered a shadow function, and you try to develop them at your own risk. INTPs have like everyone two extroverted functions: Extroverted intuition, and extroverted feeling. Extroverted intuition is auxiliary, so at a certain point in life this is your main information-gathering function. Through this function, INTPs can become very experimental with life, constantly trying to learn new things, and occasionally even doing new and reckless things. However, the INTP will necessarily be subdued by the dominant Ti (the party pooper function) which basically analyses everything to death and stops you from trying out that new, interesting idea you've been wanting to try. If you want to learn how to put the experimental Ne before the cautious, analytical Ti, learn from ENTPs (Ne Ti Se Ni) who are a lot more outgoing and take a lot more risks.
When you let your Ne out, you may be alternatively seen as weird or witty. It generates plenty of humour potential, and is usually a hit with other intuitive types. The trouble with Ne is that it could get you into trouble, since it's pretty anarchic, and coupled with your low levels of empathy, can confuse and offend other people. This is why INTPs (IMO) have trouble making friends among anyone other than N-types (supposedly only 20-25% of the population.) The INTP's dominant social function is one where they love to break/ignore social conventions and it tempts them to say stuff just to get reactions out of other people. The difference between the INTP and ENTP is that the INTP will map out the consequences of his actions before he commits them, sometimes ad nauseum so that he never gets around to committing the action at all. The ENTP will do something first, and think about it later.
P.S. Ever been in a situation where someone has told you to stop thinking about something and just do it? As hard as that is for an INTP, it seems to be the thing you are striving for.
That makes very little sense to me to be honest. An INFP does thinking extraverted because her dominant function is introverted feeling, so the opposite compensates. good. An INFP does extraverted sensing because her intuition is also introverted? THe last letter makes no sense. That's where i'm confused.
